DARK SHADOWS FORUMS
General Discussions => Current Talk Archive => Current Talk '25 I => Current Talk '03 I => Topic started by: Philippe Cordier on March 12, 2003, 02:45:11 AM
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Am I the last person to realize that Petofi's nose is prosthetic?!? I just noticed that on a closeup as I was randomly inserting cassettes into my VCR, not sure which ones where which.
The prosthetic nose works much better in Thayer David's case, IMO, than the much-ballyhoo'd prothesis used by Nicole Kidman in "The Hours" (if I can go by the various clips I've seen of the movie). It obviously changes her appearance, but it certainly doesn't make Ms. Kidman look remotely like the cool, regal/Bohemian genius Virginia Woolf.
And then there's always Michael Jackson's ... If Vanity Fair is to be believed, the guy only has two nostrils and no nose ... :o
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Hmmm...I never noticed that it was a prosthetic nose. I'll have to go back and look.
And no discussion of prosthetic noses would be complete without a mention of the one worn by Christopher Pennock during his early days as John Yeager. CP revealed that it was the one worn by Jack Palance in the DCP of THE STRANGE CASE OF DR. JEKYLL AND MR. HYDE.
One size does NOT fit all!
Regards,
John
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Vlad,
While waiting on one of those insufferably long check-out lines at the local supermarket, I did what most other people do to kill time, read the tabloids!
Anyway, there happened to be an article on famous (and, not-so-famous) Hollywood actors/singers who had undergone the surgeon's knife in an attempt to improve the appearance of their proboscis(es?).
I don't think that I should mention any of the names of the before and after surgically-improved actors (with accompanying photographs). Suffice it to say, that the nose knows.
Bob the Bartender, a big fan of Lee Majors, Paula Abdul, Tom Jones, and that Lisa (?) Hartman actress from Knott's Landing (?).
PS People who should consider undergoing that particular cosmetic surgery: former Clevland Indian pitcher Bob Lemon, "Uncle Tonoose" from "the Danny Thomas Show," Max Klinger from "M*A*S*H," John Yeager of "Dark Shadows," the great Tony Bennett, the extremely talented Ms. Barbara Streisand and the bulbous Bob the Bartender!
RIP: Ernie "The Schnozz" Lombardi, star catcher of the New York Giants and one of the great schnozzolas of all time!
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Vlad,
While waiting on one of those insufferably long check-out lines at the local supermarket, I did what most other people do to kill time, read the tabloids!
Anyway, there happened to be an article on famous (and, not-so-famous) Hollywood actors/singers who had undergone the surgeon's knife in an attempt to improve the appearance of their proboscis(es?).
I don't think that I should mention any of the names of the before and after surgically-improved actors (with accompanying photographs). Suffice it to say, that the nose knows.
Bob the Bartender, a big fan of Lee Majors, Paula Abdul, Tom Jones, and that Lisa (?) Hartman actress from Knott's Landing (?).
PS People who should consider undergoing that particular cosmetic surgery: former Clevland Indian pitcher Bob Lemon, "Uncle Tonoose" from "the Danny Thomas Show," Max Klinger from "M*A*S*H," John Yeager of "Dark Shadows," the great Tony Bennett, the extremely talented Ms. Barbara Streisand and the bulbous Bob the Bartender!
RIP: Ernie "The Schnozz" Lombardi, star catcher of the New York Giants and one of the great schnozzolas of all time!
so funny Bob sometimes i pick the long line just to catch up om my "reading" ! Lisa was good on Knot's landing and is married to Clint Black
jennifer
can't forget Karl Malden!
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Jennifer Wrote:
can't forget Karl Malden!
And Jimmy Durante too!
Cassandra[/font]
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charles de gual. il est grand nez!
one of the few things i remember from french class lol!
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Sorry to disagree, but I don't think Thayer wore any facial prosthetics as Petofi.
It's all him, so far as I can tell. And what a wonderful job he did as the Count. Such delicious unpleasantness.
Wasn't there a discussion of his nose the last time we all went through 1897?
Gothick
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Jennifer,
Do you remember those great American Express Traveler's Check commercial parodies that Johnny Carson used to do on the "Tonight Show"?:
We see a guy and his wife sitting in a communal bath in Tokyo. Suddenly, the guy realizes that he has misplaced their non-American Express Traveler's Checks, saying: "Honey, what will we do?" At that moment, Johnny, wearing a trenchcoat, a Clark Kent-like fedora, and, most importantly, a Karl Malden-like prosthetic proboscis, emerges from the bath water, declaring: "American Express Traveler's Checks, don't leave home without them!!!"
Of course, Mr. Carson once wondered, if you happened to be talking with Karl Malden, the wonderful Academy Award-winning actor, and Mr. Malden just happened to sneeze, would it be considered rude NOT to lend Mr. Malden your one, clean handkerchief?
Bob the Bartender, who, for one, is extremely glad that Dan Curtis apparently decided to "lose" the phony schozz on John Yeager after only one episode.
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Sorry to disagree, but I don't think Thayer wore any facial prosthetics as Petofi.
It's all him, so far as I can tell.
I have to agree with Gothick here. As I watched today's shows back to back I got a good chance to see the Count's face close up and from what I can see his nose doesn't look fake at all.
Cassandra[/font]
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Sorry to disagree, but I don't think Thayer wore any facial prosthetics as Petofi.
Well now, hold on there Steve. What about that commercial?
(http://members.aol.com/clchalifoux/images/petofi-malden.jpg)
"The American Express Card....don't leave your century without it."
[gring]
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For noses I have to go with William Jefferson Clinton though I know it's only the second most famous part of his body.
Petofi's nose looks fake to me too. maybe it is somedays and not on others?
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You put a smile on my face with that screen grab! You are too much! I hope he buys a snazzier outfit when he gets to Orhbach's Dept Store. Do they even take American Express?
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LOL, Connie! Next time I head back east I am going to stop by your place for tea and crumpets, and image manipulation lessons. ;) :)
You know, several episodes back I could swear I saw the fake nose peeling up from TD's real nose. Let's face it, on DS it's not to be unexpected, ::) , so I just took it for granted that it indeed was a fake nose (or at least the bridge was fake). I even went so far as to convince myself by noticing that all but the bridge of his nose was sweaty, ??? . But then a few eps back I saw it peeling again, but realized (when he moved his head) that it was a shadow cast by the "Petofi's" coke-bottle glasses that made it appear so (to me). Of course now I'm all cornfused again! lol...
dom (fence-sitter extraordinaire)
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Wasn't there a discussion of his nose the last time we all went through 1897?
I don't remember that.
It appears, though, that I'm not the only one who has noticed something very odd about Thayer David's nose in his current role as Petofi.
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LOL, Connie! Next time I head back east I am going to stop by your place for tea and crumpets, and image manipulation lessons. ;) :)
Well, HELL YEAH! I'll put the kettle on.
Of course now I'm all confused again! lol...
Join the club. All this talk about Petofi's nose has me totally bewildered. Haven't noticed anything unusual about it at all. Now YOU'RE mentioning shadows and skin peeling off or something. LOL
Huh?? [hdscrt]
Gotta lay down and rest.
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Lord knows i tremble at the mere thought of disagreeing with Gothik but I too think its a fake nose. There were a few eps were you could see some of it not completly cemented down on the right side. . .or he got into a fight at that bar they all hung out at and they used a lot of make up to hide the damage???[thinking2]
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No idea about Petofi's, I never noticed it at all. I do find it odd that he continues to wear ONE glove, and NOT on the disfigured, hideous "hand of Petofi"!
And if we are going to talk about Karl Malden's buttcrack nose, I just have to comment that Owen Wilson has one just like it.
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No idea about Petofi's, I never noticed it at all. I do find it odd that he continues to wear ONE glove, and NOT on the disfigured, hideous "hand of Petofi"!
ROTFL!!! OMG, Im going to have to start watching Petofi alot more closely now!
Cassandra[/font]
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Lord knows i tremble at the mere thought of disagreeing with Gothik but I too think its a fake nose.
Well, Lord knows I tremble at the thought of disagreeing with Julia99 - LOL - but that nose is his. I looked closely at his last couple of scenes today. The one in the foyer with Angelique - absolutely normal looking. However, in the last scene with Quentin, when Petofi is looking down, the lighting in the drawing room right above him makes the nose look different - maybe a fake sort of look.
After he's done massaging Quentin....cozy, no?.....and is leaving the room, his nose looks totally normal again.
Jeez...all I'm doing now is staring at Petofi's nose!! :-
-CLC
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Am I the last person to realize that Petofi's nose is prosthetic?!?
To be honest I never noticed Thayer's nose in the role of Petofi. However, I've wondered how he could have seen anything at all with those glasses as thick as coke bottles! He must have been amazingly adept at learning his lines and where to be standing at all times without help from the tele-prompter.
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To be honest I never noticed Thayer's nose in the role of Petofi. However, I've wondered how he could have seen anything at all with those glasses as thick as coke bottles! He must have been amazingly adept at learning his lines and where to be standing at all times without help from the tele-prompter.
LOL! You're right there, and the last thing this poor guy needs is more baggage added to his face and head! He already has those coke bottle eye glasses, thick camel haired beard, and a lambs wool wig on his head. What else does he need? LOL!! Could you imagine the Directors telling him they're also going to add a fake nose to the picture? It's a wonder he didn't pass out. [6184]
Cassandra[/font]
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It's funny, my son home from college for a day or so came in while I was attempting to watch an episode. I love the reaction of someone who does not watch the show. He looks at the TV screen and very casually says "Nice wig, nice glasses, is that guy on crack." Than we have to go into the whole thing is the werido a good guy or a bad guy. Never got to look too closely at the nose, the wig thing was a big topic of conversation.
Birdie
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What does it say about how slap-happy WE all are, that we have 22 posts on a thread about whether or not Thayer David is wearing his own nose as Count Petofi? ???
rainey
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looked closely at his last couple of scenes today. The one in the foyer with Angelique - absolutely normal looking. However, in the last scene with Quentin, when Petofi is looking down, the lighting in the drawing room right above him makes the nose look different - maybe a fake sort of look.
After he's done massaging Quentin....cozy, no?.....and is leaving the room, his nose looks totally normal again.
It's obviously fake across the bridge of the nose. Of course it's not supposed to look "fake."
As you mentioned (but then contradict), you can see this best when his head is tilted downward. You could see fairly clearly that it was an "attachment" in the scene you mention, and that this was not an illusion due to lighting or a reflection. A couple days ago I even started laughing because it looked like his nose was made out of silly putty!
The shape of the nose across the bridge is completely unlike Thayer Davids' nose as the other characters he plays. Maybe this is the real one and the others fake?
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This thread is really fascinating.
I've watched some of these shows 4 or 5 times and never paid any attention whatsoever as to what was going on with Thayer's nose.
If I can tear my attention away from his amazing performance as the Count long enough to check, I'll be sure and have a look at the bridge of his nose next time I watch these shows.
Thanks for clueing me in,
Gothick
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NOZE???? What about the lips??? when he is sitting there in a stupor/trance today, he looked like a carp! [or Ryan Styles doing a fish!]
The noze is real, the lips are fake!
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NOZE???? What about the lips??? when he is sitting there in a stupor/trance today, he looked like a carp! [or Ryan Styles doing a fish!]
The noze is real, the lips are fake!
I've been noticing for a long time, too, that his lips look really weird, but can't see that anything could have been done to them -- short of collagen injections. ;D
In today's first scene you could actually see where the fake nose comes down the length and middle of the nose, and the square edges of the "piece" (or possibly adhesive strips) were apparent.
O.K., that's the last time I'll mention his nose, since everyone seems to think this aspect of costuming and characterization is trite ...
Thayer David's performance, as always, is sterling, but I have to say that when I first viewed 1897 (during the last SciFi run), I was so distracted by the whole wig/glasses/etc. getup that I had a difficult time even noticing his performance.
This viewing I've been able to appreciate Mr. David's acting in this role, but I personally prefer his other characterizations to this one, perhaps because the others are more realistic and believable people (Ben Stokes, Professor Stokes).
In trying not to be distracted so much by Petofi's wig this time, I've come up with a theory: the wig is not a product of the costume department -- it may actually be Petofi's accessory because he's bald!
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O.K., that's the last time I'll mention his nose, since everyone seems to think this aspect of costuming and characterization is trite ...
Thayer David's performance, as always, is sterling, but I have to say that when I first viewed 1897 (during the last SciFi run), I was so distracted by the whole wig/glasses/etc. getup that I had a difficult time even noticing his performance.
This viewing I've been able to appreciate Mr. David's acting in this role, but I personally prefer his other characterizations to this one, perhaps because the others are more realistic and believable people (Ben Stokes, Professor Stokes).
In trying not to be distracted so much by Petofi's wig this time, I've come up with a theory: the wig is not a product of the costume department -- it may actually be Petofi's accessory because he's bald!
I don't know, Vlad, but I'm kinda having fun with this. I catch myself staring at Petofi's nose instead of listening to the dialog. I agree the costume is distracting(too much costume, too much make-up, too much sweat, etc.) Petofi always looks like he needs a shower and some deodorant.
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Well, I happened to be home this morning and turned on the set, and the show was on, and the camera showed the top of Petofi's face and was right over his nose--and I'm sorry, but if there was any tape or putty there, *I* didn't see it.
And so it goes.
Gothick
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i have to admit i trynot to look at him too closely
He is just too ICKY! but he is a great actor! Poor Quentin too lose that face 8) for PETOFI"S i rather go back to being a wolf man!
jennifer
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So, Jennifer, don't you wish Tim would take his shirt off some time???
I just mourn that we don't get to see more of Don Briscoe's hot body during the remainder of his time on DS! There used to be some gorgeous snaps of him from the house of DS film on Michael Miozza's lovely website devoted to the films.
Gothick
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So, Jennifer, don't you wish Tim would take his shirt off some time???
Gothick
Well. .i don't know about Jennifer but I certainly miss the ripped werewolf shirts. . .so Hulk of Chris. . .
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Well, I happened to be home this morning and turned on the set, and the show was on, and the camera showed the top of Petofi's face and was right over his nose--and I'm sorry, but if there was any tape or putty there, *I* didn't see it.
Belated response: I didn't see anything that day either.
What are the explanations? Am I imagining things, like Edward thinks Kitty is? I feel a bit like Quentin trying to persuade everyone who he really is ... and everyone thinks he's mad. Maybe I am actually crazy! Or, maybe the nose doesn't turn out the same every day, and sometimes it's more noticeable than at other times.
Sorry for driving this subject into the ground, but I did want to respond because I agreed with your observation on that particular day, and since then haven't been sure if I'm detecting it.
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-Vlad -- "mad, bad, and dangerous to know" >:(
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So, Jennifer, don't you wish Tim would take his shirt off some time???
I just mourn that we don't get to see more of Don Briscoe's hot body during the remainder of his time on DS! There used to be some gorgeous snaps of him from the house of DS film on Michael Miozza's lovely website devoted to the films.
Gothick
heehee Steve you have to ask! makes me wish he did some of those Jim Palmer ads for briefs too! (though i prefer boxers!)
jennifer
finally got my computer fixed so been off a few days!
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I feel a bit like Quentin trying to persuade everyone who he really is ... and everyone thinks he's mad. Maybe I am actually crazy! Or, maybe the nose doesn't turn out the same every day, and sometimes it's more noticeable than at other times.
Hi Vlad...[wavey]
I vote for......YOU'RE CRAZY!! LOL (No, sorry, sorry, just kidding) [gring]
Actually, I have found this thread one of the most amusing in awhile! (and interesting). Don't know why.
A week or so ago I posted something in reference to your "bridge of his nose" thing, but either it didn't post or it got deleted. Anyway, I'll try again. Ya know what you said about the bridge of his nose having a different look?? Well, I was thinking maybe it was due to those glasses - which I bet, were very heavy - and they might have pushed down on his nose especially when he would tip his head down.
Does that sound like a plausible explanation?? LOL
-CLC
Always searching for the truth behind the illusion. [sure]
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-CLC Always searching for the truth behind the illusion. [sure]
You are in good company then with Scully and Mulder.
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This nose thing is pretty funny. I was watching "Journey to the Center of the Earth". Thayer David played Count Sacnusum(sp). I caught myself staring at the man's nose. He appears to have a very fleshy nose with some scar tissue(chicken pox). I hope I can break this nasal obsession.
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A week or so ago I posted something in reference to your "bridge of his nose" thing, but either it didn't post or it got deleted. Anyway, I'll try again.
The logs go back to before Vlad's post, and the post not showing up wasn't because of anything happening on the forum's or our end, sorry. :(
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You are in good company then with Scully and Mulder.
At the risk of sounding stupid, who are Scully and Mulder?
-CLC
Not as dumb as I look 8)
PS Midnite my dear, sheesh....you don't have to go to the trouble of looking through logs. (Appreciate it though) :)
I probably screwed something up.
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who are Scully and Mulder?
The two FBI agents from X-Files, Dana Scully and Fox Mulder. She was the "prove it to me" agent with the medical background and he was the "the truth is out there" alien hunter. True believers could probably send you thousands of pages going into greater detail about them, but that's about it in a nutshell. ;)
raineypark
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Midnite my dear, sheesh....you don't have to go to the trouble of looking through logs. (Appreciate it though) :)
It's no trouble. :)
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Haven't finished reading this thread yet, but i'm breaking down in hysterical giggles reading this so far, thanks for the diversion, need it these days. All you fans, writers, are the best, this place is my favorite escape, thanks, alot...