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Current Talk '24 I / Re: Loyalty to Liz
« on: January 07, 2022, 12:36:16 PM »
That’s an interesting idea Ms. Pena came up with for a possible Adam/Elizabeth Stoddard relationship. I tell you, though, it’s just as well that Barnabas convinced Dr. Eric Lang NOT to cut-off Jeff Clark’s handsome noggin and attach it to the top of Adam’s massive frame. It would have been confusing enough for poor Vicky to meet some new guy, who looked exactly like her apparently a.w.o.l. and somewhat self-absorbed boyfriend, but who also had the massive physique of Chicago Bears linebacker, Dick Butkus. But then to have Mrs. Stoddard becoming involved in this off-the-wall ménage a trois would have been way too much. Oy vey!  [elf-with-gifts]

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: Loyalty to Liz
« on: January 06, 2022, 11:10:13 PM »
There really weren’t many eligible bachelors/widowers for Elizabeth to date. There were Judge Crathorne (a widower?) and Ezra Braithwaite (way too old). There was also the Eagle Hill Cemetery Caretaker (far too spaced-out and probably without both oars in the water). Of course, there might be an attraction between Elizabeth and the learned Professor T. Elliot Stokes. Although, nowhere near in Elizabeth’s tax bracket, the estimable Professor Stokes was certainly Elizabeth’s intellectual equal.

So, if Elliot did not mind being a kept man, sort of like William Holden in “Sunset Boulevard,” I think Elizabeth  and Professor Stokes would be very compatible together.  [4009] [4336]

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: Loyalty to Liz
« on: January 03, 2022, 08:41:24 PM »
Yes, Dom, I agree with you that Mrs. Stoddard was likely very generous and fair with her employees, thus the great loyalty on the part of the Collins Cannery employees.

Apparently, Elizabeth inherited her generosity and thoughtfulness from her paternal grandfather, Edward. Thankfully, Elizabeth did not inherit any traits from her grandaunt, Judith Collins-Trask, a miserly and frustrated woman, who even made the parsimonious Sarah Collins seem like the late philanthropist Joan Kroc by comparison.

As much as Mrs. Stoddard was respected and even beloved by her employees, I wonder how the Bill Malloys, the Ezra Aherns, the Joe Haskells and the rest thought of her younger brother and new company COO, Roger Collins? I mean, the haughty and apparently Ivy League-educated Roger hardly came off as a “regular guy,” who knew how (or even cared) to relate to the blue collar employees working underneath him.

While most of the Collins Cannery employees probably wore L.L. Bean jeans and flannel shirts to work, Roger probably only bought his fine-tailored suits from the Brooks Brothers store in either Portland or Boston. (No off of the rack suits from Brewster’s Department Store for a man with such “discriminating” tastes as Roger Collins!)

And, no doubt, the practical, down-to-earth residents of Collinsport likely thought that the forty-something Roger Collins looked absolutely ridiculous, tooling around town in a Mustang with racing stripes. Heck, Collins Cannery fishing fleet manager Bill Malloy was still driving around in his 1958 Chevrolet Impala, which was losing its original paint job, due to the cold and corrosive Maine sea air.

Yes, Roger probably longed for the weekend, when he could drive to Bar Harbor and hobnob with the really “important” people and escape the plebeians of Collinsport, Maine.  [8_2_87]

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MB,

I remember reading an interview in which Ms. Moltke expressed great admiration for the late Thayer David as both an actor and a gentleman.

Apparently, during the first year episodes, Ms. Moltke and Mr. David spent a lot of time together, while filming those episodes where Vicky is tied up with the crazed Matthew Morgan in that secret room behind the bookshelf in the drawing room of the Old House.

Ms. Moltke remembered that Mr. David was quite the intellectual, whose extensive knowledge of many subjects was very impressive. She enjoyed discussing so many topics with the Harvard University-educated Mr. David.

It’s funny, but when I saw 1797 DS episodes for the first time, and Vicky meets Ben Stokes for the first time in the Old House, she screams out in great terror, “Matthew Morgan!” Well, I sat there, wondering, “Who’s Matthew Morgan?” as I had never seen the “pre-Barnabas” episodes before.

As I recall, poor, innocent Ben quickly got into trouble with the imperious Joshua Collins for having had the chutzpah to even speak with a young woman in the Old House. Of course, the lovely and saintly Vicky feels terrible for getting Ben into trouble with the Ebenezer Scrooge of Collinsport.

Although, later the noble and selfless Ben befriends Vicky and he and Barnabas do all they can to help and protect Vicky from the loathsome Rev. Trask.

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Requiem aeternam, Mrs. O’Brien-Rice.

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This is going to be great, seeing many of the DS actors performing in Charles Dickens’ “A Christmas Carol.” We never really saw the DS actors perform in any Christmas-oriented episodes on the original series. I always wanted them to have the Collinwood drawing room to be decorated for Christmas with an eight-foot-tall Maine tree. The colorful Christmas stockings would be hanging by the majestic fireplace. Of course, the drawing room piano would be resplendent with a woodlands berry centerpiece from L.L. Bean of Freeport, Maine. And, speaking of the piano, wouldn’t it be great to hear Louis Edmonds (as the unfailingly convivial Roger Collins) singing Christmas songs with his favorite niece, Carolyn “Kitten” Stoddard, accompanying Uncle Roger on the piano?

Regarding the upcoming DS production of “A Christmas Carol,” I noticed that Patrick has mentioned that Jerry Lacy will be portraying Jacob Marley with David Selby taking on the role of the querulous and parsimonious Ebenezer Scrooge. Since Mrs. Dilber, Scrooge’s faithful and long-suffering chairwoman, is an important character, because she deals with both the initially miserly Scrooge and the joyously reformed Scrooge, I suppose KLS will assume the role. Incidentally, in the 1951 film, “Scrooge,” considered to be the definitive film version of the Dickens classic, Mrs. Dilber is performed by British actress Kathleen Harrison. The late, great Patrick MacNee, who portrayed young Jacob Marley in the same film, said that Ms. Harrison was one of England’s great character actresses. So, Ms. Scott has large shoes to fill.

As to some of the other key roles, I could see James Storm as the kindly Bob Cratchit with Marie Wallace as Mrs. Cratchit. David Henesy, being the youngest cast member (at age 65!) will portray Tiny Tim. (Boy, does THAT make me feel old!)

Perhaps Alexandra Isles will portray Fan “Fanny” Scrooge, Ebenezer’s beloved sister, who dies much too young
in childbirth? Lara Parker might portray Alice, Ebenezer’s gentle and selfless wife, whom the cold and curmudgeonly Scrooge divorces and, later, lives to deeply regret it.

Mitchel Ryan would be terrific as the Ghost of Christmas Past. And if we could see some the deceased DS actors portray some Dickens characters, wouldn’t the distinguished Thayer David be absolutely superb as the larger-than-life of Christmas Present? The Ghost of Christmas Future doesn’t have much to do in the story. Maybe the ubiquitous Richie Halpern could assume that role?

Finally, wouldn’t it be great to see Dark Shadows’ first romantic couple, Joe Haskell and Carolyn Stoddard, a/k/a Joel Crothers and Nancy Barrett, portraying, respectively, Fred, Ebenezer’s estranged nephew, and Fred’s lovely wife?

I understand that Joel Crothers was an expert on Charles Dickens’ novels from Mr. Crothers’ days as an undergraduate student at Harvard University.

Oh, yeah, I could also see Denise Nickerson, Kathy Cody and Michael Maitland as Tiny Tim’s siblings. I look forward to seeing the DS cast in this classic Christmas tale.


Bob


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Current Talk '24 I / Re: Reminded of DS Twice in One Week
« on: December 01, 2021, 05:07:31 PM »
I personally think Ms. Stevens achieved her cinematic zenith in the 1970s crime thriller, “Scorchy.” Although, I also enjoyed her performance in “Susan Slade,” along with Troy Donahue.

Incidentally, the film “Susan Slade” is said to have inspired legendary singer/composer Natalie Merchant to write her socially-conscious song, “Eat For Two,” while Ms. Merchant was a member of the great alternative rock band, the 10,000 Maniacs.

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Yeah, and even no mention of Vampira from the “Citizen Kane” of bad films, and Ed Woods’ opus, “Plan 9 from Outer Space” in the magazine!

And they had the chutzpah to charge ten bucks for the thing.

I tell you, the Collins Family Curse struck once again when this piece of schlock was quickly pulled from supermarkets all across America.  [hall2_shocked]

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Calendar Events / Announcements '24 I / Vampires: The Supermarket Magazine
« on: November 12, 2021, 11:38:37 PM »
Hey, gang,

So, I’m standing at the supermarket, waiting in a humongous line, which will take seemingly forever to check-out, and I spot a magazine next to the “TV-Guide” and “The Enquirer” (a personal favorite), with the intriguing title, “Vampires.” I immediately grab a copy from the magazine rack and start to read it.

The magazine is one of those periodicals you frequently see in supermarkets, covering such varied and eclectic subjects as popular US presidents, The Rolling Stones, “The Sopranos,” and UFOs, etc. This “Vampires” issue begins with the origins of the vampire legend, dating back to the years of 1428 to 1477, of the reign of Romanian leader, Vlad III, also “affectionately” known as “Vlad the Impaler.” Vlad was a real “charmer,” combining all of the warmth and conviviality of Count Petofi, Judah Zachery and Ralphie Ciffarreto of “The Sopranos.” As the Romanian ruler, ‘ol Vlad used to routinely behead his enemies (a foreshadowing of Judah Zachery?) and place their severed heads on wooden spikes to discourage other possible enemy invaders from entering Romania. In addition, when emissaries from Turkey declined to remove their turbans in a show of respect to the Romanian ruler, the impish Vlad had their turbans nailed to the tops of their heads to remind them of their lack of courtesy.

The magazine cites Irish writer Bram Stoker, author of the seminal vampire novel, “Dracula,” which created great interest in the old Romanian and Hungarian legends, inspired by Vlad and the rumors of the undead.

Of course, the legendary cinematic vampires are discussed, including the great Bela Lugosi, the distinguished Sir Christopher Lee, and the most improbable vampire, Tom Cruise, the pride of Glen Ridge, New Jersey.

The magazine then lists several of the popular vampire television series; “True Blood,” “The Vampire Diaries,” “Forever Knight,” and “Buffy, The Vampire Slayer,” among others are covered.  But, as I neared the end of this magazine, I noticed to my great surprise and annoyance there was no mention of the great and ground-braking “Dark Shadows.” Oh yeah, they had a photograph of actor Johnny Depp, in his Barnabas Collins get-up, and a brief mention that the 2012 DS film was “based on the 1960s ABC television series,” but that was it. No mention of Jonathan Frid, the originator of the unique “reluctant vampire,” no acknowledgement of DS creator
Dan Curtis or of the other actors and writers from the world’s greatest vampire series. Talk about an infamita!

I was glad to see that that “comprehensive” look into vampirism lasted less than a week on the supermarket magazine stands, to be replaced by a magazine giving us all the inside story of the fascinating lives of the curiously self-effacing Kardashian family.


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I can’t argue with you there! [VampInCasket]

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Starr Manning makes Michael, the Leviathan early teen, seem like Timmy on “Lassie,” by comparison!  [ReallyScary]

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: The House By The Sea a la Ocean Grove, NJ
« on: October 21, 2021, 11:29:45 PM »
One thing that bothered me after the Collins family fled, en masse, from Collinwood to the Old House by the evil ghost, Quentin Collins, is that no one ever considered taking up residence at any of the other houses on the estate.

I mean, after a couple of days of being all crampe
Hey, gang,

One of my favorite aspects of the Adam storyline on DS was warlock Nicholas Blair’s cool home, the House by the Sea, located on the rocky shores of Collinsport, Maine. I wonder if Mrs. Stoddard would have ever rented the house to Cassandra’s brother, if she knew that a Collins property would house a warlock, a female vampire, a man-made monster and his presumptive mate, not to mention a “resurrected” male vampire? A lot of weird stuff took place in that house, including a Black Mass, celebrating Nicholas and Maggie Evans’ unholy “union.”

Anyway, I was driving along the beautiful New Jersey shoreline the other day, and as I drove through Ocean Grove, just below historic Asbury Park, I spotted a Victorian-style hotel on the beach, called, I kid you not, “The House By The Sea.” Wow, I almost expected to see Nicholas and Angelique, chilling out on the veranda!

Ocean Grove is a Christian seaside resort, which was founded in 1869. The architecture of the homes there resembles the 19th century architecture you see in New England, like in Collinsport, Maine, for example. A block away from the New Jersey “House By The Sea,” is Ocean Grove’s magnificent, “The Great Auditorium,” site of Sunday religious services and seaside concerts by such notables as Tony Bennett, Johnny Mathis, the late Davy Jones and Flo & Eddie, a/k/a Mark Volman and Howard Kaylan of The Turtles. No doubt, David Collins and Hallie Stokes would have enjoyed hearing “Daydream Believer” and “Happy Together” performed on the Jersey shore.

Of course, literally just up the block from “The House By The Sea” in Ocean Grove is Asbury Park’s famous Breeze Way, site of the dramatic scene in “The Sopranos,” where in a dream sequence (like so many landmark dream sequences in “Dark Shadows”) Tony Soprano realizes that Sal Bonpensiero is the traitor/rat and where Tony symbolically shoots Paulie “Walnuts” Gualtieri. I bet that Barnabas and Willie would invariably show up at Collinwood on Sunday night, just as Elizabeth, Roger, Carolyn, Maggie, Dr. Hoffman and Quentin were all assembled in the study to watch the latest episode of “The Sopranos” on HBO.

So, I guess there is an uncanny synchronicity between “Dark Shadows,” “The Sopranos,” Nicholas Blair, Tony Soprano and the seemingly ubiquitous House By The Sea.

d together in that cold, dreary house with no electricity, no central heat and, most importantly, no running water (read: hot showers and working toilet bowls), you’d think the patrician Roger would finally say to his sister, “Screw this, I’m off to the House by the Sea with David and whomever else wants to take a hot shower and not have to use a bed pan at three in the morning!”

Heck, Carolyn, Maggie and little Amy could have also gone to the carriage house (where newlyweds Carolyn











and Jeb Hawkes once briefly stayed) or even the shack at Findley’s Cove, which compared to the Old House, would seem like the Essex Hotel on Central Park South.

And, while I think of it, did Dr. Hoffman and Willie Loomis think they could keep the precocious and perpetually curious Amy Jennings from sneaking into the Old House basement and finding Barnabas, sitting there in an I-Ching induced trance, looking like he was in rigor mortis? Yeah, I’d like to see Julia and Willie try and explain Barnabas’s present “condition” to Mrs. Stoddard and the rest of the family. Lotsa luck with that one!


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Gerard,

I think I’d offer you a night of free drinks at the Blue Whale. And not just that Boston yuppie beer, Samuel Adams, but real American beer, like Coors Beer or even Rheingold Beer, a brewskie, I enjoyed imbibing repeatedly at the old Shea Stadium in Flushing Queens, watching my beloved New York Mets battle the Dodgers and the Pirates, among other NL teams through the years.

Uncle Roger,

A film that reminds me somewhat of “The Bad Seed,” is the British black comedy, “Keeping Mum.” The film stars Dame Maggie Smith as a grandmotherly serial killer, Kristin Scott Thomas, Rowan “Mr. Bean” Atkinson and, incredibly, the late, great Patrick Swayze.

And, I still think that young David Collins comes in as a distant, but still deplorable, second to Rhoda Penmark as a demon child. After all, the little stinker did everything he could to bump off his cold and distant father. And the brat never did get punished for sabotaging his father’s Mustang. At least, when David and Amy Jennings placed that wire on the Collinwood foyer stairway, causing Roger-the Dodger to take a spill on the stairs, David and Amy had had the Leviathan “Il Malocchio” (or Evil Eye) placed on them.

PS Sorry I got Rhida’s first name wrong (as Rebecca) on this thread’s title. I was bummed out, watching the Giants get slaughtered by the Rams as I was typing this thread on Sunday.

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Current Talk '24 I / Who’s More Evil: David Collins or Rebecca Penmark?
« on: October 17, 2021, 07:49:57 PM »
Okay, many of of you are probably asking, “Who the heck is Rhoda Penmark?” Rhoda Penmark was the nasty child, who murdered two people in the 1956 psychological thriller, “The Bad Seed.” Actress Patty McCormack portrayed Rhoda Penmark, for which she was nominated for Best Supporting Actress. She also portrayed Adrianna Laserva’s angst-ridden mother on “The Sopranos.”

In the film, Rhoda drowns one of her grade school classmates and literally burns to death, the janitor in her parents’ apartment building. (She’s also suspected of murdering an elderly neighbor, when her family lived in Wichita, Kansas.)

Young David Collins tried unsuccessfully to kill his father, Roger, by sabotaging the bleeder valve break system on Roger’s snazzy Mustang. Fortunately, Roger survived the 100 mile crash, actually a 100 foot crash, on the steep road leading down from Collinwood. David also imprisoned Vicky Winters, his long-suffering governess, in a locked off room of Collinwood, where Vicky was warned by the water-logged ghost of Collins Cannery executive Bill Malloy to leave Collinwood before she is murdered.

David also committed some other evil acts, but that was when he was first possessed by the malevolent ghost of Quentin Collins, and later by the Leviathan leader/slimy monster, Jeb Hawkes.

I have to go with Rhoda Penmark, a sociopathic child, with absolutely no sense of right and wrong. In fact, Rhoda should have teamed up with either Alexander and/or Michael, the Leviathan children, who would finally mature into the adult Jeb Hawkes. Imagine if new Collins family governess  Maggie Evans had to contend with BOTH Michael and Rhoda Penmark? Oy vey!!!


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Scatological humor and Dark Shadows,

Abigail Collins and the Rev. Gregory Trask would be absolutely appalled!  [ScaredGhost] [Were_Vamp]