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Idle Thoughts--Freudian Slips 7/22-7/25
Nancy:
Was never much of a soap watcher so I don't have much to compare all this to . . however, as we have said, there was much more they could have done. I understand the concern of keeping the "draw" out there and visible but I think they still could have done that AND created other sidestories. They had other very compelling characters. They would not have even gone for Quentin in such a big way but for the fact Frid told them they needed to bring on another leading man to carry the load! That character got development!
Not just milk, but development.;)
Nancy
--- Quote ---Absolutely, Nancy.....and it's not as though there wasn't room in the half hour for it. No soap opera in history ever "moved along" more slowly than this one.
If they had done away with the opening "repeat" of the last scene of the day before, it would have freed up minutes-a-day they could have used to develope sub-plots.
If they had picked up the pace of the dialogue, instead of assuming that the audience required remediation, they could have added even more time and space for complimentary storylines.
But they didn't.
Rainey
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Dr. Eric Lang:
--- Quote ---Just wondering. Why does Willie wear his windbreaker indoors? Drafts?
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Of course! It's always drafty in the Old House! Barnabas never did install central heating you know.
--- Quote ---No one seemed surprised when Elizabeth shot up from behind the arm chair which seems kind of odd. I mean, she's not a child. If I saw a 50+ year old matron popping up from behind the Chesterfield, I think that would rate a jaw drop or two.
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LOL! Well, maybe she used to do that all the time. Maybe that's where David learned in from.
--- Quote ---Aside from that, let's consider:
1. She has no discernible form of income.
2. She's engaged to be married to a working stiff and presumably any kind of money would be welcome.
3. Sam doesn't strike me as the kind of guy to leave behind a healthy little nest egg.
4. Bills must be coming due (mortgage, utilities, food, groceries, the tab at the Blue Whale).
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It's conceivable the mortgage is paid, and she does still have that waitressing job at the Collinsport Inn, we just don't see her there anymore. I can see her hesitation in taking Mr. Blair's too-generous offer, but NOT unless she's suspicious of his motives, which she blindly doesn't seem to be. I'm also still at a loss to explain why she isn't suspicious of the man in general, considering what Vicki told her about Cassandra being Angelique.
abbeymarch:
Luciaphil,
Re "fashion notes". (I've lost the hang [no fashion pun intended] of thequote box.)
You must remember that most of these women were also models. The wardrobe came from Orbach's. Orbach's was polyester knock-off heaven. The clothes were made for real people, not people (women, mostly) who had to resort to any means necessary to keep themselves ultra-slim to keep their jobs.
It was also still very near the time of bra burning & I like to think that Carolyn (who's real name just flew out of my head) was making her own public statement. Or maybe she was just really late that day.
Just a few thoughts from someone who lived, ate, breathed. & slept fashion in those days.
Which was one of the reasons I loved watching DS!
abbeymarch
Luciaphile:
--- Quote ---Luciaphil,
Re "fashion notes". (I've lost the hang [no fashion pun intended] of thequote box.)
You must remember that most of these women were also models. The wardrobe came from Orbach's. Orbach's was polyester knock-off heaven. The clothes were made for real people, not people (women, mostly) who had to resort to any means necessary to keep themselves ultra-slim to keep their jobs.
It was also still very near the time of bra burning & I like to think that Carolyn (who's real name just flew out of my head) was making her own public statement. Or maybe she was just really late that day.
Just a few thoughts from someone who lived, ate, breathed. & slept fashion in those days.
Which was one of the reasons I loved watching DS!
abbeymarch
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abbeymarch--if you ever met me (or you can ask Nancy, she has), you would know that I'm not exactly the sort who buys her clothes at Saks. I hate to iron. I don't wear skirts or dresses much and my figure is closer to Mrs. J's than Maggie's. My clothes, for that matter, tend toward the dull, conservative, and the plain--I make sure they are cleaned, not too wrinkled, and that they cover the requisite amount of skin.
I am, in short, one of the last people in the world who should be playing "Mr. Blackwell." ;)
That being said, DS was a television show and IMO, fair game for fashion critiquing. They had a wardrobe person (or persons--I think the only one who shows up on the screen is Mostoller there--the poor man's Irene) and presumably they were there picking the wheat from the chaff, doing alterations, making sure that the clothes worked for the characters.
I have to say that in most cases, I think Mostoller did a good job. Some of the actresses, of course, like Bennett looked great in nearly anything they gave her to wear and in almost any color. Other actresses were less fortunate. Since it's Mostoller there picking out these things, you would think she would have been making sure that the outfits they got made the actors look good as well as plausible. Like the taupe dress. Now Carolyn's supposed to be wealthy, so that the dress looked cheap (and often, you really couldn't tell) was strike 1. The color made her look like one of those fishes that live in entirely underground. Strike 2. It was just a bad cut. Strike 3.
I hate the dress.
As for her going braless--well, that actually works, I guess. Carolyn does trend to be a little daring in her attire. I could see that working. I just thought that this was the wrong outfit to make the statement in. 8)
Luciaphil,
Fashion Policeperson
Philippe Cordier:
I agree. :D
That is, I think your observations are very sharp, Luciaphil -- as are everyone's followup comments.
I have missed some episodes lately and think I've watched a few others out of order, and was even considering not bothering to tape/watch for a week or so, especially when I saw yesterday's scene where Angelique was writhing on the "operating" table in the makeshift lab. It made me feel sorry for Lara Parker. If that's the type of material she was associated with, it's no wonder her career didn't skyrocket. (However, we know that she typically had much better material on DS.)
So, just as I was considering not bothering to watch the show for a while (especially after reading someone's comment elsewhere that it doesn't get any better in the next week), I discovered one day's eps I hadn't viewed -- the one where Adam is playing chess, discusses Freud with Carolyn, where Elizabeth calls her lawyers and dictates her new will, etc. And it actually was quite good. So I'm hoping the eps won't be completely about this stupid life force experiment.
BTW, I agree, Jeff Clark's character has gotten to be extremely irritating. I've been wishing he'd be killed off completely by vampire bites.
I'm rather confused now with my viewing in that I remember Julia having been bitten by the Don Briscoe character (and yes, those crossed-eyes completely spoiled the scene), but I'm unclear now if she's under a vampire's power or if I've missed something. Are both she and Jeff Clark currently under vampiric influence?
About Freud: I admit I was quite disappointed, too, when I learned that Professor Stokes had told Adam that every man of the 20th century should read Freud. (Now, Jung -- that would have been more interesting for his character, I think.)
It does possibly reinforce my belief, though, that Stokes is a psychologist who branched off into parapsychology.
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