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Happy Birthday Magnus,
      As a Trask would you prefer a present, a punishment or that I simply ask the Almighty to redeem you soul?
Have some cake anyway!

 [banana] [occasion13] [occasion15] [occasion16]

All the best, Michael

Calendar Events / Announcements '05 I / OT - Home Grown Vampire
« on: June 23, 2005, 04:37:02 PM »
I found the following article online which covers an alleged "real" vampire right here in my Richmond Va area. While I can definitely state many of the events covered in the article are documented, most especially the Shockoe train wreck and the location of Hollywood cemetery (named for the trees, not any other place, as it was founded mid 19th Century), and others are real, I think other parts of the story are, well, you decide.     [blackbat]    [batang]  [blackbat]

Anyone visiting Richmond should not miss Hollywood Cemetery, its wonderfully gothic, great mausoleums (one or two with Tiffany stained glass windows), a few notables including two US presidents (three if you count ol'Jeff Davis) and the walking tour mentions the plethora of local legends and ghosts.   [ghosty]  [Ghost00] [ghosty]


Julia: "Miss Winters, there is no medical cure for a dream curse. Just put the lime in the coconut and drink it all up, then call me in the morning." [band] [banana]

Current Talk '05 I / Re: vampire fashion
« on: June 21, 2005, 09:25:41 PM »
It would be interesting to know whether her act was inspired by the Charles Addams cartoons.  Both certainly owe something to the star of Dracula's Daughter.

I have several Charles Addams books with collections of his cartoons. They indeed predate the Vampira TV show, and as the cartoons were very well known and popular in the 1940s and 1950s, they would have been very accessible to Maila Nurmi aka Vampira. "Drawn and Quartered" was out as early as 1942. I have read that Addams was influenced by the Universal horror films of the 1930s and '40s. The original version of "Lurch" was based on Boris Karloff's Morgan in "The Old Dark House" of 1932, noting especially that early drawing sport the heavy beard of that character while later drawing look more like the TV character, still somewhat karloff-like. The woman like most of the Addams characters was not named in the comic strip, but since Addams stated "Lurch" was inspired by Karloff, I don't think its too mich as stretch to think "the woman" aka Morticia was probably inspired by characters like "Draculas Daughter."

    I agree with most of the posters here that the "Goth" look as we now see it as its own subculture came out of Punk rock of the '70s and early '80s. I would note that most of the early Gothic bands, now probably in their '40s and '50s in some cases grew up contemporary with the "monster boom" of the late '50s and 1960s; Famous Monsters,   [frankie]Aurora models, Hammer films and TV shows like The Munsters, Addams Family, Bewitched and Dark Shadows. While Goth developed its present form in England moreso than America, the Batcave gang as previously noted, some American bands were setting an important precedent. Let's not disavow for example Alice Cooper with his theatrics and stage presence, songs about Dwight Frye and guillotines, or even the 1950's when Screamin' Jay Hawkins came on stage on a coffin singing about zombies and voodoo. (For that matter, Screamin' Lord Sutch of the British wave of the mid '60s with his Jekyll & Hyde era attire and songs is another forerunner.) By the time we get to Punk, you have the Cramps forming in the mid-70s, and their music, while more '50s rockabilly and '60s garage/psycedelic sound, made its impact with their look and attitude. (I still love the Cramps, even with their need to repeat themselves.) Never let the Goth snobs say Siouxsie and the Banshees, squarely in the middle of the brit-punk revolution, didn't create a cornerstone for Goth. I think another major event were the films "The Hunger" which feature cornerstone band# 2, Bauhaus, and the midnight cult of "The Rocky Horror Picture Show."  This came at a time when the cult of the Anne Rice novels was forming. From the convergence of all these things grows Goth. The dyed black hair, black clothes, black nail polish, lots of fishnet (probaby influenced heavily by Tim Curry's Dr. Frankenfurter),  the dark clubs with cobwebs and smoke. The film "the Crow" was another indication Goth had arrived in its own.  [2Bats] Think of him as being one cooler than Batman as he's actually dead.
     I think if I had been a little younger, I would have been more into this scene myself. I was more around for the Ramones, Blondie, Black Flag and the Cramps, who did influence me to wear a lot of black shirts and pants in those halcyon days.  [blackbat]
      Now as for all these young people who have formed the next wave of Goth, who are more influnced by the bands who came later, I can say while some are great fun, the Richmond band "Siddal" who are very synthy and moody are highly reccomended, some are just too literal in their attempt to create a vampyre world. I can only listen to so many droning songs about "exquiste corpses". I can say however, if I were a real vampyre, I'm not sure if I would want to hang out with these people who attempt to play at being undead 24/7 or find it convenient to hide among them. I would say, that unlike a young Goth I saw on TV, I would never be caught dead or undead running around with a feathery black mullet haircut. I might wear an 18th century suit once in a while, but not for everyday wear. I do still have a love of visiting cemetaries so I have some empathy for these folk. I think I've just grown out of the need to wear a t-shirt or other look to advertise my favorite bank day in, day out. I think Morrissey once said something like "Those who's are unsatisfied with their art tend to try to make themselves into their art."  And while I can kind of deal with pepole who might share a small amout of blood drinking in a committed, if kinky relationship, I don't think its a good idea at all to do that rather randomly. Just too dangerous nowadays. Let's say I might enjoy doing an actual seance but not any attempts to conjure up any real demons.  [firedevil]


Caption This! - 1796_3 / Re: Episode #0665
« on: June 16, 2005, 09:27:59 PM »
Millicent: But Countess, I'm sure Nathan is really an officer from Baltimore. He has an autographed book from Sir John Waters, a bumper sticker on his carriage that says "Eat Bertha's Mussells", and he always call cook and I "Hon!"

Caption This! - The Werewolf-Quentin's Ghost / Re: Episode #0669
« on: June 16, 2005, 09:23:20 PM »
Maggie: I don't care if you are the greater Maine pocket pool champion, Harry, I'm not going to see any Swedish movies at the drive-in with you!

I tend to find Tim Burton's work always interesting, if not always successful. I think you all have hit on the answer that his work with Johnny Depp is better than his work without him. For example, "Ed Wood" is a much better film than "Mars Attacks." I never saw the original in the theatre, I had the flu the week it played in my hometime as a kid. I finally caught it years later and I've grwon to really love it. I like Gene Wilder's very edgy performance, he's quite a radical and seemingly dangerous character for a kid's film, especially as he is essentially the adult hero/role model. Generally, only the villains are allowed to be such a lose cannon in kid's films. I was aware Deniece was in the film as a kid, which made me feel all the wrse for missing it at the time. I love the DVD release with the documentary and you must get the "Widescreen" to truly enjoy it, that version was scrace for a while. I do plan on seeing the new one. Is Johnny chaneling Louise Brooks in that black bob this time?

By the way, is it me, or is there some kinda resemblence of the old "orange" Ooompa Loompas and Gerard Styles? They defintely have the same hair stylist.  ::)


"I gotta golden ticket..."

Julia, thinking:All the wicked, wicked things I've done, and it comes to this..
(Speaking) Yes, yes, yes Agent Allison, I once sold watered down penicillan to Harry Lime.

Barnabas: David, be careful, those may look like lincoln logs in the dark, but they aren't. Willie has a cat now.

Caption This! - 1796_3 / Re: Episode #0664
« on: June 15, 2005, 06:17:51 PM »
Angelique: Now that I've sealed your mouth with that "Superglue" I brought back from the 20th century, the piece of poison apple will never be removed. You will sleep...forever!

Caption This! - house of Dark Shadows / Re: House of Dark Shadows
« on: June 15, 2005, 06:00:42 PM »
Barnabas's reaction to Willie's solo of "You are the wind beneath my wings" during the wedding rehearsal.

Caption This! - 1796_3 / Re: Episode #0664
« on: June 14, 2005, 09:23:55 PM »
Peter: No, really, I'm Ryan Seacrest, and you, Kelly Clarkson, and the first 19th century American Idol!

Julia: (singing) "Three coins in a fountain..." and none of them takes me to Bangor, much less Rome!

Caption This! - The Werewolf-Quentin's Ghost / Re: Episode #0677
« on: June 14, 2005, 09:17:56 PM »
Barnabas: Quick Chris, we have to hide Dr. Shepard's father's body. Now! before Locke sees us.

Chris: This "Lost" show we're on now has more twists than Mrs. Johnson's pretzels.


Thanks for conveying this information. Sorry to hear more sad news.¬† :'( I remember watching the series in my middle school days. I still have the View Master reels (of this & DS too). I haven't seen the show in years, but I have very fond memories. Ed Bishop had a great presence on the show. To be honest, I liked it better than Space:1999 as it moved along at a  faster pace. Plus, the purple wigs were pretty attractive on the ladies.