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The first part of arashi's post is a detail from the character descriptions in the published article that provided our first look at the official cast photo in this topic, so it's not a spoiler.  The second part is her speculation.

I know I'm not the only one who chose not to read those descriptions in the article, but just looked at the photo.  And it seemed as if people were putting that information in tags on previous pages.  Anyway, it was a spoiler for me.  I don't mean to sound confrontational, but it was. 

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I'm wondering if even...

If this is a spoiler from released information, please tag it.

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Current Talk '11 II / Re: DS Character Drawings
« on: September 24, 2011, 05:57:03 AM »
Those are great!  I love the style of his drawings, and how he's reimagined the characters.  Seeing Nicholas was a huge plus.  

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Wow!  My first thought on the photo was shock at the three blond girls in the background.  I'm still not completely sure which one is Bella Heathcote, if she is actually in the photograph, apparently she looks extremely similar to Carolyn (perhaps an intentional plot point?)  To me, they also look the same age (i.e. both 14), when you'd think that wouldn't be the case.  Maybe one of them is the ghost of Sara?  Anyway, it's clear who Angelique is, and I think Eva Green looks great.  I expected Johnny Lee Miller to look younger, and I'm unsure if that's just what he looks like now or if he was aged to play Roger?  I think I prefer the 2004 Willie out of all the ones we've seen since the original series.  Barnabas looks great.  A lot to take in, but I don't dislike it.  

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OK, that makes sense; Chloe wouldn't be there anyway.  I just can't clearly recognize these actresses yet either.  I think Barnabas probably only looks like this because he's trying to walk outside in the sunlight.

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Interesting pictures!  Are you sure its Bella Heathcote, though?  The label (viewable when I move my mouse over) on the pictures says they're of Johnny Depp and Chloe Moretz.  I wonder if this scene will be played as humurous. 

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Personally, I don't think KLS's off-hand statement (which as has been said, is geared to put her in a good light) is a reliable or official confirmation that Bella Heathcote plays a character called Josette in this film.  Since we do know that the majority of the film takes place in the 1970's, clearly her main credited role is Victoria.

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It was interesting to see the modern Seaview interior and exterior--primarily the foyer and tower room.  But the program as a whole I found boring and insufficient to draw my full attention--they walk around, hear and feel things that the audience doesn't for an entire hour.  The scariest part for me was the asbestos in the basement, which made me also wonder if there might also be toxic mold spores, lead paint, or other realistic horror for this couple to deal with in trying to restore the mansion. 

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Current Talk '11 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0044
« on: September 05, 2011, 05:37:14 AM »
Elizabeth learns that James Blair, brother to Cassandra and Nicholas is in league with Burke to take over the Collins business.  I have to wonder, would she have happily married Ned if she hadn't had some secret anxiety lingering in the background?  It is too bad that there isn't even an actor to come on the show and play the character--Ned could have shown up instead of the banker, after all.

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I think KLS's parts in the 1897 storyline were pretty minor, she probably never qualified as a 'leading lady,' apart from 1795.  Her other parts were primarily kidnap victims and easy prey for more prominent female characters like 1970PT Angelique and 1968's Cassandra.  

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Current Talk '11 II / Re: The Netflix $6 Increase
« on: July 16, 2011, 12:03:20 AM »
It must be noted that we don't have all have the same netflix; if you live in Florida or Maine and I live in California or Hawaii, then we are accessing a different warehouse when we order dvds and won't have the same index.  On my netflix, it shows about half of the Dark Shadows Collection DVDs are in "save" mode--i.e. not currently available for renting (and yes, in the past I did receive some of the famous cracked or unplayable DS discs).  Personally, I agree with Gothic; my rural broadband just doesn't do streaming well, so I'd muchly prefer to have something on a disc or directly on my desktop.  Netflix focussing purely on streaming doesn't do anything for me; but there is a whole lot of DVD's, (not only Dark Shadows) on my 'saved' list that I wish they would make available.

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I find the plot outline in the press release to be fascinating.  I like that they are going to streamline the story and give it a context fitting for the characters they are going to use.  That will at least be much better than the rush-job 1795 arc in the 1991 series, where characters were included just to stand around and remind us of the original (i.e. Millicent.)  It may also be that we have no look-alikes or 'reincarnations' except for the two characters who do cross time--Angelique and Barnabas.   I also find it interesting that the 1972 date is almost like they are picking up shortly after the original series was cancelled. 

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It's very possible that the age of the character Carolyn could be more along the lines of 16-17; it depends on what they want to do with the actress, so we shouldn't assume her real age is a clue to the movie.

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Copyright (and that's what it is, copyright), in western societies, has always been seen as something that was granted by the government for a limited period of time, in order to provide benefits to both the creator and the public. Copyright allows the creator to realize gains from the creation. The limitation on the duration of copyright has two purposes: one, it allows the public eventually to be able to freely incorporate previously-created material into new works; second, it is incentive for the creator to create new works and not just laze around (and even his descendants to laze around!) forever because of the good fortune to have created one fabulously successful work.

I agree with you; it is the right to copy, and it is called intellectual property for a reason; because it isn't a physical house or acreage; it exists rather all over the place in perhaps millions of widely distributed copies.  Most of Shakespeare's plays would never have been written if endless copyright laws were in place during his time; as most of his works were derivative, being drawn from old literature that he brought into the medium of theatre.   The copyright for Oscar Wilde's work ran out in recent years, and because of that there have been a lot of new movies made from his plays, even lesser known ones never filmed before; I think that is a great thing.  Wilde's works, like Shakespeare, Shelley, and the Bronte's are historical cultural resources, not belonging to any one person.  And that is good, because people are free to interact with them, translate them, and reimagine them as they wish.   

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You're right MB, it is gone and I will try not to get too heated in my response.  

borgosi,  my statement was about whether descendants hundreds of years later should still be raking in vast amounts of wealth from their ancestors literary work by controlling the copyright, and no, I don't think they should.  I beleive in such things entering the public domain.   I also have always known bootleg releases of films still in theatres to be of terribly low quality, not a replacement for the real thing. 

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