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Oh, and I love the idea that Michael Stroka was playing Harry Johnson!  I'm already imagining the scenes now. He would have been marvelous in that role.

G.

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Love the idea of sharing some of those Scrapbook memories photos here, MB.

My absolute favorite candid shot from the entire hoDS production was published in that book. I don't know if she ever included it elsewhere. It was taken at the funeral and involves three actresses... for now, that's all I will say...

G.

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That's a wonderful production publicity still of Nancy in her about-to-be-Undead makeup in front of Lyndhurst.  Great find!

Nice to see shots of Michael Stroka in those captures.  I usually missed him altogether when I used to watch this on my VHS tape.

G.

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Thanks again, MB, for the excerpt from the Dan Ross novelization.  Interesting to read.  Willie calling his master "Mr. Barnabas" suddenly makes me wonder if he had been briefly possessed by the spirit of Ben Stokes.

I think the scene plays much more effectively in Josette's room. The final camera close-up on the music box is a very forceful statement about the fate of anyone Barnabas chooses to love.

G.

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Current Talk '17 I / Notes on DS fandom history
« on: June 10, 2017, 02:11:55 PM »
Anyone interested in the history of DS fandom might want to read this short entry on the Fanlore site.  There are a couple of peculiar typographical errors, but some interesting info is given. What is provided is only a very brief outline of the history as it is known to me (and I'm far from an authority on it since I was not at all connected to the fandom before around 1995).

https://fanlore.org/wiki/Dark_Shadows

There's a link to another page that provides a listing of DS fanzines--I haven't checked that out yet.

Best, G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '17 I / Re: Lost my Brother/ot😥
« on: June 09, 2017, 04:26:15 PM »
I am so very sorry for your loss.  May his spirit be at peace.

G.

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That's a great discovery, MB!

I seem to recall that there was a week of shooting at Lockwood after all the work at Lyndhurst had been done, so all of this came at the end of the work on the film, which is interesting to know.

G.

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Is that room at Beechwood, or Lockwood Mathews?

it's so long since I last saw the movie, I did not even recall the wedding dress being there or Barnabas having dialogue where he spoke of it.

G.

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Testing. 1, 2, 3... / Re: ** BIG CHANGES COMING FOR THE NEW YEAR **
« on: May 25, 2017, 10:28:24 PM »
Goodness, it's HOT in here!

Thanks, MB!

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Phyllis Wickes was Sarah's governess in the "original" timeline of 1795.  Phyllis and Vicki switched places when that bizarre seance occurred.  In the history book, it said that Phyllis was tried and convicted for practicing witchcraft at Collinwood, so presumably she was the one Angelique originally framed to divert suspicion from herself.

Sarah was in the episode of Vicki's arrival in 1795.  I thought Sarah was much nicer alive than she had been as a ghost.

G.

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That article is a great illustration of why I hate all these lists.  I have no doubt that the list reflects the author's taste very accurately.  A lot of those films, though, you couldn't pay me to sit through.

I do recommend Peeping Tom, although I'd call it a psychological suspense film, not horror. The lead actor, who was German, gave an amazing performance.  The movie destroyed the career of the director because it was so completely pilloried in the British press of the period.

There are some more imaginative lists out there if you google British Folk Horror films.  They still miss out on some excellent films because they are LISTS--the "list" is the antithesis of the whole concept and activity of cultivating aesthetic taste. But I must descend the soap box before I am booted off this forum for good.

cheers, G.

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Interesting sequence--thanks, MB! 

I actually found myself wondering looking at the photo of Davis with Joan and Thayer if DC would have changed the 1795 story to have Davis, as an altruistic version of Nathan Forbes, in a more heroic role. A thought stimulated by the fact to which I stupidly never paid attention that Jeff is wearing Nathan's uniform here, or so it would seem.  KLS's diary does say that DC wanted Davis to become KLS's new love interest after the wrap-up of the PT 1970 story and she did not react at all well to that news.  And who can blame her.  The original sequel to hoDS was reportedly planned to be set in the 18th century, at least in part.  Undoubtedly a version of the Angelique curse narrative would have been the plot focus.

Another thought I had reading through what you shared is that this time around, one may presume that Maggie did realize that Barnabas's interest in her was romantic.  It's been so long since I last saw the film, and my short term memory is so patchy now, that I can't recall whether the subsequent scenes of them having dinner and spending time together while Jeff is out of town include cues that she acknowledges and accepts that Barnabas is courting her.  My memory, for what it is worth, is that the scenes have Maggie's reactions ambiguous.  Is she simply touched that somebody as worldly as Barnabas is interested in her, or does she realize that he has romantic feelings for her. And, in turn, does she reciprocate?

Given DC's determination to give priority to the standard horror narrative that kicks in fairly quickly, it may all be left undefined and uncertain. Because, as you say, DC would be thinking, "nobody's gonna waste time wondering what emotional stuff is going on here before we get to THE FANGING and THE BLOOD."

cheers, G.

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It would be interesting to estimate just how long the costume party sequence (or "bal masque" sequence as they used to say in the old horror books) would have lasted, had all the excised bits been kept.  Around ten minutes?  Fifteen?  It may not be possible to come up with a very precise estimate.

Fascinating to see all these bits together in one coherent narrative.  Thanks again, MB!

G.

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