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Hi Raineypark,

Love your post about the anachronisms in the current storyline btw--I foresee that as turning into a very long section.  The Countess' clothing is about 40 years out of date (maybe more, but those dresses were on their way OUT by 1770 for sure--why didn't they put her in a powdered wig?  Maybe the powder gave Grayson a sneezing fit!)  So there's lots to write about on that topic.

I've been a very erratic Festival attendee myself.  The main reason I keep going is because of my friends among the fans.  I do think there is some backbiting or cliquishness as Joe's friend mentioned, but I think if you don't hang out with certain groups of people who mainly keep to themselves, you'd never notice it.  I think this kind of thing was more noticeable back in the 1980s when an event that drew 200 people was big news.  They routinely get 1500 on Saturday alone in NYC and last year's not-previously-announced mail-registration only for Sat. was presumably to circumvent fire code violations due to the crowds who always show up for the New York Festivals.  I think the fandom has really grown now that the show has become a mainstay (and wisely so) on the Sci Fi Channel.  It clearly has an appeal that transcends time!  And DS fandom has a magic that transcends petty fannish squabbling.

So, I hope you encourage your friend to join you at a Festival.  I bet you'll have a great time.  

As for improving the Festivals--the actors I really loved on the show are all dead.  They used to do more skits (I will never forget a marvelous one act thing Marie Wallace did one year) but if the skits are non-DS the fans often don't have much interest.  I was so upset about people coming in and going out and talking during a wonderful performance David Selby did in NYC a few years ago.     There used to be a video room set up where they would screen episodes and rare videos of other projects the actors had appeared in.  Perhaps these features will appear again at future festivals.  I've been meaning for years to approach the Festival committee about doing a tribute to Grayson Hall featuring clips from my collection, but I haven't ever managed to find the time to write up a proposal.  It would be lovely to have one for Thayer David, as well, though presumably fan interest would be smaller in that.  He is one of my top favorite DS thespians ... I do appreciate it that a few others here have written appreciatively about his work, as well.  Jonathan Frid commented once at a Festival about how sweet Thayer was and how he was like everyone's favorite Uncle on set.

Gawd, that was a never ending post!

Cheers, Steve

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: How Hairlarious!
« on: March 20, 2002, 07:40:19 PM »
Roger Davis says on one of the MPI tapes (I think it might be "Behind the Scenes of Dark Shadows") that he was basically Dan Curtis' pet actor.  Or something like that.  I am always surprised he was so honest about that.  It's very "Norma Desmond" (as in Sunset Boulevard) the way he says that, too--he's wearing this pair of designer sunglasses and removes them slowly, dramatically, and starts talking about his special status on the DS premises.

I actually kind of enjoyed RD's performance as Dirk Wilkins.  I won't say anything to spoil it, but I think that character was designed to let him do something different and he was better at that than the leading man roles Curtis kept handing him.  He did do well in the role of Jeff in hoDS, I thought, but again that role did not challenge him the way some of his DS roles did.  

I will confess here and now that "Peter and Vicki" and their seemingly endless scenes together are a big reason why 1795 never makes my list of my top favorite DS storylines.  There are whole episodes devoted to Peter and Vicki and their trials and tribulations, and in my not-so-humble opinion, they drag painfully.  

Steve

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Thanks for posting this info, Bridget.  I remember that book from my childhood.  Marvelous illos by Maurice Sendak the miraculous one.

Great project for Mr. Selby!  Perhaps a screening can be arranged at the next DS "Festival."

Best,

Steve

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: Just what IS Nathan?
« on: March 14, 2002, 05:01:16 PM »
He's a hot, fierce man-stud who exists solely to stoke the fantasies of certain men who have been known to love watching Dark Shadows since childhood.

that's what Nathan Forbes is.

xo  Steve

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: More about DS on DVD
« on: March 11, 2002, 07:26:57 PM »
So they're starting with Barnabas' introduction?  I hope they start with the first episode of the week Barnabas was released from his coffin; otherwise they'll be stuck with an odd number of episodes at some point when/if they go back and release the pre-Barnabas weeks on DVD.

And let's hope they don't elect to go with the EDITED version of these weeks released on the first 8 or 9 original MPI videos ... you'll miss several of Buzz's scenes if they do that!

Glad I'm not a DVD junkie ... still happy with my DS videos ... let's hope MPI releases some DETAILED, ACCURATE info on this set so folks who pre-order don't wind up with a product that is not up to standard!

Steve

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: I gotta stand up for Angelique
« on: March 11, 2002, 07:14:46 PM »
Have to agree with whomever said that Melanie & Kendrick are the true love match of PT1841. I just love watching those scenes between John Karlen and Nancy Barrett (although I love watching Karlen's scenes with Grayson Hall even more--those two had some fabulous moments in an otherwise rather confused and lacklustre storyline!).  

As for dear Angelique, I just love watching her at this point.  Even though Cassandra is my favorite Lara Parker character on the show (and I really consider Cassandra to be separate from Angelique--"WHY are you calling me by that name???" bat bat, quiver quiver, pout pout), the ORIGINAL 1795 Angelique is really more interesting as a character than the latter variations (though again, I love watching her waltz in and out of the endless 1897 storyline--and who doesn't love her little turn as Mrs Sky Rumson--gods, I'd love to have been a fly on the wall when Mrs. Sky presided over the Little Windward Island Ladies Auxiliary Shriners League luncheon!).  

At this point in the scheme of things, Ange doesn't just crave Barn's body and soul, she also lusts for the privileges that she sees coming her way when she assumes her rightful place as Mrs. Barnabas Collins.  If she ever said that she would have been content to have been Barnabas' mistress while Josette was his wife, she was deluding both herself and anyone within listening range.  She wants the whole kit and caboodle--the dresses, the carriages, the silver, the fawning admiration of those less favored by society.  And, at this point, she also wants to see Josette humiliated and groveling.  

I love to watch her, but I'd hardly say I admire her.

Best,  Steve

Doesn't this new Board RULE?

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: Just Whose Head Is It Anyway?
« on: February 27, 2002, 03:34:33 PM »
Originally posted by Steve on February 27, 2002 at 09:34:33:
In Reply to: Just Whose Head Is It Anyway? posted by Bob the Bartender on February 27, 2002 at 07:55:23:

Bob, your comments are always a highlight of my visits to this board. What fun!

I personally think the skull belonged to Amanda Harris' Great Aunt Hortense. There was clearly a thing for ratty hairpieces that ran in that family. Plus the jawline shows that Hortense liked to chatter almost as much as Amanda.

Altogether now, one two three: "Qu-wu-wu-woo-woo-wooo-woooooooooENNNNNNTINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!"

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: Dark Shadows Memories Video and DVD
« on: February 27, 2002, 02:38:46 PM »
Originally posted by Steve on February 27, 2002 at 08:38:46:
In Reply to: Re: Dark Shadows Memories Video and DVD posted by VAM on February 26, 2002 at 16:16:45:

Marketing--you mean they actually MARKET the series?

I thought they just randomly sold the tapes whenever they happened to have them lying around....

I noticed that DS was conspicuously absent from the new coupon I got from MPI yesterday. While I appreciate the coupons, they obviously don't know what MY major interest in the co. is.

Anybody hear anything definite about what's going to be on the new tape? It would be nice if they included some unusual Grayson item for us diehards out here. If it is just scenes from the latest Festival intercut with the usual montages from the series, I think I will skip it (though the fact that the Festival was at the WTC Marriott certainly will give a poignant flavor to any footage filmed there).

Steve

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: viki and david
« on: February 26, 2002, 01:36:48 PM »
Posted by Steve on February 26, 2002 at 07:36:48:
In Reply to: viki and david posted by sam evans on February 23, 2002 at 08:35:15:

Dear Sam Evans,

I'm sure you'll never see this reply, but, just in case you do visit again, here's my stab at answering your question.

We're not allowed to discuss gossip about the DS actors here, but, as it happens, from what I have read Alexandra and David had a perfectly happy working relationship. I think that there are several reasons why there are hardly any Vicki/David scenes in the 1968 storyline:

(1) Vicki was no longer the focal point of the series; she was a subsidiary focal point, and her story revolved around Barnabas and the dreadful Jeff Clark storyline. Given that Vicki only got so much air time in a season where there was an awful lot going on, she was more likely to have scenes with Barnabas, Jeff, or Liz rather than David.
(2) David was even less in evidence than Vicki during 1968. He doesn't become central to the storyline again until the events leading up to Quentin's first appearance. David H seems to have been taking a hiatus from the series during the storyline currently aired--I believe he doesn't appear at all for several months (and Daniel Collins practically qualifies as a cameo appearance in 1795).

This is the best I can come up with to answer your question. I do believe that Vicki and David are in a couple of scenes together in 1968, but, so far as I can recall, never one on one (or very rarely if that).

Steve

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Current Talk '02 I / You'll do, little doll ... you'll do
« on: February 25, 2002, 04:05:24 PM »
Originally posted by Steve on the Dark Shadows: General Discussion Forum on February 25, 2002 at 10:05:24:

Today's episodes are some of my favorites of this particular storyline. Angelique's emotions as she casts her first spell are wonderfully present in Lara Parker's acting. I thought she was fabulous. And KLS made a great entrance as Josette, I thought.

I obviously did not see today's broadcast (since I am at work) and it's been at least a couple years since I last ran these, so I'll refrain from further comment.

When Angelique holds up that toy soldier and purrs, "You'll do, little doll," I feel ice running down my back! It is interesting, too, to see that she is not really in complete control of her own powers (something that often happens in real-life spellcraft).

Steve

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Calendar Events / Announcements '02 I / Re: OT : Vampire Hunter D
« on: February 25, 2002, 04:00:10 PM »
Originally posted by Steve on February 25, 2002 at 10:00:10:

This movie has been shown several times locally, but I've missed it. It did sound interesting, although I heard it was awash in gratuitous violence, which made me wonder whether I would enjoy it.

I'm sorry to see you diss Hanna-Barbera. There was so much more to them than the Flintstones. Jonny Quest, the original 1964 episodes, had some of the best animation ever produced in America, I thought. The remake (as usual with these things) was unwatchable.

Steve

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: Angies HOT for Barn but he's. . . .
« on: February 25, 2002, 12:56:38 PM »
Originally posted by Steve on February 25, 2002 at 06:56:38:

Dear Luciaphil,

That's interesting that you say that Angelique might have been hoping at this particular point to have Barnabas carrying on his liaison with her while maintaining Josette as his wife. Not too many weeks down the line, she informs Ben that she's going to have everything that Josette has, from fine dresses and a privileged life to Barnabas, as she has intended all along. I thought it made the character more believable and of her time that she craved the status and the material blandishments that would come with life as Mrs. Barnabas Collins. As I see her, Angelique ALWAYS wanted to be Barnabas' wife, and she certainly insisted upon that title repeatedly in later years!

Agree that Lara Parker and Jonathan Frid had wonderful onscreen chemistry together. The passion that comes through in their playing can so believably lead one to understand how these two could both love AND hate one another down through the centuries.

Steve

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: 2nd Ep: Comments!! color? boo hoo
« on: February 22, 2002, 08:13:45 PM »
Posted by Steve on February 22, 2002 at 14:13:45:
In Reply to: Re: 2nd Ep: Comments!! color? boo hoo posted by Julia99 on February 22, 2002 at 10:20:34:

Hi Julia,

Natalie wears the same outfit one more time, in the episode where everybody moves to the New House, and you do get to see the costume in color then.

I also wish they could find the color original tape of this episode, but I fear it may have been destroyed inadvertently. I think that in some cases where we don't have the original tapes, it was because of the custom of recycling videotape in those days.

Steve

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: Juliana McCarthy
« on: February 21, 2002, 05:38:51 PM »
Posted by Steve on February 21, 2002 at 11:38:51:
In Reply to: Re: We Know They're Not Prudes In 1795 posted by Steve on February 21, 2002 at 11:30:53:

Oops, I goofed. Abigail was played in 1991 by Julianna McCarthy (who has quite a string of horror films listed under her name on IMDB). I'm sure I made the mistake because in the actual series Abigail was of course played by the divine Clarice Blackburn.

Steve

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: We Know They're Not Prudes In 1795
« on: February 21, 2002, 05:30:53 PM »
Posted by Steve on February 21, 2002 at 11:30:53:
In Reply to: We Know They're Not Prudes In 1795 posted by Gerard on February 21, 2002 at 10:20:16:

Gerard, every time I cast my glad eyes upon Lieutenant Forbes' breeches, I'm so glad they're not prudes in 1795!

Ready to rise to the occasion to, uh, defend Nathan's, uh, honor,

Steve

PS. Wait for dear Aunt Abigail's acid comments upon Miss Winters' wardrobe tomorrow! In Hawaii, her dress choice would be banned as "clothing that inspires devil worship." One of the few moments I actually enjoyed of the 1991 "remake" was the fabulous Barbara Blackburn's performance of the lines where Abigail describes the Satanic symbols upon the laundry label on Vicki's clothing. Great stuff.

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