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Testing. 1, 2, 3... / Re: Notification of Removal!! SORRY!!!!
« on: March 30, 2002, 01:38:50 AM »
Sorry, I still haven't received my email informing me that I have been DISMISSED from the DS Boards due to my DISGRACEFUL behavior.

When it arrives, I expect it to inform me what I am supposed to do for my punishment.  If it involves French lace panties, knee pads, and a cat-o-nine-tails, so much the better.

As Barnabas Collins commented in one of the more notorious episodes of the greatest storyline in DS history,  "PUNISHMENT must be exacted!"

Just another loopy fan on a Friday afternoon,

Steve

i've been naughty, haven't i????

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: Suki Madness!!!
« on: March 30, 2002, 01:33:53 AM »
Wow, Ringo, I'm really pleased, you are one of the few str8 guys I have met who doesn't slavishly follow every conceivable sports season!  

"March madness" is some sort of college basketball face-off.  I apologize if my silliness was unnecessarily obscure.  I was actually quite puzzled when my boss was telling me about it!

Love the snoop dogg comment, btw!  And I didn't post there, but I really enjoyed your Quentin magazine cover.  Someday I must email you off board to ask about what goes on with all those references to the pants.

Best,  Steve

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Current Talk '02 I / Suki Madness!!!
« on: March 29, 2002, 10:35:45 PM »
My boss was telling me today about March madness, an obscure festival involving some cult that revolves around two sacred symbols, a rubber ball and a hoop hung high, no doubt to symbolize the fact that the sun is rising earlier and earlier each day and the Wheel of the Year (represented by the ball) is turning brighter and brighter.  Yeah, that must be it.

Anyhow, thanks to the Mysterious B for today's montage and the alert that SUKI madness has come to Collinwood!  Suki's ensemble, especially with that chapeau, is very Mae West and Belle of the Nineties, isn't it?  Boy, how I am looking forward to the Fashion Notes from today.  Miz Luciaphil, if you please!

Let's imagine one liners that could happen in Suki's chat with Millicent:

"Goodness, what lovely false eyelashes."

"Goodness had NUTHIN' ta do with it, HONEY.  Ever hear of WOOLWORTH'S?"

"You must excuse Nathan, he's been working very hard these days."

"Funny, when I knew Nathan, if there was something HARD about him, it didn't involve WORK."

"You know, Miss Forbes, I do hope my homemaking skills are sufficient for your brother, I know what HIGH standards he has!"

"Honey, it's not HOMEMAKING he wants, it's MAKING HO!!!"

(Millicent conveniently faints at this point)

Oh dear ... I'm afraid I've shockingly lowered the tone of this board ... I'm afraid I see Midnite with a large HOOK glowering at me in the wings!!!

Steve

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Luciaphil darling,

Thanks for reminding me that this column exists!  I've enjoyed reading all your witty comments and distinctive observations about these shows, and now I'll remember to check this part of the boards for updates.

As regards costumes, I'd say Grayson had the most UNEVEN wardrobe of anyone.  Sometimes her outfits were, if not beautiful, very flattering to her coloring and looks.  I particularly love that electric blue dress that she wore several times in the winter of 1968-69.  There was another one with a roll-neck collar which she appeared in the final scene set in 1971.  That's counterbalanced by that unspeakable sweater set horror they stuck her in for the ENTIRE second half of the 1967 storyline, that hideously nubby orange horror that Stanley Simmons had the gall to pull out of the mothballs after Ramse Mostoller finally quit in 1970, that ghastly coat they made her wear during the Leviathan storyline (no successful professional woman in her right mind would have been seen dead in that thing), etc. etc.

Sorry to have gone on so.  Love the column, Luciaphil.

Best,  Steve

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: Question on the Family Name
« on: March 28, 2002, 11:03:11 PM »
Hi Latisha, that's funny about Millicent calling Nathan "Joe." I missed that.

Daniel (Millicent's little brother, played by David Henesy--I think he has yet to appear because David was taking a hiatus from the show during this time) is the direct ancestor of the 1960s Collins family.  They make this point a bit later on in the story.  You'll see.

Hope you continue enjoying the show!

Best,

Steve (a fan since 1968!)

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Current Talk '02 I / Joshua and Naomi
« on: March 28, 2002, 10:57:39 PM »
Haven't been keeping up with the shows as b'cast on Sci Fi (I have had almost NO time to enjoy videos lately), and I've hardly read every post here, but I am still surprised not to have seen a topic for the amazing scene between Louis and Joan where they discuss the death of their daughter, Sarah.  I believe the scene played at the beginning of the first episode yesterday (Wed.)  It's the one where Joan has the line about the little bird she heard singing at dawn.  The scene is absolutely heartbreaking--the expression of devastation on Joshua's face is still with me years after my viewing of it.  A wonderful moment between the two of them, and I defy anyone to watch this and claim Joan Bennett wasn't a great actress.

I remember somebody posting this as one of the most effective, memorable moments in the entire series.  I would definitely agree with that estimation.

In the post on the sources for the 1795 storyline, 2 other films that come to mind are "The Undead," a very cheaply made Roger Corman film of the Fifties, and "Berkeley Square" with Leslie Howard.

Best wishes,

Steve

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: John Karlen Q&A 1977
« on: March 27, 2002, 11:35:10 PM »
This was great!  I love reading interviews with John Karlen, and there don't seem to be too many of them available in print.  Plus, this one is so EARLY.  It's unreal to be reading along and realize that when he appeared at this event, Charlie's Angels and Barnaby Jones (think he ever said BARNABAS Jones by mistake???) were big primetime shows.

When I think of Karlen now, I remember him with David Selby at the 1999 NY Festival, with his bag of Polish bread and his what me worry? attitude.  I hope Karlen is doing well.  Have not heard any recent news of him.  I saw him at last year's event and he looked great.

Steve

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Whenever I have watched these episodes, I always thought that, as a witch, Angelique was immune to anything as mundane as a gunshot wound.    One of the things I like about the 1795 storyline is that it seems that you are watching Angelique learn about her own powers as it goes along.  They even imply in one line, I believe, that the choking spell on Barnabas was the first spell she ever cast (though I would doubt that, her Maman had obviously taught the child a lot about spellcraft).

When Angelique does appear to die subsequently, it is at the hands of a creature of the supernatural, and as the apparent result of her own curse, as Barnabas gloatingly informs her.  But watch out kids, she may be back ...

Angelique's comin' ... look busy!

Steve

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: Frid/DS Q&A 11/84 Part 1
« on: March 27, 2002, 01:03:36 AM »
Thanks for that, Nancy, that was very interesting, especially for all the fans who have never had the chance to read one of these.  

I was curious about the date, 1984.  Now, I was living abroad during much of the 80s (specifically, I lived in Taiwan from 1982-86) and boy, did I feel like a foreigner when I came back to live in the US.  Anyhow, in one part of this interview (in answer to the question whether Julia was written to be a comic character!) he alludes to the failure of the NBC revival.  This makes me wonder whether part of this may not date to 1991 or 1992?  I would guess Summer of 1991, since the NBC series was canceled that Spring?  Just a thought.

Also, it's interesting to see him mention the part that was done "like a film, bit by bit"--I think he must mean the part when Maggie finally does escape from Barnabas, in the 1967 storyline, with Sarah's help.  I think most of that show was done on film which accounts for why they were able to start and stop.  I was fascinated by the much earlier episode from 1966 with Roger stalking Vicki through the West Wing, where they clearly had some footage spliced in with a stand-in for Louis Edmonds (where you would only see the legs and the footwear).  

Thanks again for posting this.

Steve

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: Goodbye, Ruby Tuesday
« on: March 26, 2002, 07:30:20 PM »
Bob,

Thanks for that touching paean.  Poor dear Ruby, gone but not forgotten.  I believe her ghost appears again in a later episode.  

Ever see the FAB appearance by the Stones when they performed this song on Ed Sullivan back in the day?  Brian Jones wears this gorgeously poofy hat and does things to a recorder that wouldn't be allowed on network TV today.  I loved Brian Jones.  What a genius ...

Steve

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: Hi Kids!
« on: March 26, 2002, 07:26:29 PM »
Jason, you doll!  It's great to see you here!  It's been waaaaaaay too long!

I'm sure you're far too busy watching ... and writing! brilliant films to fiddle with DS, but you know we'd love to hear some comments from you about the Insanity that is 1795.  

I read a graphic novel in a series called The Invisibles 2 weeks back that made me think of you and your uniquely twisted imagination.  Unfortunately the book switched artists halfway through, and the replacement had the most wretched draftsmanship ... such is life.

xo  Stevie

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: Don Briscoe
« on: March 26, 2002, 06:57:23 PM »
Since no other male fans have spoken up yet about Don the divine, I'll take the initiative.  He has a considerable following amongst the gay DS fans to this day.  One of my dearest friends and I take turns claiming Chris Jennings as our boyfriend whenever he, as it were, comes up.  His shirtless scenes are incredibly exciting.  I guess somebody realized how much his swimmer's physique spiced the show up because there are SEVERAL episodes where he comes in and rips his shirt off!  This was well before the period when all the soaps featured shirtless hunks parading around too.  Once again, DS was a pioneer for those other tired copycat soaps!

There is an interview with Don Briscoe from the early 90s available in the fan-published zine Fangs for the Memories.  He recalled being upset when Dan Curtis was directing the show one day and made him smoke a cigarette on camera--he felt it was setting a bad example for the young viewers of the show. He also recalled being in the cast of the Broadway production of Boys in the Band in 1969 as a career highlight.  At this time the original cast members were doing the film version.  

It's great to see Don remembered here.  

Steve

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: Ben said a dirty word
« on: March 22, 2002, 01:55:01 AM »
Hi Allen Collins,

Glad to hear there is another Avengers fan here.  I love the Cathy Gale (Honor Blackman) episodes, especially the ones from the second season (1962-63).  Blackman had such a wonderfully expressive face.  I think she expressed too much strength and independence to make it as a big star back in the Sixties, though.

The Avengers weren't shown on the BBC.  I think ITV which was the first British commercial TV network ran them, but I could be wrong.  The logo at the end of the episodes says ABC which does NOT mean the network that aired DS originally back in the Sixties.

Best,

Steve

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Hi Raineypark,

Love your post about the anachronisms in the current storyline btw--I foresee that as turning into a very long section.  The Countess' clothing is about 40 years out of date (maybe more, but those dresses were on their way OUT by 1770 for sure--why didn't they put her in a powdered wig?  Maybe the powder gave Grayson a sneezing fit!)  So there's lots to write about on that topic.

I've been a very erratic Festival attendee myself.  The main reason I keep going is because of my friends among the fans.  I do think there is some backbiting or cliquishness as Joe's friend mentioned, but I think if you don't hang out with certain groups of people who mainly keep to themselves, you'd never notice it.  I think this kind of thing was more noticeable back in the 1980s when an event that drew 200 people was big news.  They routinely get 1500 on Saturday alone in NYC and last year's not-previously-announced mail-registration only for Sat. was presumably to circumvent fire code violations due to the crowds who always show up for the New York Festivals.  I think the fandom has really grown now that the show has become a mainstay (and wisely so) on the Sci Fi Channel.  It clearly has an appeal that transcends time!  And DS fandom has a magic that transcends petty fannish squabbling.

So, I hope you encourage your friend to join you at a Festival.  I bet you'll have a great time.  

As for improving the Festivals--the actors I really loved on the show are all dead.  They used to do more skits (I will never forget a marvelous one act thing Marie Wallace did one year) but if the skits are non-DS the fans often don't have much interest.  I was so upset about people coming in and going out and talking during a wonderful performance David Selby did in NYC a few years ago.     There used to be a video room set up where they would screen episodes and rare videos of other projects the actors had appeared in.  Perhaps these features will appear again at future festivals.  I've been meaning for years to approach the Festival committee about doing a tribute to Grayson Hall featuring clips from my collection, but I haven't ever managed to find the time to write up a proposal.  It would be lovely to have one for Thayer David, as well, though presumably fan interest would be smaller in that.  He is one of my top favorite DS thespians ... I do appreciate it that a few others here have written appreciatively about his work, as well.  Jonathan Frid commented once at a Festival about how sweet Thayer was and how he was like everyone's favorite Uncle on set.

Gawd, that was a never ending post!

Cheers, Steve

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: How Hairlarious!
« on: March 20, 2002, 07:40:19 PM »
Roger Davis says on one of the MPI tapes (I think it might be "Behind the Scenes of Dark Shadows") that he was basically Dan Curtis' pet actor.  Or something like that.  I am always surprised he was so honest about that.  It's very "Norma Desmond" (as in Sunset Boulevard) the way he says that, too--he's wearing this pair of designer sunglasses and removes them slowly, dramatically, and starts talking about his special status on the DS premises.

I actually kind of enjoyed RD's performance as Dirk Wilkins.  I won't say anything to spoil it, but I think that character was designed to let him do something different and he was better at that than the leading man roles Curtis kept handing him.  He did do well in the role of Jeff in hoDS, I thought, but again that role did not challenge him the way some of his DS roles did.  

I will confess here and now that "Peter and Vicki" and their seemingly endless scenes together are a big reason why 1795 never makes my list of my top favorite DS storylines.  There are whole episodes devoted to Peter and Vicki and their trials and tribulations, and in my not-so-humble opinion, they drag painfully.  

Steve

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