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Current Talk '02 I / Re: She cares for me. . .
« on: May 13, 2002, 09:21:20 PM »
Oh, Barnabas had figured out that Julia "cared" for him quite some time before that scene with Carolyn during the "let's scare Julia out of her mind" storyline.  

Before she began the final phase of the 1967 "experiment," Julia told Barnabas that "there might be someone who would accept you and love you as you are now."  In a voice dripping with sarcasm, Barnabas stated that he'd like to meet such a woman!  He clearly realized that Jules was talking about herself.

This is around the same time when Barnabas addresses Julia as "my dear" whenever he's trying to manipulate her.  He is a lot nicer to her in the 1968 storyline.  In 1967 you get the feeling that he did not fully appreciate how much she cared for him until she had offered her own throat to "cure" him from his disastrous aging. "Why, Julia?" he asks in a way that suggests he feels briefly humbled by such self-sacrifice.

In the current storyline (1968 ) he does come to realize how much HE cares about HER in a later plot development ...

Gothick

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Luciaphil, MANY THANKS for giving me a smile on a rather tired, dreary Monday morning here in rainy Boston.  Several smiles, actually, and a few suppressed guffaws too (we don't want to frighten the horses, darling).

Nicky has a theory that they used more than one wig for Cassandra.  The wig really is in its own category, isn't it?  I wonder whether they could smell the thing as it entered the room?  It must have exuded a rather potent tang of styling solution ... something industrial strength, I should think!

Agree with you about the Stokes/Barn scene at the Old House.  The fact that that WASN"T on the "Best of Dark Shadows" tape shows that the editor of those tapes doesn't know the series as well as he thinks he does.  By the way, a friend of mine is convinced that Thayer was adjusting his dentures at one point in that scene ... when he has his back turned to Barn and the camera, he's obviously doing something peculiar with his mouth.

I personally like the lilac color on Cassandra ...

Agree with you about the ICKY subtext in those Lang/Peter scenes.  Keep imagining Peter feverishly scribbing in a ratty notebook labeled "I was a sex slave to a mad scientist," assuming he'd get rich selling the story to the Natl Enquirer if he could ever escape the Collinsport looney bin.

You didn't comment upon another of my favorite scenes in the entire series--the one where Angelique visits Barnabas in a vision and warns him to "beware of dreams!"  Evidently you weren't impressed.  I think this is one of the moments when Parker really shone.

Oh, please do keep picking away at Eric Lang's medical credentials (not to mention the question of his psychological competence).  You have no idea how therapeutic it is for some of us!

Thanks again for a wonderful post,

Gothick

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Thanks for the wonderful notes on two of my favorite DS episodes, Luciaphil.  Even if the writing is uneven, the introduction of Cassandra is so beautifully played.  I think the Liz scenes are particularly well done, and I also LOVE that first little scene between Cass and Julia. So much subtext there.  Even though Lara Parker has complained that she found Grayson intimidating, some of her best work on the series was done in her scenes with Grayson.

I do t hink the wig improves in subsequent episodes.  I don't find the wig inappropriate, actually; something about Cassandra's personality comes across as "big hair girl."  I'm sure others disagree, but I see that as working well with the clothes and the general look.  And believe it or not, people still had hairstyles like that back in 1968.  Especially young women who came from wealthier, more conservative backgrounds (Cassandra's cover story is that she's from a good Main Line Philadelphia family, isn't it?).  

In case people are confused--Cassandra's wig is supposed to be her real hair.  I know it seems mighty implausible but we all do realize how far DS used to push that "suspension of disbelief" stuff, don't we?

Do please carry on, Luciaphil darling.  I can't wait to see your comments on the start-up of the Duh-REAM Curse!

Steve

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: It was the best of times,
« on: May 09, 2002, 11:29:34 PM »
If you want a nice view of what the cast thought of the Summer of 1968 storyline, listen to the cast interview on the Dark Shadows Soundtrack CD (believe it's on Rhino--the first half is the contents of the original 1969 soundtrack LP).  This was done in August '68, I believe, and it's a hoot.  I just love Grayson's description of Julia's professional abilities!  And my beloved Don Briscoe makes a cameo appearance, too!  (you can hear Grayson giggling when he mentions playing "the new vampire in town"!)

Steve

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Calendar Events / Announcements '02 I / Re: Reunion of DS Friends
« on: May 09, 2002, 06:51:24 PM »
Thanks for posting these, Bob.  It's nice to see that Guy is looking so well.  I haven't seen him myself in about 2 years.

And it was nice to put a face to the name for Byron and his lovely family.  

Best,

Steve

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Thanks for that deliciously dry and witty comment upon "that year of insanity, 1968" (I've always wondered just who Kathy and Marcy were quoting with that subject line).  I have to wonder whether DC wasn't dictating plot lines at this point, and the daffy dialogue and situations weren't Gordon's and Sam's way of quietly fighting back.  Loony though it is, I just love the episode where Roger goes to Lang's creepy home and nearly harpoons him.  Just wonderful stuff.

Agree with you, too, about the set for Stokes' cottage.  I always love the scenes set there.  

I bet Clarice Blackburn did rewrite some of her dialogue for that scene.  I sometimes suspect Thayer David of improvising his own dialogue, too.

Thanks again!  Please do share with us your thoughts about the arrival of the new Mrs Roger Collins at the manor.

Steve

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: I don't understand it!!!!
« on: May 08, 2002, 11:38:04 PM »
How many times did Barnabas say variations on the line "You have betrayed me" or "You know better than to betray me" in 1967?  I remember when I started watching DS in 1968 that the fact that they used the word "betray" with the same frequency as regular folk ask for the salt at the dinner table made a definite impression upon me.

So many of the fans complain about how unreal DS was--for me that was one of the top draws of the show!

Steve

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: But Can She Twitch Her Nose?
« on: May 08, 2002, 10:40:50 PM »
Gerard,

IMNSHO, there's definitely a Sixties Serena/Cassandra groove thang going on, although I'm quite sure that Serena wouldn't be caught DEAD in that ghastly cape-coat dear Cassandra wore for her very first appearance at Collinwood.

Also, do you notice how HEAVILY greased and shellacked Cassandra's wig is on her first day?  She must have been creating an ozone hole right over Collinsport as Roger drove up the coast (let's pray he had the top down on his Chevy convertible) and Cass was spraying away, seemingly for hours, to make that damned hair lay down and fluff up.

My dear friend Nicky wrote a HILARIOUS story about Angelique first appearing in a very "square" blonde persona in a NYC discotheque and getting some help with her look from "Cousin Serena" before proceeding to Rockport and that ill-fated semiinar with Prof. Stokes.

I'm looking forward to more comments on this topic.  Love your idea of Clarice playing Endora (I bet that Agnes would have mown her down with an Uzi if she'd gone NEAR the part, though)!  I'm too attached to Marion Lorne's wonderful portrayal as Aunt Clara to consider any other actress in the part, even the divine Anita Bolster.

Gothick

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: Fave Character?
« on: May 07, 2002, 11:22:41 PM »
As if you couldn't guess ...

Julia! Julia! Julia!  

Other characters for whom I have a sentimental attachment...

Barnabas ... I wonder whether other gay men of my generation (early 40s) identified with Barnabas as a child?  He just seemed to encapsulate so perfectly the sense of being an outsider, a misfit, someone who didn't belong.  I felt there was a world of difference between how his curse affected Barnabas, and how it affected Quentin.  

Cassandra.  I'm looking forward to the comments about her imminent introduction!  She was on my second episode of DS, and her melodramatic flair had a lot to do with my getting hooked into watching the show.

Prof.  T. Eliot Stokes was in my FIRST episode of DS, and I thought he was simply grand!  Still think so today!

Nicholas.  I still remember his arrival at Collinwood, and how intriguing he was.  I thought Humbert added a very different kind of flair to the show--just as Grayson did when she arrived.

Chris.  For some it's Barnabas, for others it's Quentin--for me, Chris is the major male heart throb of DS.  And I thought that Don Briscoe made Chris (originally not a very sympathetic character--I think the "Marilyn" Ross novel involving the character gives you an idea of how DC might have seen the character play out) more three dimensional, poignant and real.

Count Petofi.  I just love ALL of Thayer David's characters, but Petofi has such wonderful wit and cosmopolitan grandeur.  I never tire of watching his episodes!

Pansy/Charity.  I really love her scenes, especially whenever she's onscreen with Jerry Lacey (and he starts barking "Daughter!" at her).

Magda.  Grayson Hall's favorite character, and I can really understand why!

There are others, too, but I am starting to write a book, so I'll desist for now.  Julia still rules!

Gothick

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Thanks for all these replies.  I forgot all about this post until today, sorry about that. You guys are making me feel like I've got a Greek chorus following me around, since I have two friends who also ask me, practically every time they call, "did you buy a DVD player yet???"  I really can't afford to replace everything I have on tape onto DVD, but I'm definitely going to get stuck acquiring more of those pesky discs.  Believe it or not, I waited till 1995 before breaking down and buying a CD player.  I generally wait at least a few years to make sure the new format isn't just another fad (which was pretty much the case with laser disc--I do own 2 of them, both well worth it; one is the double house & Night of DS set, & the other is Night of the Eagle, aka Burn Witch Burn!)

John, I'm looking forward to reading your report on the Satan in High Heels DVD.  I looked at it in the shop, and was frankly annoyed that there weren't any extras that I could discern that bore any relationship to the film.  They could have at least cleaned up the trailer, since bad copies of that have been circulating for years.  I also find that Something Weird logo they put on their product VERY annoying.

Curmudgeonly old emigre New Englander,

Gothick

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Testing. 1, 2, 3... / Re: DS 1968 Avatars - Part 2
« on: May 07, 2002, 06:54:18 PM »
Darling, You know, I just realized that the initials "MM" can mean both "Maestro Misterioso" AND "Marilyn Monroe"!  As well of course as the more "common" meaning of a sweet, colorful candy that melts in your mouth, not in your hand (a wonderful attribute, to be sure!).

Thanks so much for thinking of me!  I just adore that photo.  Although I'm starting to realize the repercussions that may ensue from the fact that people will now associate me with a screaming, hysterical, red-headed physician!

No Marcus Welby, I.

TTFN,  Gothick

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Testing. 1, 2, 3... / Re: DS 1968 Avatars - Part 2
« on: May 06, 2002, 11:40:34 PM »
Wow, I persisted and added the Julia C2 photo to my profile.  And it seems to have been added retroactively to some of my posts!

Isn't modern technology wonderful (said with Hermione Gingold drawl)????

Thanks again O Maestro Misterioso!

Gothick

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Testing. 1, 2, 3... / Re: DS 1968 Avatars - Part 2
« on: May 06, 2002, 05:50:16 PM »
Oops, guess I should make it clear that I'm not going to try to "set" the Julia photo for my "avatar" (I'm sorry, that word BOTHERS me used this way).  I remember seeing the option when I was setting up my profile but just don't have the 2 hours it would probably take now to figure out how to put it in!

So, anyone else who wants this DIVOON PHOTO OF HYSTERICAL JULIA being advised by evil, crafty Barn to "remember SOMEONE," ... be my guest!

Isn't Dark Shadows a great show???

Steve

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Testing. 1, 2, 3... / Re: DS 1968 Avatars - Part 2
« on: May 06, 2002, 05:47:28 PM »
Caro Misterioso, these are all FAB!!! but you know my top fave is HYSTERICAL JULIA ON THE PHONE!!!!

I'm going to go home and watch this episode in your honor tonight.  A Webmaster and a Gentleman!

The Cassandra icons are fab too, btw.  I hope our buddy Nicky gets to see them.

Cheers,  Gothick

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Well, I'm interested, but I long ago gave up on webchats--generally one either can't log on, or the chatroom keeps getting flooded and everyone gets kicked out, or the mods just ignore one ... or a combination of all 3...

If anybody here does go, I'd love it if you would ask Karlen if he has any memories from working with Grayson Hall.

And tell him he should get Sharon Gless on the horn and have her get him on Queer as folk!

Best,  Gothick

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