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Calendar Events / Announcements '18 / Re: My Dark Shadows Art Project
« on: April 03, 2018, 08:52:52 PM »
Is that Maggie as the Evil Bride of Nicholas? I love it!

I usually don't have any time at all for this kind of thing, but these are cute and charming. Congratulations!

G.

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Current Talk '18 / Re: Ron Sproat and Barnabas
« on: April 03, 2018, 06:56:18 PM »
Last night, I listened to the Manhattan Shadows Technical Panel. Another fascinating snapshot of DS history, and I'm very grateful to the Doctor and K9 for sharing it with us!

Ironically there was one major technical difficulty with the panel, which seemed mainly to be caused by the fact that there was nobody in the room (so far as I could tell) in charge of either moderating the panel or handling microphone issues. Poor Jonathan Frid was left on his own to struggle with this, and he was obviously quite uncomfortable with the mike. (It should be said that he had great enthusiasm for the topic and was quite chatty throughout.) It seemed odd to me that none of the event organizers appeared to be present either to take charge or at least provide backup for Frid. At one point, he mentioned that another event was occurring elsewhere in the space so perhaps all the organizers were involved with that.

If so, they missed a really fascinating discussion. Frid begins by telling his audience that every day of his first year on DS was "absolute hell" for him, mainly due to his struggle to learn his lines. Later on (around the 30 minute mark) he shared his surprise when he finally viewed his first full episode in 1967. He was delighted to see that his work in that, which he had thought was a disaster during the taping, "was actually the best performance I'd ever given." He also goes into detail about his first day on the set and his process with getting into the work of doing the shows.

Among the line-up was one gentleman I'd never heard of. His name was something like Max Youngham (definitely Max--Frid only said the surname once, and the tape is not good quality). Incidentally, listening to the tape with headphones is a MUST. Earbuds don't work. Max handled the boom and as a result, heard all the director's comments in the control room. Apparently, the director was often having some kind of meltdown while the taping was going on due to all the technical issues, not to mention whenever one of the actors had a problem in the middle of taping.

The other guests are Ross Skipper, who had a beautiful clear speaking voice and a very down to earth manner. Ken McEwan, the "stage manager," who as you will all remember appeared in a few episodes during PT1970 as Larry Chase (he didn't discuss this). He did talk about his responsibilities which were primarily to the network to make sure the show never ran over, or ran short. Ron Sproat, whose own appearance on the other tape is more interesting, was part of this discussion.

I think Ross Skipper towards the end told what may have been my favorite story on the tape. He mentioned that somebody would run through all the medical accomplishments Julia had as a joke with Grayson and wind up with "and you're Barnabas's proctologist, too." It would make her rather exasperated. Some ingenue actress overheard this banter and asked Grayson, "What's a proctologist?" (She had a sheltered upbringing, no doubt.) Grayson swiveled and snapped, "It's an ASS DOCTOR. Now shut up!"

Great fun...

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '18 / Marie Wallace as India Delaney
« on: April 03, 2018, 04:58:16 AM »
Marie Wallace fans may enjoy this magazine article (with photos) from 1973:

https://archive.org/details/TVByDayMay1973

G.

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Current Talk '18 / Re: Ron Sproat and Barnabas
« on: March 31, 2018, 10:35:23 PM »
Thank you so much! I'm looking forward to listening to "The Bells" tape again tonight. It's a real treasure and a great treat!

G.

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Current Talk '18 / Re: Ron Sproat and Barnabas
« on: March 31, 2018, 05:09:04 AM »
Just parking this link here--I presume this is the Technical Panel referenced in an earlier post by Doctor and K-9. Description says Jonathan moderated, and Ross Skipper, Ken McEwan, and Ron Sproat were the speakers.

https://archive.org/details/Manhattan1ShadowsTechPanelHostedByJonathanFrid

G.

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Current Talk '18 / Re: Ron Sproat and Barnabas
« on: March 31, 2018, 05:05:41 AM »
Wow Wow Wow!  This one is awesome, though it takes awhile for them to get organized for the performance.

Jonathan and Lara reciting Poe's magnificently strange poem,"The Bells," at some DS event:

https://archive.org/details/09FridWithLaraParkerTheBellsByPoe

Doctor and K-9, is this from one of your recordings?

G.

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Current Talk '18 / Re: Ron Sproat and Barnabas
« on: March 31, 2018, 04:13:09 AM »
I am listening to the Manhattan Shadows tape with Jonathan, Joel Crothers and Addison Powell. Some nuggets:

Joel expressed great fondness for the fans, and appreciated how loyal they had been to him through the years. They made him feel like "a star."

Jonathan said he thought John Karlen was one of the sweetest people he ever worked with, and said he wished he could see Karlen more often than when he went out to LA for an event called ShadowCon. He also said that Lara was good for him when they worked together because she goaded him to be better. He commented on having viewed an episode where they had a tempestuous scene together and he thought it was one of the best ones they did: "She turned me on, I turned her on..." (I think he meant "turned on" in the sense of galvanizing one another as actors.)

Addison Powell, when a fan finally asked him a question, commented about Dr Lang in the lab:  "I'm not a gadget person." (One of my favorite comments in the entire interview--old-timers will know what I mean.)

It was also interesting to hear Joel talk about working on TORCH SONG TRILOGY with Harvey Fierstein. One of the fans asked him about it--she'd been to see him in it.

G.

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Current Talk '18 / Re: Ron Sproat and Barnabas
« on: March 30, 2018, 06:56:58 PM »
In the 1983 tape, Ron says he found the name Barnabas in "an old whaling book." I remember reading in the first KLS book (published around '86) that Bob Costello found the name on an old tombstone. Who knows, maybe they both saw the name, and it came up when they were having the script conference and that was what they settled upon.

It's certainly a name that packed a punch!

G.

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Current Talk '18 / Re: Ron Sproat and Barnabas
« on: March 30, 2018, 03:42:57 AM »
Thanks for sharing these, Doctor and K-9! I am just listening to Ron's talk again, with better headphones, so I can hear more.

He confirms twice that Vicki was intended to be revealed as Elizabeth's illegitimate daughter. So, this genuinely does seem to have been part of the original plan for the show.

He also says that he knew Jonathan Frid as a friend before the latter ever started on the show (he calls him "John," which was apparently how Frid was known to his friends), and they discussed the character of Barnabas when Frid was cast. Dan really wanted Barnabas to be "pure evil," but all the writers argued that that would not be sustainable in a serial format. Frid suggested writing it so that he had opportunities to SUGGEST evil through expression and delivery, and Ron gives credit to him for that suggestion.

Ron mentions running into Dan after hoDS came out and Dan told him, "I FINALLY got to do Barnabas the way I wanted in the movie!"

This is fascinating to hear because Ron Sproat offers so much more nuance and detail than I'm used to hearing from people who were interviewed subsequently about the show. Perhaps because in 1983, it was relatively recent, and Ron mentions having watched some of the old episodes when they were being syndicated out again.

G.

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Current Talk '18 / Re: Ron Sproat and Barnabas
« on: March 29, 2018, 11:49:26 PM »
Ron also mentions that Joel Crothers got sick of playing Joe Haskell and begged to be allowed to play a villain. Interesting because that's what Alexandra wanted to do, as well. Ron also said that everyone liked John Karlen so much that after Willie was written out of the story, they put it on their list of things to do to find a way to get Karlen back.

For those who get to the very end of the tape, there's a surprise. That's all I will say for now. (It doesn't involve Grayson, though--I wouldn't be able to get such a momentous event under my hat!)

G.

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Current Talk '18 / Re: Ron Sproat and Barnabas
« on: March 29, 2018, 07:31:21 PM »
Cool, MB. Perhaps you will uncover some nuggets I missed.

I advise turning the volume up as high as it will go, and listening using actual headphones, not earbuds. It's a very low level recording.

There's actually one point where a fan asks about the abandoned Betty Hanscombe storyline and Ron just says the story was changed. Remarkable given that in 1983, nobody had seen those episodes since 1966.

G.

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Current Talk '18 / Re: Ron Sproat and Barnabas
« on: March 29, 2018, 06:06:58 PM »
Interesting to learn that Alexandra Moltke's husband had to arrive at the studio with a court order, in order for Alex to be released from her work on the show. I'd always wondered if she'd just left one day and telephoned to tell the front office she wasn't coming back.

Ron does say here that it was a conflict with Dan that led to his own departure from the writing staff.

This is a fascinating tape. Thank you again, Doctor and K-9, for sharing it!

G.

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Current Talk '18 / Re: Ron Sproat and Barnabas
« on: March 29, 2018, 03:40:19 PM »
Thanks, Doctor and K9!

G.

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Current Talk '21 I / Re: Boardindex Page Montage/aka 'Book 1'?
« on: March 28, 2018, 10:21:02 PM »
Regarding the professional use of "cover dates," see the section on comic books here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cover_date

Interesting that the practice goes way back to the 1930s. And of course, Marvel has abandoned it altogether. Just to be different, no doubt.

G.

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Current Talk '21 I / Re: Boardindex Page Montage/aka 'Book 1'?
« on: March 28, 2018, 10:14:48 PM »
Dear God! *clutches throat dramatically, gasps, takes DEEP intake of breath*

Just when I thought it was SAFE to go back online!

Clutching newel-post,

G.

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