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That was a good review.  I personally find the Curtis Dorian Gray top-knotch, well acted television drama.  Some profess to find the adaptation boring or kitsch, but I like Davenport and Briant the best of any of those who have essayed the key roles of Lord Henry and Dorian.  I think the production would have worked even better had Basil been more the way he was in the book.  The adaptation made him too hetero (and cast him with an actor who was about 10 years too old for the part) and more taken with Dorian's innocence than his startling physical perfection. In the book, in which Basil was a throwback to the male-focused artistic ideals of ancient Athens.

I don't agree with Robert Osbourne though that the publication of Dorian Gray started Wilde's legal troubles.  The book came out first in magazine form in 1889 or 1890.  And I think the cloth publication was in 1890 or 1891.  Wilde's legal difficulties resulted from his relationship with Lord Alfred "Bosie" Douglas.  Although readers of a later time often assume that Dorian is a projection of Wilde's troubled paramour, in reality Dorian was inspired by John Gray, a conflicted aesthetic poet who flirted with Wilde for a time in the late 1880s.  I don't believe Wilde and Douglas met until around 1892.

Bosie Douglas' papa, the notorious "Scarlett Marquis," the Marquis of Queensberry (an enthusiast of pugilism), was outraged by Wilde's antics with his son. Wilde actually wanted to be more discreet--Bosie manipulated his lover to push the envelope in order to get at his father, whom he hated.  All this is ably dramatized in the Stephen Frye vehicle, Wilde (in which Jude Law portrays Lord Alfred Douglas very much as the vitriolic monster depicted in Wilde's own prison memoir, De Profundis, and also Andre Gide's If it die not, which deserves to be more widely read).

For comparison, I recommend the 1970 Helmut Berger vehicle, Dorian Gray, with Herbert Lom as Lord Henry Wotton.  In this version, the story was updated to the milieu of the late Sixties and decadent, Swinging London, and the gay aspects were made somewhat more explicit, considerably more so than in the Dan Curtis version.

Gothick

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Darling, I'm laughing myself sick here!

fortunately for all concerned, instead of seeing this on Freaky Friday, I've been enjoying it on Manky Monday.

Now isn't THAT special.

kiss kiss,

Gothththththth (ends in that weird squeak that Angelique sometimes emits when she takes a sharp intake of breath--yeah, it's a witchy thing)

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Current Talk '03 I / Re:Fashion Notes from the Runway observer
« on: June 16, 2003, 06:56:27 PM »
Hey Julia, I have to wonder whether Grayson demanded sleeves on the housekeeper's uniform dress.  It's very odd that it was short sleeved that one day.  I thought she looked better that way, as well.  She may have felt that her arms were too skinny.

I also liked the necklace.  It suited her.

xo  Steve

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Calendar Events / Announcements '03 I / Re:Scream of the Wolf
« on: June 13, 2003, 02:58:29 PM »
Thanks, Arashi.  I finally checked IMDB yesterday, and the flick with Babs Rush in it was MOON of the Wolf.

Now that's something I'd LOVE to see on Chris Jennings, hmmmm...

(just realizing what a train wreck the whole Sabrina episode was for poor darling Chris, after cackling wildly over the MB's HILARIOUS farewell montage to the two of them--you know, it's like the NY Times:  you can tell how the Editor feels about someone from the photos they choose to display for their send-off!)

G.

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Current Talk '03 I / Sci Fi's trashy DS broadcasts
« on: June 13, 2003, 02:49:22 PM »
OK, am I going out of my mind, or has the quality of Sci Fi's DS feed gone waaaayyyy below par???

I had the show on both yesterday and today.  Yesterday's viewing was very brief, but it looked, in the scene between Carolyn Loomis and Daniel in Angelique's room, as if someone had smeared brylcreem all over the camera lens (hmmm... maybe Buzz was visiting the studio that day?)  I don't remember this problem on my tape of that episode.

And on today's show, I noticed instantly that the feed looked grainy and washed out, compared to my MPI tape.  This was during today's second show, which is one of my favorite episodes in all DS, and I've viewed my own tape of it many times.   I found myself wondering whether the source material for the broadcasts is low grade copies of the masters rather than a higher quality thingamujig?

I know NAHSSINGK (bellowed with Magda Rakosi elan) about technical details of today's television broadcasts, but I notice that TV Land always maintains a high quality image when they run old shows, and I don't understand why Sci Fi can't do the same for DS.  I guess it may be the only Sixties show they are running now, so perhaps they just don't care anymore.  (Come to think of it, on TV Land's Bewitched marathon, one of the Dick Sargent era--ca. 1970 shows ran as a blurry, grainy film copy, where clearly no one had bothered to strike a new print of the episode for whatever reason.)

btw, when they were running that TACKY Stargate promo DURING the start of Act One, and acidic schmutz was belching all over Carolyn and Barnabas, I really felt the programmers were adding insult to injury!

Makes me profoundly grateful I don't rely upon Sci Fi for my DS viewing...

G.

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Current Talk '03 I / Re:Farewell Montages
« on: June 13, 2003, 02:36:55 PM »
Great Montages, darling Maestro misterioso!  Superb work as always.

I'll have to try and figure out which show that WEIRD shot of Liz with the black tape on her nose is from.  I recall that being discussed some years back, I think in one of Luciaphil's episode commentaries.

I'm not sure I've ever seen that episode, but it must be among my tapes, since I have all the shows from June 1967 onwards.

G.

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Current Talk '03 I / Re:"Eye of the Devil" and Dark Shadows
« on: June 12, 2003, 06:28:48 PM »
Vlad!  I saw this topic a few days back, but stupidly thought you were talking about the Lara Parker flick, Race for the Devil.  I wish I had realized you were talking about Eye of the Devil; I'd have had a friend tape it for me.  I used to have a tape of it (from an AMC showing of many years ago, back when they aired movies without commercial interruption) but loaned it to a friend who never returned it, and who is no longer in contact.

Interestingly I have an old magazine (from around 1965) that has a publicity article on the making of Eye of the Devil, or 13 as it was then known.  When I finally got to see it, I thought it was a real gem.  Niven, Kerr, and Flora Robson all shine in their respective roles.  I thought David Hemmings and Sharon Tate were both remarkable in what they were given to do.  I think Tate had real promise.  It's a shame she met Roman Polanski and moved to Hollywood. I have a bizarre fondness for Tate's performance in Valley of the Dolls.  Edith Efron (the evil beeyotch who wrote a nasty article about Grayson in TV guide) interviewed Tate for an infamous Look magazine spread on Dolls and implied that Tate was a brainless bimbo.

So far as I know, Eye of the Devil is not available on video or DVD.  It's a pity, because I think it is a beautifully crafted film.  It is really a mood piece that evokes the inner power that lives within the Earth, and how people in traditional communities hold that power and the sacrifices they make to honor that strength and to allow their communities to survive.  It was of course far too thoughtful and unusual a film to achieve any real critical recognition, then or now.

I'll bet David Niven and Deborah Kerr wish this had become better known than Casino Royale, a fun fluffy film they did together shortly after this.

Best wishes,

Steve

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Current Talk '03 I / Re:Confused by Men...
« on: June 12, 2003, 03:28:33 PM »
Hey Gerard, I hate football, and just the thought of bratwurst makes me hurl, so guess I had better cross Wisconsin off my list of places to visit!

There's a scene early in the Leviathans storyline where Julia sits down with Chris and explains what she learned while she was in 1897 about his lineage.  She basically tells him that the werewolf curse only passes down to the eldest male in each line, and she informs him of his descent from Quentin Collins. This leads to how Quentin was able to escape the curse, which leads to the search for "Harrison Monroe," etc.

Steve

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Current Talk '03 I / Re:Carolyn's Make-Up
« on: June 12, 2003, 03:20:36 PM »
Guys--it was the Sixties!!  Just have a look at old fashion mags from the period.  They seldom got into the really outrageous stuff on Dark Shadows, like the little pearls pasted under the eyelids, or the extra-curl false eyelashes.

The same goes for the hair.  I was just watching I Dream of Jeannie last weekend.  What went on with Barbara Eden's hairpieces on that show makes Angelique's PT 1970 hair look quite restrained by comparison!

I'm now totally confused about what topics belong here.  I would have thought this topic would have belonged on current chat?  I've basically given up trying to understand.  As dear Grayson once comment, "Who can figure anything?"  Definitely applies to these boards.

Love to all, Gothick

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Great, hilarious comments as always, my dear.

Forget Sabrina--I found it beyond belief that *Chris* didn't just do a flying tackle on Bruno.  Maybe he'd have gotten a bit slashed up from that knife, but Briscoe's build and body weight are such a huge advantage over Stroka's spindly physique that it was really hard to believe that Chris didn't just deal with him then and there.

Chris didn't want to marry Sabrina because he was secretly carrying a torch for Quentin. Don't you know the Collins family motto, "Incest is best"?  It cames right below "Hypocrisy before all" as Miss Carolyn Collins Stoddard so brilliantly expostulated a few weeks back.

btw I love the titles of William Hollingshead Loomis' novels.  Somebody had fun with those.  Sam, maybe?

Steve

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Current Talk '03 I / Re:Liz's worst dress?
« on: June 10, 2003, 09:22:38 PM »
I actually love that dress because it is so HORRIFYING!

what is a hoot is that it was at least 3 years old at this point. She wore it in the infamous 1967 seance episode.

It's kind of like seeing Grayson's most horrible outfits from 1968 resurface in the Summer 1970 sequence.

Steve

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Calendar Events / Announcements '03 I / Re:Scream of the Wolf
« on: June 10, 2003, 06:46:00 PM »
Scream of the Wolf--was Barbara Rush in that?  I'm wondering whether it was this hysterical "ABC TV Movie of the Week" I enjoyed back in the historical 70s (aka the Late Bronze Age).

Sounds like fun!

Gothick

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You know, I used to know this Italian lady who absolutely adored this stuff that sort of began where blue cheese left off. I remember coming across her in the kitchen one afternoon slavering over a plate of this very odd looking substance that was a rather lurid shade of aquamarine crooning, "Rrrrotten cheese... theee more rrrotten eet ees, theee more I LUFF eet!"  It was like a scene in a Hammer film.

What you say about the current phase of Dark Shadows makes me wonder if I have something in common with Stella.  Some of my favorite moments on the show are still to come.  I think Parallel Time was a great concept and an ingenious solution to the logistical difficulties posed by having most of the central characters taking a 6 to 8 week hiatus from the series.  I personally feel that PT 1970 holds up better than 1840, which started out so well and then seemed to sort of unravel halfway through.

Definitely agree with you about Barn's obsession with entering the PT world.  I think we were supposed to be reading between the lines and presuming him to be in some sort of fugue state because of things going wrong with the drugs Julia was pumping into him. Sedative, anyone?  (which reminds me, one of my favorite lines in the entire series is coming up very shortly)

I'm very, very clear that I wouldn't want to be anywhere near enough to touch Barnabas or Julia with a barge pole at this point in real life. But I LOVE watching their antics on the Tube.  It is a strangely refreshing escape from the hijinks indulged in by some of my near and dear ones in RL.

Gothick

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Current Talk '03 I / Re:Confused by Men...
« on: June 09, 2003, 02:00:00 PM »
Well, thanks for sharing that comment from Ms. Parker, Midnite.  I must say I find this baffling.  I thought the Vampiress Angelique arc was one of Lara's favorites, and she had a LOT to do with Joel during that storyline.

I guess Katie and Lara don't spend much time reading the books that have been published with their names on them!

G.

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Current Talk '03 I / Re:Confused by Men...
« on: June 07, 2003, 10:32:01 PM »
Hi Patti,

Joel Crothers played Joe Haskell, who was Carolyn's boyfriend when the series began in 1966.

When Tom and Chris were introduced, Joe was said to be related to their family as a cousin (presumably on his Mom's side?).

Well, you know how complicated these New England genealogies can get ...

As for Babs Steele's comment about Grayson, I can't recall exactly in which interview she said that; it might have been this glossy magazine that did a feature on the 1990 DS series--Fangoria, maybe?

Steve

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