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Current Talk '03 II / Re:The New DARK SHADOWS?
« on: November 13, 2003, 09:51:14 PM »
I personally prefer Marlowe.  And John Webster... the Duchess of Malfi is a fabulous play, perhaps one of the very greatest plays in the English language.

Not to say that Willie the Shake is chopped liver, of course.

G.

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Current Talk '03 II / Re:How Did Angelique Get Her Powers?
« on: November 13, 2003, 06:27:22 PM »
I'm sure that the Bedford named in those 1840 episodes was meant to be a Maine town or village near C'port.  Julia travels there and back within the space of an afternoon and evening, so I sort of imagine it being right next to C'port--perhaps on the other side from where they situate Rockport, a neighboring town of which we do hear quite a bit over the years.

I don't have a map of Maine handy, so can't tell whether there are actual towns that bear the names Rockport and Bedford in Maine. We have both here in Mass.  The town names tend to repeat through the New England states--Salem, Plymouth, etc.  You get the drill.

G.

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Hi Sandor!  welcome to the Madhouse.

Maybe we can feed the Mysterious Benefactor some Belgian chocolate and persuade him to put Don's *hot* 16 magazine spread up here.

It's always good to have another Briscoe fan here!

Steve

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Calendar Events / Announcements '03 II / Hot Naked Chris Jennings Photos?
« on: November 10, 2003, 08:16:48 PM »
Anybody got anything?  I'm dying here.

I'll settle for a screen capture from Don Briscoe's shower soap commercial.

It's been TOO LONG since we have enjoyed the glorious sight of Briscoe in the daily montages!!

TTFN,  Steve

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Current Talk '03 II / Re:Slipping into Satanism
« on: November 10, 2003, 06:00:44 PM »
Luciaphil, I've said it before but I'll say it again--I *love* what you did with the character of Edith in your Education of Judith Collins series.  Would love to see more of the series at some point.  I found it a wonderfully subtle work of literature--psychologically very complex.

I haven't seen the episode in which Edith is inducted into the coven by Gerard in many years.  I remember it as being a lot more off-the-cuff than I would have liked.  It should have been shocking and blasphemous, but it felt like Edith going for a roll in the hay with snaggle-toothed, well-hung Mr. G., followed by an invitation to join his canasta club the following Wednesday.

Like I said, it's been years, but that's how I remember it.

I was disappointed that Edith seemed to fall in love with Gerard.  I thought she should have been shown to have been enjoyed the cheap thrills he afforded in the sack, but I inferred her real interest to have been in the powers to which he gave her access.  Seems to make better sense with what we saw of Edith in 1897, but the writers seem to have been going on their usual assumption that we all had amnesia about that.  After all, it had been two years before, and as Ronnie Reagan once sputtered (in a scene that presumably will be snipped out of that troublesome docudrama), "who can remember what they were doing two years ago?"  or two hours ago, Ronnie.

G.

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Current Talk '03 II / Re:Montage Question
« on: November 07, 2003, 11:23:05 PM »
Darling, you and I are definitely in agreement about the "infamy" of the Bruno-flogs-wolfie scene.  I really wish there were a tape recording of the conversation between the director, Stroka, and the stuntman who played the werewolf that day!  I wonder whether the cameramen got instructions a la Elvis on Ed Sullivan not to move the cameras below the belt for Stroka!

I also thought that scene of Bruno, Sabrina, and Chris made for a hilarious commentary/counterpoint to the flogging scene.  Chris looked like he was rolling his eyes as Sabrina and Bruno bickered about just who among Mr. Jennings' admirers had the biggest, baddest, highest hair!

Thanks for helping to add a much needed note of gaiety to my Friday,

G.

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Gerard, you have a fiercely ruling, gloriously twisted sense of humor!

thanks for the Thursday morning chuckle.  It was sorely needed.

Steve

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Current Talk '03 II / Re:How Did Angelique Get Her Powers?
« on: November 06, 2003, 04:08:04 PM »
But who will the publisher be?  surely not HarperCollins.

G.

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Current Talk '03 II / Re:How Did Angelique Get Her Powers?
« on: November 05, 2003, 11:14:35 PM »
There is a line of dialogue in Cassandra's very first episode in 1968 where she is talking to Barn's portrait and she informs him that she would never have found out that he had escaped her curse, if it had not been for Victoria Winters' time trip to 1795.

That's really all the info we are given.  It seems to be implied that Ange is working through a noncorporeal form, first through her portrait, then possessing Roger, until she (we presume from dialogue many weeks later between Cass and Nicky) she makes a "bargain" with Nicholas and Diabolos/Balberith and is able to return in flesh form as Cassandra.  I also recall a line or two about how much Cassandra is enjoying being in a body again--it may have been one of Nicholas' comments about why she is so obviously dragging her feet.

FWIW, I recall that at the time of the original b'cast, I simply accepted that the Angelique who appeared in 1840 was somehow the "original" Angelique who lacked knowledge of the future because for her, it simply had not happened yet.  I was never one of those who kept DS diaries, so a lot of the inconsistencies I notice watching it on VHS as an adult went right over my head at the time.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '03 II / Barnabas Collins Halloween costume
« on: November 05, 2003, 09:36:19 PM »
A friend sent me this link, and I noticed that on the far left of row 2 on this page, there is a small photo of the Barnabas Collins Halloween costume:

http://www.retrocrush.com/archive2003/costumes/tv.html

I seem to recall reading about this costume years ago, and how impossible it is to find.  I would think that the cheap, rapidly deteriorating materials these costumes were made of would put a fairly low ceiling on their market value, but apparently that is not the case.

There are some weird and tacky attempts at costumes here, including several from other TV shows that I know are popular among DS fans, such as Samantha from Bewitched, Morticia from The Addams Family, the Groovy Ghoulies (shown on another page,) etc.  Everyone will have their "most bizarre" item--I think my choice is for the truly frightening Laura Ingalls Wilder costume.  The weird "Greg Brady" outfit is a close runner-up, I have to say.

G.

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Testing. 1, 2, 3... / Re:New Windows Worm on the Move
« on: November 04, 2003, 09:49:00 PM »
Thanks for that alert, Lovely One.  Agree that I would delete the entire mess on sight.  It boggles what's left of my mind that computer users STILL open random attachments like this.  I guess part of the problem is folks using email handling software that opens the attachments automatically--really not a good idea.

I was bemused by the widget "bh" in that text.  Was this supposed to be an inversion of "hb," a revolting shorthand for "husband" that's acquired a deplorably widespread currency on the Internet?

G.

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Current Talk '03 II / Re:That Number Should Be Retired
« on: November 04, 2003, 05:53:50 PM »
Hi Mark, I saw your original post, and didn't think there was any problem with the tone, if you meant the comment you had made about wanting independent confirmation apart from my often-faulty memory.  Anyhow, I see that one of the mods pulled the original post, so at least you won't need to worry about it next time you're here.  Sorry to hear you haven't been getting your sleep.  Hope you can get some rest!

One site years ago where I saw something about Kate Jackson playing a Tracy character in the 1971 storyline was this great site that Michael Miozza put up that was going to be a continuation of DS as it might have been had the series gone on.  He was only able to write 7 installments, I believe, and I don't know whether the site still exists; I think there used to be a link to it from his DS Movies site, which I loved as well.

There's oodles of not-very-well-organized trivia about DS in the revised edition of the DS Almanac--perhaps there is something about proposals for Kate Jackson's future on the series in there.  It would be interesting to know what plans were made for future roles for Keith Prentice, as well--he mentioned having signed a "five year contract" for DS in an interview (something that made me raise my eyebrows).

G.

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Current Talk '03 II / Re:How Did Angelique Get Her Powers?
« on: November 03, 2003, 11:07:08 PM »
Well, Vlad, last time I watched the episodes that involved the first spell we see Ange casting--on Barn's Rev War toy soldier--I'm afraid I laughed when the poor dear couldn't get the knot undone when she was trying to reverse the spell.

Tying knots is very much Craft 101.  Then there's her notorious difficulty with Basic Banishment.  She raises a ghost (Jeremiah) to perform a simple task and then can't rid of him?  In her defense, the ghost eventually goes away when the writers can't think of what to do next with him, but it reflects very badly on her skill level at this point.

I actually think it makes the story more interesting when Ange is barely competent and you see her trying hard to learn from her own mistakes.  Later on, when she becomes "Super Witch," it's not so interesting.  Of course, even at the height of her powers on the show, she was never capable of pulling some of the feats ascribed to her by some fan writers, such as the role Warren Oddson gives her in his articles in the DS Concordances published by Kathleen Resch.

In 1968, Cassandra seems a lot more powerful, confident, and assured in her Craft than 1795 did.  Her problem then is her tendency to indulge her own sadism--watch 'em twist in the wind when she could be getting the job done. That is what leads to her eventual downfall, although it could be argued as well that the Dream Curse was an unnecessarily clumsy, over-involved piece of spellcraft.  It's hard to tell with that whether she was motivated by the desire to see people like Maggie and Mrs. Johnson suffer on the way to achieving her goal, or whether she simply did not know any better, quicker way of getting the job done.

G.

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Current Talk '03 II / Re:That Number Should Be Retired
« on: November 03, 2003, 08:55:30 PM »
I remember having seen a mention somewhere or other that a present-day 1971 story had been plotted (presumably at some point in the Fall of 1970 before the EP decided to pull the plug) in which Jackson was going to play a character named Tracy who arrived at Collinwood and attracted Quentin's attention.  Can't recall whether she was supposed to be the new governess, though.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '03 II / Re:CBS at 75
« on: November 03, 2003, 07:18:32 PM »
Oh Gods, no wonder that one armed ghost's appendage looked so naggingly familiar.  I'd get a sort of familiar itch every time I played that episode. Same deal with the hunky hangman at Vicki's execution.

I always thought Groh was so delectably hairy and, well, generous on Rhoda.  (did you know she had a pagoda?)

beyond fried post Halloween G.

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