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Current Talk '04 I / Re:Thayer David Info Wanted
« on: February 07, 2004, 12:19:52 AM »
What do you want to know?

Born in Medford (a suburb of Boston)--real name was David Thayer Hersey--family made money in paper mill biz.

Went to Harvard and helped found Brattle Theatre.  Was in the same circle as poet Frank O'Hara and artist Edward Gorey in the late 1940s.  Did lots and lots of theatre, including Shakespeare and classical roles.

Had lots of character roles in films, but also had big career doing voiceovers for radio commercials in the Sixties.

Married film actress Valerie French.  The marriage didn't last, but apparrently their friendship did.

Alex Moltke Isles mentions that he carried a torch for her while they were working on Shadows together.  Presumably, his warmth helped her endure some of the difficult scenes they had together in his first storyline.  Jonathan Frid mentioned that even though Thayer was basically the same age as himself and Louis, he was very avuncular and caring of all of them.  Grayson knew Thayer professionally before Shadows, and she was a friend of his wife's.  KLS enjoyed Thayer's company a lot.  There's a wonderful series of photos of Thayer and her out antiquing taken by Ben Martin during the Sixties, in the original "My Scrapbook Memories of DS"--I wish those photos had been retained in the revision.

Some of his post Shadows work is really worth checking out.  My favorite is his version of Nero Wolfe.  When will it be released on any format???

Steve

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Current Talk '04 I / Re:Favorite Character
« on: February 05, 2004, 07:45:55 PM »
Call me fickle, but I can never have just one favorite of anything.  (don't ask my views about monogamy, lol)

Among my favorites are Julia (if I had to name just one favorite, it would be her), Liz (especially pre-1968 Liz), the freres Jennings (hubba hubba!), Magda, any character played by Thayer David (but especially Professor Stokes, Count Petofi, and PT 1970 Stokes), Hoffman the housekeeper (I love watching her torture Maggie, yes I am a certified sick puppy), and the original 1897 Quentin Collins (especially pre-curse).

Cassandra Collins deserves, nay, DEMANDS her own category.  Those dresses!  Those death-glares!  Those WIGS!

There are lots of other favorite characters--1966 Carolyn, Pansity Trask, Madam Findlay, Bathia Mapes...

Oh and CLAUDE NORTH!

G.

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Criseyde, that's a gorgeous image, and the perfect way to celebrate Selby-day!

G.

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I believe I've dealt with Varietease, Darren.  If memory serves, I purchased a "Run across the river" poster from him a few years back.

Congrats on the arrangements going through for your presentation!  I'm really excited by the prospect of being able to attend.  I just hope the dates work for me this year.

Steve

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Belated but warm birthday wishes to a fabulous writer, wonderful researcher, sterling librarian, and all around great gal!

Au reservoir,

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '04 I / Re:Happy Birthday Bette!
« on: February 04, 2004, 09:18:48 PM »
Happy Birthday, Bette!  ::cues "Happy Birthday" chorale::

Pepe turns, slightly irritated, to dumpy guy in the front row and snaps, "Sit DOWN, Louie, I've HEARD you sing!"

Many happy returns,

Steve

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Calendar Events / Announcements '04 I / Re:Films with DS cast members
« on: February 04, 2004, 07:04:55 PM »
Thayer David is really good in Savages, which also stars Chris Pennock.  The movie itself is very odd but I enjoyed seeing it.

Not a film, but I really enjoyed Lara's guest role on Kojak: The Night Stalker.  I think the title of her episode is something like The Trevi Connection.  Nina Foch is in it, as well, and the episode sort of winks at both the dark Forties B-horror films in which Nina Foch got her start, and Lara Parker's work on Dark Shadows.

Satan in High Heels is one of my top ten movies of all time, for Grayson's performance and for the look and feel of the movie--great soundtrack, too.  She was nominated for an Oscar in Iguana, and none of those big H'wood stars got noms, so I always cackle a bit when I think of that.  It's cute that Gargoyles was mentioned; I was just thinking of that film the other day.  I also love GH's moments in Adam at Six A. M. (she plays Michael "Mikey" Douglas' busybody, meddling aunt); End of the Road (short but bittersweet); and the DC produced telefilm, The Great Ice Ripoff, in which she's quietly effective as the wife of a retiring detective.

I really wish "Back to Back" would be made available.  It's a 52 minute drama shot in color in 1965. Grayson played the imperious, snobbish head of an exclusive resort, opposite Shelley Winters and Jack Hawkins as a pair who were trying to get jobs on her staff.  It was shown in Oct. 1965 on the "Bob Hope Chrysler Theatre" show.  My attempts at finding a copy have gone absolutely nowhere.

Joan Bennett's scenes in Suspiria are fun--I find that film otherwise unwatchable, but I'm in a small minority on that--most people rate it as a classic.

There's more... but who knows where the time goes?

G.

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Current Talk '04 I / Re:parlez vous francais?
« on: February 04, 2004, 05:50:18 PM »
Wow, the Boards are back!  ga-roovy!

I remember this scene very well, having played it several times.  What I remember of the dialogue is that Angelique and Josette greet one another, and Angelique complains about how cold it is at Collinwood.

It's really not that much.  The actresses only had a couple of hours to work on the scene, obviously, so they didn't give them a whole lot.

I did think that the way KLS spoke as Josette had a certain lilt that suggested English was not her native language.  It's subtle, but it's there.  Grayson spoke French fluently but also opted to speak with a slightly unusual emphasis that suggested hauteur rather than the specifics of the French language.

The disastrousness of trying to get thesps to do the accent is shown very plainly in the unspeakable awfulness of Lysette Anthony's vocalizing as Angelique in the 1990 mounting of the series.  I mean, honestly, how seriously can you take a curse that starts out "EAR me, BAH-rr-na-bas!"  To be fair, Anthony was competing with Barbara Steele, who could do a French accent and make it sound like the most natural thing in the world.  Rather like racing a clapped-out nag against a thoroughbred mare in her prime.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '04 I / Re:OT<Soap Net
« on: January 16, 2004, 12:32:52 AM »
On a related topic, if there's ever news about SoapNet airing the 1982-83 episodes of OLTL on which Grayson appeared, I would appreciate knowing about it (and discussing arrangeing to get copies of tapes!!).

Good luck everybody--hope DS has a good prospect of finding a new home on SoapNet.  It does need a home on current broadcast television.

G.

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Current Talk '04 I / Re:Ep #525
« on: January 15, 2004, 04:35:19 PM »
Hi Robin!  did you mean to type 1969 there?

Many thanks to DarkShadowyFigure for revealing yet another cut on the DVDs!  I wonder just how many there are.

I wish that an UNCUT, unremastered version of the original videos would be released.  At least with DVD recorders starting to come down in price, fans who have all the MPI tapes can make their own.

At least, those who didn't toss their videos when they began acquiring the DVDs, on the mistaken belief that the DVDs were pristine copies of the original series content, can do so...

Holding on to my old tapes,

G.

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Current Talk '04 I / Re:How & when you discovered Dark Shadows
« on: January 14, 2004, 04:27:40 PM »
Hi Connie and Rainey, I'd love to see old episodes of Where the Action is!  From voiceovers on the early MPI collectors series tapes, I gather it followed DS at 4 in the afternoon.  They may have promoted DS on that show's commercial breaks during June 1966 and that may be how you found out about it.

I love watching old rock and roll shows from that era.  I just got some 1967 tapes of a German show called the Beat Club and, believe me, the groovy threads those guys were wearing made *me* shriek, though perhaps not in the way you intended.

cackling obscenely,

Gothick

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Current Talk '04 I / Re:How & when you discovered Dark Shadows
« on: January 13, 2004, 10:03:38 PM »
I found out about it the Summer I turned 10.  It was the last year my Mom hired a babysitter to be with my sister and me (she's a year younger than me) during the day in the Summer.  Judy was a teenager in high school and was obsessed with DS.  She told us stories about Barnabas and Angelique and drew a very clever copy of Angelique's portrait on a blackboard we had in our basement.  I well remember her talking about how beautiful Angelique was... and how evil.  I think she also talked about the time when Dr. Hoffman tried to cure Barnabas and he aged.

Judy was only around part of the afternoon, and she left before 4, but after a few days I decided to check out DS.  The first episode I saw was from a few days before the current 1968 start point.  It was when Sam Evans died and Prof. Stokes kept him from revealing the Dream Curse to Vicki.  Next day was Cassandra's exorcism by Trask's ghost and boy, was I hooked!  I had never seen anything like this on TV before.

It all happened back in June 1968.

G.

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Luciaphil's Idle Thoughts '04 / Re:Dark Shadows: The Movie!
« on: January 09, 2004, 07:20:06 PM »
For the most part, I agree with your estimation of this pilot episode.

It's OK as entertainment.  For me, it just doesn't work as Dark Shadows.

I thought the real badness of the series came in the actual episodes, particularly when they moved to 1790 and started flashing backwards and forwards to then and the 1990 story.  This was a bee that flew out of the bonnet of some tiresome executive at NBC.  Apparently, he thought it would make the pace more exciting.  It didn't.

Agree absolutely about Jean Simmons as Liz, and Roy Thinnes as Roger isn't much better, although very good on the eyes I must say.

I don't remember Michael Cavanaugh at all, sorry to say.

S.

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Luciaphil's Idle Thoughts '03 / Re:A Darkness at Blaisedon
« on: January 09, 2004, 07:08:57 PM »
What fun to have you back, my dear.  And in fine form, too!

I quite enjoy Blaisedon.  I actually recall the original broadcast back in 1969.  It was shown in a nighttime slot and I recall the TV Guide entry stating it was a pilot for a series that wasn't picked up.  This has been discussed in at least one of the PomPress books, as well, I'm sure.

It was funny how much of it came back to me from that single 1969 viewing when I first saw it as an adult.  For example, when the Cal Bellini character was opening the mummy-case, I knew there was going to be dialogue about death by fire in the script that had a point to it.

Cal Bellini was good.  Stroka would have brought a creepy edge to the character.  Dusay and Mathews deserve marks for running with material they probably found, to say the least, a bit odd when it wasn't hackneyed.

Thayer really stole the show in his role.  Louis was divine, what little we saw of him.  I love Bob Cobert's music no matter what is going on onscreen.

I don't own this, but have seen it a couple of times, mostly at friends' homes.  I've pondered ordering it over the years.

Best, Steve

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Current Talk '04 I / Re:1968 Montage (I'm thinking of some of you)
« on: January 09, 2004, 05:59:41 PM »
Isn't it the episode where Julia brings Quentin/Grant to Collinwood and his old room and plays his favorite record for him?

rather a sweet scene...

Fabulous work, Connie!  I love the first image. Classic Julia.

G.

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