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Current Talk '04 I / Re:Hey! was Jonathan Frid sexy?
« on: February 17, 2004, 03:51:18 PM »
Even though they were very different characters, I think Barnabas and Mr. Spock had some things in common in terms of the way fans reacted to them back in the Sixties.  Spock was so cool, intellectual, and controlled, it really seemed to fan the flames for a lot of viewers, and the writers were wise to include a couple of characters onscreen who could act out that passionate response--notably Christine Chapel, incarnated by the fabulous Majel.

With Barnabas, I think the way Frid played him with those silent, big brown eyes staring in anguish up at the sky, brought a quality of what back then we called "soul" to the character.  And, in the Sixties, Soul was very, very sexy!  I think how fans reacted to Barnabas was due entirely to Frid's performance, particularly the non-verbal parts (though his voice was very alluring, especially at moments when he was more confident and in control of the material).  On paper, Barnbas was a regular cad in the beginning, and even in his most altruistic moments could always drop everything if he got some Sweet Young Thing in his sights.  On screen, with Frid's performance, the character was transformed, and fans voted across the nation by keeping glued to their TV sets at 4 p.m. every afternoon.

Thinking about what a huge impression Spock and Barnabas made back in the Sixties and looking at today's teen crushes--Justin Timberlake, Tom Welling, a bunch of other guys whose names escape me--really slaps me in the face with how much times have changed since then.

G.

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Current Talk '04 I / Paraskevidekatriaphobia Day Montage
« on: February 13, 2004, 04:24:30 PM »
MB,you've well and truly topped yourself with this latest montage!  If you've rolled it out on previous Friday the 13ths, I've missed it.  Great selection of scenes.  It looks as if several of my favorite episodes were aired on this day.  Leave it to DS to rise to the occasion of Black Friday!

G.

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Current Talk '04 I / Re:You AXED for It!!!!
« on: February 12, 2004, 05:42:51 PM »
Misterioso Darling,

what a FABULOUS closeup of Our Favorite Witch!  She really shows how it's done!

As for the caption, I had something in mind like " I WARNED you, Roger Davis, that this would be the LAST time you bumped me off camera!"

I do enjoy teasing, 'tis true.  Which is why the postal code for a certain state to our south often brings a smirk to my lips--and I'm not thinking of Rhode Island!

cackling,  Steve

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Current Talk '04 I / You AXED for It!!!!
« on: February 12, 2004, 02:50:45 PM »
Forgot to say yesterday that in the Montage (which is probably about to go away once el Misterioso hits the saddle), I just cackle away at the shot of Cassandra with that axe.

It's a moment of classic DS melodrama in the actual episode when her voiceover is talking about "it must be done in a mortal way" and you expect something like chloroform, cyanide, or a .45, and then that big axe swings into view!  And the expression on Parker's face--Yowza!

I'd put a caption to the photo involving Roger Davis (a very good friend of Parker's in real life, btw), but I *know* it would violate Board protocol!

cackling away,  Steve

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Current Talk '04 I / Re:Maggie's mysterious guest..who is he?
« on: February 10, 2004, 03:26:24 PM »
Could it have been Timothy Gordon?

G.

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Current Talk '04 I / Re:If 1795 was done the way they originally intended.
« on: February 09, 2004, 03:24:07 PM »
I've wondered for years whether they moved the origins of Barnabas story to the 1790s because of the availability of costumes from the 18th century.   I know that sounds silly, but I keep wondering about that.

I believe there's a scene that aired less than a month before the start of 1795 where Barnabas is talking to Julia about Josette, and he goes into the whole thing with Jeremiah again, and she gets him to admit that Josette never loved him.  At this point, they did have the same writers who wound up writing 1795.  So my conclusion is that, as usual, it was DC and nobody else who was responsible for the abrupt switch in plan.

Since 1795 keeps getting touted as the best of all DS' storylines (not my personal opinion), I guess most fans would approve of DC's decisions, despite the substantial errors in continuity!

G.

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Current Talk '04 I / Re:Thayer David Info Wanted
« on: February 09, 2004, 03:17:39 PM »
Hi Connie, thanks for this link!  It was fun to read David's words about Grayson, Thayer, and of course, Johnny!

I do wish they would get someone to correct all the typos on that site, but you can't have it all, can you?

As I recall it, there's a slightly truncated version of the 1968 Ron Barry interview with Jonathan, Grayson, Humbert, Don Briscoe, Robert Rodan, and the unflappable Roger Davis (urghhh), on the Varese Sarabande reissue of the original Dark Shadows soundtrack album (the one from 1969).  They had a lot of room on that CD because the original LP was so short.

Unfortunately, the Thayer David Ron Barry interview has yet to be issued on CD, but a fan was kind enough to send me a tape of it, and I think Bobubas sells it, too.

Best,  G.

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Current Talk '04 I / Re:Thayer David Info Wanted
« on: February 06, 2004, 11:19:52 PM »
What do you want to know?

Born in Medford (a suburb of Boston)--real name was David Thayer Hersey--family made money in paper mill biz.

Went to Harvard and helped found Brattle Theatre.  Was in the same circle as poet Frank O'Hara and artist Edward Gorey in the late 1940s.  Did lots and lots of theatre, including Shakespeare and classical roles.

Had lots of character roles in films, but also had big career doing voiceovers for radio commercials in the Sixties.

Married film actress Valerie French.  The marriage didn't last, but apparrently their friendship did.

Alex Moltke Isles mentions that he carried a torch for her while they were working on Shadows together.  Presumably, his warmth helped her endure some of the difficult scenes they had together in his first storyline.  Jonathan Frid mentioned that even though Thayer was basically the same age as himself and Louis, he was very avuncular and caring of all of them.  Grayson knew Thayer professionally before Shadows, and she was a friend of his wife's.  KLS enjoyed Thayer's company a lot.  There's a wonderful series of photos of Thayer and her out antiquing taken by Ben Martin during the Sixties, in the original "My Scrapbook Memories of DS"--I wish those photos had been retained in the revision.

Some of his post Shadows work is really worth checking out.  My favorite is his version of Nero Wolfe.  When will it be released on any format???

Steve

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Current Talk '04 I / Re:Favorite Character
« on: February 05, 2004, 06:45:55 PM »
Call me fickle, but I can never have just one favorite of anything.  (don't ask my views about monogamy, lol)

Among my favorites are Julia (if I had to name just one favorite, it would be her), Liz (especially pre-1968 Liz), the freres Jennings (hubba hubba!), Magda, any character played by Thayer David (but especially Professor Stokes, Count Petofi, and PT 1970 Stokes), Hoffman the housekeeper (I love watching her torture Maggie, yes I am a certified sick puppy), and the original 1897 Quentin Collins (especially pre-curse).

Cassandra Collins deserves, nay, DEMANDS her own category.  Those dresses!  Those death-glares!  Those WIGS!

There are lots of other favorite characters--1966 Carolyn, Pansity Trask, Madam Findlay, Bathia Mapes...

Oh and CLAUDE NORTH!

G.

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Criseyde, that's a gorgeous image, and the perfect way to celebrate Selby-day!

G.

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I believe I've dealt with Varietease, Darren.  If memory serves, I purchased a "Run across the river" poster from him a few years back.

Congrats on the arrangements going through for your presentation!  I'm really excited by the prospect of being able to attend.  I just hope the dates work for me this year.

Steve

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Belated but warm birthday wishes to a fabulous writer, wonderful researcher, sterling librarian, and all around great gal!

Au reservoir,

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '04 I / Re:Happy Birthday Bette!
« on: February 04, 2004, 08:18:48 PM »
Happy Birthday, Bette!  ::cues "Happy Birthday" chorale::

Pepe turns, slightly irritated, to dumpy guy in the front row and snaps, "Sit DOWN, Louie, I've HEARD you sing!"

Many happy returns,

Steve

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Calendar Events / Announcements '04 I / Re:Films with DS cast members
« on: February 04, 2004, 06:04:55 PM »
Thayer David is really good in Savages, which also stars Chris Pennock.  The movie itself is very odd but I enjoyed seeing it.

Not a film, but I really enjoyed Lara's guest role on Kojak: The Night Stalker.  I think the title of her episode is something like The Trevi Connection.  Nina Foch is in it, as well, and the episode sort of winks at both the dark Forties B-horror films in which Nina Foch got her start, and Lara Parker's work on Dark Shadows.

Satan in High Heels is one of my top ten movies of all time, for Grayson's performance and for the look and feel of the movie--great soundtrack, too.  She was nominated for an Oscar in Iguana, and none of those big H'wood stars got noms, so I always cackle a bit when I think of that.  It's cute that Gargoyles was mentioned; I was just thinking of that film the other day.  I also love GH's moments in Adam at Six A. M. (she plays Michael "Mikey" Douglas' busybody, meddling aunt); End of the Road (short but bittersweet); and the DC produced telefilm, The Great Ice Ripoff, in which she's quietly effective as the wife of a retiring detective.

I really wish "Back to Back" would be made available.  It's a 52 minute drama shot in color in 1965. Grayson played the imperious, snobbish head of an exclusive resort, opposite Shelley Winters and Jack Hawkins as a pair who were trying to get jobs on her staff.  It was shown in Oct. 1965 on the "Bob Hope Chrysler Theatre" show.  My attempts at finding a copy have gone absolutely nowhere.

Joan Bennett's scenes in Suspiria are fun--I find that film otherwise unwatchable, but I'm in a small minority on that--most people rate it as a classic.

There's more... but who knows where the time goes?

G.

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Current Talk '04 I / Re:parlez vous francais?
« on: February 04, 2004, 04:50:18 PM »
Wow, the Boards are back!  ga-roovy!

I remember this scene very well, having played it several times.  What I remember of the dialogue is that Angelique and Josette greet one another, and Angelique complains about how cold it is at Collinwood.

It's really not that much.  The actresses only had a couple of hours to work on the scene, obviously, so they didn't give them a whole lot.

I did think that the way KLS spoke as Josette had a certain lilt that suggested English was not her native language.  It's subtle, but it's there.  Grayson spoke French fluently but also opted to speak with a slightly unusual emphasis that suggested hauteur rather than the specifics of the French language.

The disastrousness of trying to get thesps to do the accent is shown very plainly in the unspeakable awfulness of Lysette Anthony's vocalizing as Angelique in the 1990 mounting of the series.  I mean, honestly, how seriously can you take a curse that starts out "EAR me, BAH-rr-na-bas!"  To be fair, Anthony was competing with Barbara Steele, who could do a French accent and make it sound like the most natural thing in the world.  Rather like racing a clapped-out nag against a thoroughbred mare in her prime.

G.

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