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Thanks again for these, O Mysterious One.

I adore that close-up of a "tight-lipped" but lush-false-eyelashed Jooolia, giving that ratty Jeff Clark a piece of her mind!  "Get your a$$ in gear baby or it's back to Peoria for you, bag AND baggage!"  Guess I'm imagining Grayson bringing Pepe into the picture for that scene...

G.

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Current Talk '04 I / Re:Angelique..why do people LIKE this woman?
« on: April 05, 2004, 08:08:27 PM »
The fascination with Angelique is classic, and very simple.  Everybody loves a really good, no-holds-barred villain.  I thought Parker's work in the role went way beyond portrayal... she MOLDED Angelique to the unscrupulous, obsessed Witch we all loved to hate.  I think as Connie said, this was really true of all the DS actors and their characters.  At least it is certainly true of the people she mentioned, because they were simply very extraordinary actors.  The eccentric elan with which they lived their lives offstage bled through into the sizzle and spark they gave their characterizations before the cameras.

I can never really chose a favorite, but if I had to select a favorite Barnabas/Angelique scene, it would be the showdown between Cassandra and her erstwhile hubby in the Old House after Nicholas has removed her powers.  In less than a page of dialogue, they covered all the insanity of the emotional ups and downs these two went through with one another.  And both Parker and Frid played it brilliantly.  I still remember watching that as a child--glued to the tube doesn't begin to describe it!

G.

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Thanks, O Mysterious One, for reposting these.  You know how much I love to look...

And talking of that, boy is that a *steamy* close-up of Joe with eyes half-lidded and jaw slack with awakening fatal desire.  I'm having a lot of fun imagining what's going on below the frame.  Sultry!  (Yes, I know what was going on in the actual aired episode, but I have the feeling *my* version would not be without its fans--Connie, what say you?)

G.

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Current Talk '04 I / Re:A Date That Will Live in Infamy
« on: April 05, 2004, 03:55:10 PM »
Thanks for posting that, O Mysterious One.  I don't remember having seen it before (now, I may have seen it, but with the kind of amnesia I'm coping with, it's entirely likely that I did see it and have plum forgotten.  As my beloved Great Grandmother said:  "Don't git old!")

I had to laugh when reading that, given that the Dark Shadows ratings were going up again in February-March of 1971, and the ABC executive board members at the March board meeting expressed concern that the network was shutting down such a popular, high profile series.

Substitute "who had followed" with "who had worked upon" in your card, and it does get a bit closer to the truth...

G.

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Current Talk '21 I / Re:WB ORDERS FILMING OF NEW DS PILOT
« on: April 02, 2004, 10:35:51 PM »
Technically, I think what was posted on the BU site was a "treatment" rather than a script.  It contained a lot of dialogue, which of course could all get changed (let's pray devoutly for that consummation).  It was posted I think about a week after the "sides" that were used for the auditions.  Parenthetically, the "sides" included [spoiler]a scene similar to that in hoDS in which Julia confronts Barnabas at the Old House and offers him the possibility of a cure.  IIRC, that scene was not part of the pilot script, so presumably the "sides" included material from future scripts.  I don't think Julia is introduced in the pilot, which may be why her casting has yet to be announced.[/spoiler]

Trust me, darling--the treatment stank.  But I have to say it was par for the course for what I"ve seen of Angel, Tarzan, and Charmed on the WB, not to mention the later seasons of BTVS--all of which stank in my opinion, but have their fans...

G.

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Current Talk '21 I / Re:WB ORDERS FILMING OF NEW DS PILOT
« on: April 02, 2004, 09:46:02 PM »
Hey Jennifer, no, you're not alone in being less than thrilled with all this.  I personally have adopted a wait and see attitude about all of it.  Given the talent they're raking in for it, I'm becoming morbidly curious about just how awful it might be.  It could turn out to be an unintentionally hilarious send-up, particularly with "Molly Dodd" as Liz and "Muad-dib"as Barnabas, especially if they are using the script posted on Barnabas-Undead.  Ever imagine DS with Keno and IHOP jokes?  Well, fasten your seat belts.

And who knows, maybe the Frog Fromage crew will surprise us all and create something more exciting than we could ever have imagined!  I must confess that I don't hold out much hope for the latter.  I saw more than I would have cared to of the WB's hatchet job on Tarzan (my housemate became addicted to that thing), and I shudder to think of 9 weeks of something along these lines with a DS label stuck on it.

G.

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Current Talk '04 I / A Date That Will Live in Infamy
« on: April 02, 2004, 08:29:00 PM »
Fans, on this date back in 1971 (that's THIRTY-THREE YEARS ago, gang--makes some of us here feel OLD), the very last episode of Dark Shadows was aired.

It was a sad and strange occasion for many of us.  The final moments of the last episode did seem to hint that further stories might be in the wings, though at the very last darling Thayer David's voiceover informed us that the dark shadows that had plagued the Collins family were now a thing of the past.

Nevertheless, I tuned in the following Monday, only to see Password (a gameshow based on charades) in DS' time slot.  It was a truly miserable moment for me.  I remember sitting there staring at the cathode ray tube like a drowned rat.

I have friends who remember fellow students going door to door collecting signatures for petitions to keep the show on the air, as had been done for Star Trek a couple of years previously.  In my neighborhood, I don't remember anything like that.  Most of my friends had stopped watching the show during 1897 or Leviathans.

Anybody else recall stories of the DS cancellation?

G.

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Thanks, O Mysterious One, for the bounty of these updates.  I really look forward to them, especially since there has been so little discussion of the "current" 1968 episodes here.

I'll have to dig out my tape of 576.  I know I've seen it but the Liz dream sequence sounds like a hoot!  I've still been watching 1967... getting ready to revise my endless article about Grayson's work in that storyline...

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '04 I / Re:Chris Pennock in Hamlet
« on: April 01, 2004, 07:49:36 PM »
Wow.  This is fabulous news for Chris, and given his background, I'm sure he'll make a wonderful Claudius.

I look forward to seeing photos soon!

Thanks again--I missed this in the long long long Shadowgram email.

G.

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Current Talk '21 I / Re:WB ORDERS FILMING OF NEW DS PILOT
« on: March 31, 2004, 08:50:44 PM »
How amusing, Criseyde!

Sounds as if those six episodes (or however many have been commissioned) will be heavily recycling old storylines from the original series.

Just out of curiosity, did the Reuters story carry anything about storylines for Julia and Liz?  (One of my peeves about the 1991 effort was that Liz had NO storylines AT ALL.)

Steve

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I somehow forgot about The Addams Family (the original mid Sixties series with Carolyn Jones and John Astin).  I loved this before DS came on the scene and still love it to this day. That's one series I really wish would come out on DVD.

"Certain Shadows on the Wall" originally aired in late December 1970.  The filming actually happened during the Summer, in August I think.  Grayson had to tape an episode of DS the day she flew back from "the Coast" on an early a.m. redeye flight.  I'm convinced the wig she wore as Carlotta in NoDS was the same one she was given for her role on Night Gallery--she was told it had belonged to Rita Hayworth.

Unforgiveably, Grayson and Agnes have NO SCENES AT ALL together in this episode.  I do think that when the casting had been completed, Serling could have given them even a short scene together. Grayson does have several scenes with Rachel Roberts, an actress who was married to Rex Harrison and had a superb role in Peter Weir's cult classic, Picnic at Hanging Rock.

I'm sure that's far more than you wanted to know about Grayson's appearance on Night Gallery...

a certified Halloholic,

Gothick

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Calendar Events / Announcements '04 I / Re:Other Favorite TV Shows
« on: March 29, 2004, 11:00:26 PM »
Oh yeah, I also love Forever Knight, especially the first two years--that one also went downhill drastically in year 3.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '04 I / Re:Other Favorite TV Shows
« on: March 29, 2004, 10:46:57 PM »
Well, I love Strange Paradise, and I've seen nearly every episode, and so has a friend of mine.  So--we're out here!

The only post Seventies supernatural series I have enjoyed was Poltergeist: the Legacy.  Helen Shaver played a very intense psychologist with a sense of style and elan that I found worthy of Grayson Hall.  Derek de Lint had a sense of presence and nonverbal intensity reminiscent of Jonathan Frid, and Martin Cummins was a brooding Briscoe-licious hunk.  Robbi Chong was in it as well and was excellent, and so was Patrick Fitzgerald as a troubled priest.  After the second season it really slithered downhill fast, but the actors kept it fun to watch.

I like Boris Karloff's Thriller but it hasn't surfaced in over a decade.  I also liked Rod Serling's Night Gallery.  Fascinating scripts and beautiful casting.  Another one that was uneven but sometimes really quite good was the Sixth Sense, starring Gary Collins as a parapsychologist.  Both the series and the star seem to have vanished into a black hole.  It aired in the late Sixties and early Seventies.

G.

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Current Talk '04 I / Re:Shadows of the Vampire
« on: March 29, 2004, 08:28:26 PM »
Well, I agree with Jonathan Frid on this one. hoDS would have benefited from a lot more atmosphere and character development, and a lot less red stuff running out of every orifice onscreen.

As I've said before, as my sister and I were taking our seats in the theatre back in the Summer of 1970 when we saw the movie, I heard one guy ask his friend what he thought of it, and the latter summed the whole thing up with terse eloquence:  "lotsa teeth, lotsa blood."  Maybe that level of gratuitous violence helped make it a hit for MGM, but I have read that hoDS and the resulting parental protests led to a lot of ABC affiliates around the US dropping the series.

I read an interview that Mr. Frid gave in Baltimore's City Paper in the 1980s or 1990s, I believe, in which he characterized the violence in hoDS as pornographic (or words to that effect), and said that the "realism" of the movie robbed the story of its fantastic qualities that had made it so special in the first place.

I also have an interview with Grayson Hall from 1973 in which she says that Jonathan did not want to play a vampire any longer.  I wondered whether he had it written into his contract that he would not have to do any further fanging scenes on the show since there were none after the Roxanne storyline in 1840.

In my opinion, the hoDS director's preference for sensationalism over storytelling was also what ruined the 1991 Dark Shadows series, particularly as it went on in the later episodes.

G.

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David, that movie was already released out here in the East Coast a few weeks ago.  I saw it with my movie buddy.  It's kind of a mixed bag--some good strong performances (mainly from the two protagonists, and Jackie Bisset has a great supporting role as a world-weary restaurant owner), good camerawork, and an epically dreadful script--a lot of the speeches sound as if cribbed from Shirley Maclaine's self-help books of the 70s and 80s.

It does present a harrowing staging of a Mormon "treatment center" for gay children.  Pretty strong stuff.

Gordon-Leavitt certainly has grown up since his work on Dark Shadows and that other show.  His hair is short now.  He only has one good scene in this movie, but he does a wonderful job with it.  I hope he continues to find work on a par with his abilities.

cheers, Steve

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