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HI Connie, what a nice way of answering my question whether you managed to meet David on Sunday!  I'm just thrilled, and very happy for you.  Those eyes still have that "razzle-dazzle" (to borrow a leaf from Nancy Barrett's cabaret show).

The photo you snapped of me is such a sweet portrait, and I look about a million times better in it than I do in what is absurdly termed "real life."  I'd be honored to have you post it here.

hugs, Steve

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Current Talk '04 II / Darren's NoDS Presentation
« on: August 17, 2004, 05:12:51 PM »
Just a short note to say that of the programming at the Festival, by far the highlight for me was Darren's presentation of the footage he has recovered from the missing half hour (plus) of Night of Dark Shadows.

I must say, I was shocked to learn that one of the suits at MGM informed Sam Hall and Dan Curtis that he hated Grayson and wanted her entirely removed from the finished movie!  They had 24 hours to edit it down from the completed running time of 2 hours 7 minutes to 90 minutes so MGM could program it with Scream, Blacula, Scream in drive-ins.

Due to equipment issues, the footage did not play all that well in the ballroom, but Darren was kind enough to assure me that what he recovered is in pristine condition and, when the restoration is complete, will look as it would have done on premiere day in 1971!

Among the missings scenes, I enjoyed a tender boudoir moment between Quentin and Tracy, and the gloriously catty scene with Angelique at the piano (probably Diana Millay's best scene in the movie).  There was a great, long scene filmed on that railroad bridge between Quentin and Alex, which did a lot to define the strength and substance of the two men's friendship (I'll just say that I was whispering my own "text" to the dialogue to my neighbor during the screening!), and was beautifully photographed with some great close-ups of these two stunningly handsome actors.

He also found another cat-and-mouse scene between Carlotta and Tracy, and, for us Grayson fans, another scene between her and Quentin as well.

To my eye, however, the seance sequence is the most stunning of all.  It is undoubtedly the centerpiece which is what everything in the movie was leading towards, and the images even without soundtrack do a lot to make sense of what was happening throughout the rest of the movie. Cinematographically and dramaturgically, it may be the best piece of film Dan Curtis ever directed.  I can understand the bitter heartache he felt at being forced to remove it from the release print of the movie.

After the screening, Diana, John, David and Lara came onstage and shared some memories about making Night of Dark Shadows.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '04 II / Re: DS Festival Group Photo
« on: August 17, 2004, 03:02:29 PM »
Thanks for sharing those photographs, Cassandra.

The one of your Mom with our Johnny is absolutely adorable!  what a pair of sweethearts!

hugs, Steve

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Calendar Events / Announcements '04 II / Re: And last but not least...
« on: August 16, 2004, 10:52:13 PM »
Hi Anne, I will be very surprised if the next Festival does not happen somewhere in or around L.A., given that the last 2 have been in New York.

Perhaps they will continue this year's theme and have it near Greystoke Manor, or whatever that house is called that was used for the 1990 "Collinwood."

cheers,

Gothick

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Calendar Events / Announcements '04 II / Re: back from fest...
« on: August 16, 2004, 08:39:13 PM »
Hi Joey, well, I remember Diana saying she was going to tell a story on Sunday about the night she spent at Lyndhurst (for some reason, she wound up sleeping there--not sure why, or how).  Unfortunately I had to miss her appearance on Sunday.

I think she does remember some things from working on DS--just nothing to do with the plot.  Most of the actors don't remember any of the plots.  Even Lara Parker, who writes DS novels (and is almost finished a new one) couldn't remember answers to plot related questions lobbed at her by some of the fans.

I well remember a good friend of mine asking Lara what she thought of her time playing Cassandra. She gave him a blank look and said, emphatically, that she had no memory of playing anyone by that name!

I only tell this because Lara has actually watched some of the shows and done work on the storylines for her novels.  You can imagine how much less the other actors, who don't write DS fiction, would remember about the actual stories.

Another memory is of David Selby and John Karlen appearing on stage together a few years back in NYC.  Someone at the Festival had made a showcase video that was a string of clips of the two actors as Desmond and Quentin from the 1840 story.  Both of them were very impressed by this, and they both made remarks indicating that it was the first time they had seen these shows since 1970!  Selby kept talking about how good the show looked and how well all of it played.  I think it made him realize that there is a reason why some of us still enjoy watching these old tapes.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '04 II / Re: Photo 5
« on: August 16, 2004, 05:54:23 PM »
I think they're all ghastly.

Despite the wishes of my fellow Grayson fans, I am praying they do not do a Julia bobble-head doll.

If they decide to go ahead with one (and I think they are consider it because they make so much moolah off this kind of thing), I really hope they get an artist who has some modicum of artistic TALENT.

The Clay Doll Julia was witty and charming, so I know it can be done...

G.

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Current Talk '04 II / Re: Samantha Collins - Virginia Vestoff vs. KLS
« on: August 16, 2004, 05:19:10 PM »
A few points...

I think KLS underestimates how good she was in her early DS storylines.  I thought she was wonderful, especially in the Joe courtship storyline, and she really held her own when Maggie has to visit Collinwood for the first time to deal with the flack from "Pop's" dealings with the Collinses.  So many wonderful scenes here... I also thought she was excellent in the early Kitty scenes.

That said, I thought Vestoff was so good as Samantha, and I thought it was better to have a new actress to play the role because that way the writers did not have any subtextual stuff from all the previous work KLS had done on the series.  If KLS had stayed, and if she had played Samantha, I am sure she would have done fine, memorable work in the role.  However, by the time the actual scripts were written, KLS was gone.

There's a wonderful photo essay showing a typical day in Vestoff's working life in 1970 in Stuart Little's book, Off Broadway:  the Prophetic Theatre.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '04 II / Re: DS Festival Group Photo
« on: August 16, 2004, 04:12:48 PM »
Hi Cassandra, it was great meeting you!  You are such a cutie-pie!  Thanks for sharing the great photos!

Trip, Eric Gag me--is that with or without a spoon?  With that moniker and my putz, I just hope he does well with his skill at pitching those balls (excuse the bizarre grin that just twisted across my face).

This year's festival was a great time.  There was a wedding party sharing the hotel with us, which gave an extra bizarre twist to the proceedings--I'll spare you all my catty comments about wedding kulchur.

My personal favorite "event" was Darren's presentation of the NoDS footage.  I guess if no one else runs a thread on this, I will start one.  I just have to say that the seance sequence from NoDS was probably the best thing Dan Curtis ever did in his entire career, so I can understand the anguish he must have felt when the MGM bosses made him remove it.  I'll spare you the thoughts I had upon learning that one MGM boss made a point of saying he hated Grayson Hall and wanted her completely cut from the film. At least she got her revenge when SHE toured to promote it, in full Carlotta drag!  oh to have been a fly upon that wall.

G.

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Happy birthday!

I always get such a kick out of your knowledgable, fascinating posts.  Hope you have a day as special as you are!

Steve

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Midnite darling,

Hope your special day was as FABULOUS, GLAMOROUS and TERRIFIC as your sweet self!

HUGS, Steve

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I'm printing the story to read now.  It sounds interesting.  I never watched Beretta and never know Lara had a guest spot on the series.

I personally enjoyed Angelique's Descent, particularly the earlier chapters.  As with Wicked, I think there are weaknesses in the denouement prescribed by the source material for this character--I find both Angelique and Elphaba shrill simulacra of the characters established earlier in their respective stories in those final chapters.  I guess I am a more fastidious reader than is called for by the times in which we live, though (and being old and cranky, I suffer fools with less and less grace).

People point out glaring inconsistencies in how Angelique tells the events of 1795 in the novel; but, given what the series writers did to the original narrative in the later years of the show, I find myself more forgiving about her, um, 'interpretations" of the facts as we see them in her own book.

btw, the picture of Pan on the front page of this site is from the Cosmic Tribe Tarot deck--it's one of my favorite tarot decks, and you can see the other images at http://www.stevee.com  There is *a lot* of frontal nudity (male and female) on the cards--I guess I should warn people who have issues with the human body about that?

cheers, Gothick

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Calendar Events / Announcements '04 II / Re: Happy Birthday Bobubas!
« on: August 06, 2004, 04:02:15 PM »
Happy Birthday, Bob!

and from a fellow 40-something--good luck with the Grecian Formula for Men!  lol!!!

Steve

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Calendar Events / Announcements '04 II / Re: Happy Bday, jase
« on: August 05, 2004, 07:34:05 PM »
Well hey--Happy Birthday!

I raise a toast to your most cordial returns from the bar at Thorne's.

astrally,

Steve

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Current Talk '04 II / Re: The Divine One Strikes Again
« on: August 04, 2004, 05:31:29 PM »
Wow--another post-birthday treat for me with this thread.  Heather, those snaps are GORGEOUS!  I agree about Intrator's use of close-ups--one of the *many* reasons why I adore this movie!

Believe it or not, the filming happened around November 1960 (which made Meg Myles' swim sequence a frosty event for the actress).  That means GH was 37 when she did this.

There's a video kicking around fandom of an episode of an early 1950s TV show, Lights Out, in which she had a non-speaking role (but got some good close-ups).  She more than once described herself as a teenager "longing to play the ingenue but stuck with a whiskey-baritone voice... no boobs, no bottom" (I'm only half paraphrasing here).  Even in the early 1940s when she was doing summer stock, she was playing vampy, older woman roles.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '04 II / Re: Happy Birthday, Gothick!
« on: August 04, 2004, 04:16:30 PM »
Wow!  I'm ba-ack from a 10 day vay-kay (yes, tis true--the DNC drove me out of town--though I had actually planned the trip months ago).  Thank you all very much for your hearty, generous wishes!  On my birthday, I was at an idyllic farm in Ontario.  We had wonderful weather and I cooked a lasagna dinner, with chocolate cake for dessert, for a lovely group of people I adore.  It's a Philippine custom to cook dinner for your friends on your b-day--I'm not Filipino but I have fun with this custom on certain years... I ended the evening with a romantic, HOT (in EVERY sense of the word) wood sauna with my hunky boyfriend... mmmrrrrrowrrrr... (happy contended purring from Gothick).

While we were playing, I did hear an odd, echoing SHRIEK of indignation coming from far, far away... and I wondered just what it was--a wet kitty in a state of barely contained fury???  And now, looking at Connie's GENIUS artwork, I know who was haranguing me--Miss Judith Fellows, Chaperone Extraordinaire!

I'll make sure there's nothing sharp and pointed in reach on my next visit to tea with Our Judith!

Heather, you should write the Judith/Pepe story!  I LOVE IT!!!

And I want to see it SOON... you know what I mean, Missy... DON'T MAKE ME TAKE STEPS...

cackling yet again with delight,  Steve

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