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Stuart--what you say about the DS pilot sounds like Tim Burton's Sleepy Hollow, with a Dario Argento edge in the visuals.

I personally find this very different from DS, which I thought had a more muted quality to it, despite the occasional forays into the realm of Grand Guignol (Garth Blackwood--arrrrghhhh!)

I wish I had the chance to see the pilot and judge for myself.  I'll be surprised if it isn't eventually released on home video.

Steve

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Current Talk '04 II / Re: Jennings The Lusty Vampire
« on: September 15, 2004, 02:21:29 PM »
I love those captions!  I can't see any of the images, but I can *imagine* them.

I think one of my fave lines in this fabulous storyline is when Barn is yelling "Take it OFF, Julia!" He means her scarf, but oh the subtext...

There's an interview from a Baltimore paper in which Mr. Frid recalled Briscoe's performance as Tom as "practically pornographic" or words to that effect...

G.

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Current Talk '04 II / Re: Masques of the Plague in 1841 PT, Corman, etc.
« on: September 13, 2004, 04:27:12 PM »
Hi Vlad,

actually, the idea of a color corresponding to a specific "level" in an initiatory progress seems to me to have its roots in Magickal techniques for working the Tree of Life in the Qabalah.  I recommend this site for more details:

http://www.digital-brilliance.com/kab/

(Note:  Christian mystics spell this word cabala; Jewish scholars prefer kaballah; and Pagans and Witches like myself prefer Qabalah or Qabala.  I don't know how people who normally can't agree about anything managed to agree to keep these spellings separate.  I suppose it has to do with the source materials used by people in the various traditions.)

The use of Color in mystical and magickal symbolism has a far ranging application.  When Poe was writing, French mystic Eliphas Levi was publishing books that recorded his experiments with the occult, which were to have a far-reaching impact upon what eventually became the modern Occult movement.  In fact, I believe it was Levi who came up with the idea of using the word "occult" the way we use it today.

It sounds to me as if you need to get your Masque of the Red Death DVD exchanged.  As for Giuliana's dream, the motif of ritual death and rebirth is central in virtually ALL initiatory traditions.  A persistent bit of lore states that full initiation into the ancient Egyptian priesthood involved lying for 3 days and 3 nights in a sarcophagus.  There's a much more elaborate version of this in which the initiate survives several near-encounters with a spectacular painful and messy death during his ordeal

Best,  Steve

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Calendar Events / Announcements '04 II / Re: Interesting DVD Set 13 Review
« on: September 10, 2004, 06:27:22 PM »
Well after all the reviewer wrote, I hardly see how he/she can say DS wasn't a "great" show.

I did have to laugh at the catty comments about the interviews on the DVD.

G.

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Current Talk '04 II / Re: 1991 Series Questions
« on: September 10, 2004, 04:57:39 PM »
That's a great montage.  There are some wonderful shots of Barbara Steele in there.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '04 II / Re: we STILL love RobinV!!
« on: September 10, 2004, 04:06:33 PM »
Yes, I haven't seen Robin here in ages, and she did not show up at the Festival either. But she does post sometimes on the Julia List, so I think she is doing OK--just very busy, I would imagine, with her writing career.

Someone else from the old days I found myself thinking about unexpectedly yesterday--who knows why--was Ashenrider.  I can't remember his RL name anymore, but I will never forget his witty posts--there was one along the lines of "Grayson Hall--Hormel doesn't even come close!" that I recall responding to with comic outrage.

cheers, Gothick

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Connie honey, don't you know the rule about "never apologize and never explain"!  so, so sorry to hear about the Lyme disease taking a bad turn and the crap with the meds.  I will send you some distance Reiki tonight... hope it helps.

I had you quite strongly in my thoughts this a.m. on the way to work, so I'm not surprised to find such a nice note from you today.  I only wish the news were better.  I wish life would allow me to travel to your home and spend a week as your personal maid, cooking up lovely soups and breads to help heal you, acting out my favorite scenes from Satan in High Heels and performing the Mad Queen's Scarf Dance to "Theme from Exodus" by F & T to help cheer you up.

big healing hugs,  Steve PS my regards to your son.

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Current Talk '04 II / Re: Masques of the Plague in 1841 PT, Corman, etc.
« on: September 09, 2004, 03:26:25 PM »
Vlad, I'm aghast at your report that reviewers have been dismissing the R. Corman/V. Price Masque film as "trash"--when I was a young'un, the movie was widely regarded as the high point of the Corman Poe AIP series, beautifully stylised with exquisite images and a literate, provocative screenplay.  Only The Tomb of Ligeia surpassed it because it was just a bit more finished and had a more understated approach to the subject matter.  Perhaps today's critics regard Ligeia as trash, too.

I don't think people appreciate true subtlety or symbolism in film any longer.  Like Midnite, I've been impressed with the comments cult auteur Harry Kumel made in connection with Daughters of Darkness (although I have only heard the version of his comments recorded on the DVD).  He talks about his formalist methodology and his view that films should be treated as dreams, not representations of reality.  It's not the only way to do film, but it's a technique that I think can be found a great deal in Dark Shadows--both literally in the dream sequences and figuratively in the balletic representation of narrative.

For those whose brains have been rotted out by the explo posturings of certain highly touted present-day filmmakers (I won't name names though I am aching to do so), of course, anything made with a higher degree of imagination than budget is automatically "trash."

cheers, Steve

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Current Talk '04 II / Re: Grayson Hall's Hair (A Question For Her Legion)
« on: September 08, 2004, 08:56:27 PM »
Oh my sweet Goddess!  DS to DA, I *adore* it!!!

giddy minx in Boston,

Gothick

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Current Talk '04 II / Re: Masques of the Plague in 1841 PT, Corman, etc.
« on: September 07, 2004, 07:50:33 PM »
[spoiler]A couple of family members do come down with it at one point when they attempt to stop holding the Lottery, or maybe when Gabriel pulls the old switcheroo with the local lad (who had such a pretty face, as I recall; wonder who that actor was?).[/spoiler]
It wasn't handled with anything like the sophisticated use of the Plague imagery in Masque of the Red Death. As for the specific questions you ask, my answer is that the symbolism is left deliberately open-ended.  The different colors of plague reflect the different colors of the rooms in Prospero's palace (the concept of a palace or villa with chambers decorated in diffferent colors did come from the original Poe story).  And that the Plague is meant to be as much spiritual as it is physical.  The "Red" Death--Red is a color associated with Pride, and secondarily with the worldy power over the lives of masses of people that are craved by those guilty of the sin of Pride in old morality.  I think it is also meant to echo Prospero's own hubris.

As for the figures in Giuliana's dream, in the movie, I do remember one of them was a Druid.  His costume was clearly inspired by a popular line drawing of Druid that was included in a lot of popular books on the occult and pre-Christian religions in the Sixties.  The appearance of Priests from non-Christian religions in the dream is the classic Christian assumption that anyone who doesn't serve their god must be serving Satan.

cheers,  Steve

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Robservations / Re: Robservations 10/9/02 - #682/683 - Beth Gives Amy a Gift
« on: September 02, 2004, 10:15:03 PM »
These are *beautiful* captures for these two shows.

I really need to get these out of the vault and watch them again.  I'd forgotten about Mrs J attending the seance.  I just watched the shows about the seance in the Laura Collins '67 storyline and Mrs J's disapproving comments about the whole thing had me in stitches!

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '04 II / Re: OT - Citizen Buzz
« on: September 02, 2004, 04:25:48 PM »
How wonderful for Mr. Buzz.  The Yardley bit makes me feature him in a trench coat, slouch hat, and perhaps a pipe.  Tail wagging occurs discreetly off camera.

My cat Simona holds the title Plump Princess of Boston Ave. She was not awarded it, however--she simply seized it, slashing into ribbons with a casual paw anything or anyone that got in her way, as she has since time began.

That's my gal.

cheers, G.

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Robservations / Re: Robservations 10/4/02 - #676/677
« on: September 02, 2004, 04:21:18 PM »
Strangely, one of my all-time favorite moments on DS is the series of shots establishing Julia's time waiting in the cottage at the start of this second episode.  It's just so well done, with such simplicity of methods.  And Grayson is quietly brilliant, too.

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Hi Rainey Park, oh, there were lots of computers on TV in the mid to late Sixties.  They were huge, clunky affairs--a single one could fill a decent sized room.  They were regular props on shows such as The Time Tunnel, The Girl from UNCLE, Lost in Space, Mr. Terrific, and many others.

What I can't understand is the strange spelling of Mr Juggins name on this entry.  Is it so folks won't get confused and think Robin is really talking about Tim?

G.

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Darren, did you ever turn up any more leads on the stories of home movies taken by a fan on the set of hoDS?

I was wondering whether the fan(s) who did those movies might have been the same folks who had the home movie footage of Grayson that was used in the DS 30th anniversary tape from MPI.

Wouldn't it be great if there was a shot of Denise and David at the filming of the party sequence in that footage?

G.

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