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Calendar Events / Announcements '05 I / Re: The Divine Tongue :O
« on: January 12, 2005, 04:21:18 PM »
She's in it for about 5 minutes.  I find her sequences so intriguing that I bought the commercial video on eBay just to have it.  It was adapted from a novel by John Barth (I think?) that was popular on the lit crit scene in the Sixties, and someone was kind enough to send me the passages from the novel that were the other two scenes with G's character that were cut.

The most she ever really said about it in interviews, apart from her displeasure at the cuts, was something along the lines of "Nobody's gonna mistake me for some crazy dyke after they see THIS!"  (I apologise for anybody who takes offense--GH was often brusquely anglo-saxon in the way she expressed herself).

Unfortunately the movie was not released until a full year after production ended, and the director, apart from cutting two of Grayson's scenes, left in a brief moment of full frontal male nudity and a controversial abortion sequence that secured for the film an X rating.

To be blunt, I've never been able to sit through the whole thing.  It's late-Sixties in the worst self-indulgent way. Amazing cast, though--apart from Grayson, Stacey Keach, James Earl Jones, and James Coco appear.

G.

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Current Talk '05 I / Re: Favorite Music of Dark Shadows?
« on: January 12, 2005, 04:09:20 PM »
Rainey, that's interesting that "hootchie-koo" dates to the Twenties.  I thought it might go back to the music halls of the 1880s-90s.

"I wanna dance for you," the tune, was, I believe, originally composed for Dan Curtis' adaptation of "The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde" which aired on ABC in 1968 and starred Jack Palance (who later performed as Dracula in DC's film of that book).  The words "hootchie-koo" and "tara-ra-boom-de-ay" (the latter is the first words of a nonsense patter song) are, I think, meant to evoke the atmosphere of an 1890s London music hall with their talented tease dancers and mentalists such as Miss Faye.

Some of us here are into another 1960s cult TV show, The Avengers, which was English and aired in the evenings on ABC in 1967-69.  In 1969 the new character was Tara and when she told Steed (the other main protagonist) her name, he said "Tara?" and she said "Raboomdeay!"  or something like that... it always makes me smile.  Sort of like Pansy Faye popping in on another favorite show of the period.

As for music, I prefer the background cues to the theme songs, although I am very fond of "Back at the Blue Whale" with its raucous, hippie-chick tambourine.  I also like "A Darkness at Collinwood" (I think of the beginning part as "Theme for Barnabas,") Liz's special music, the glass-armonica and theremin piece that I think has Roxanne's name on the CD, etc. I have all 4 CDs issued by MPI plus the special ones for the movies, etc issued by Rhino and Varese Sarabande.  The music was always one of my favorite things about DS.

G.

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Current Talk '05 I / Re: Questions, questions...
« on: January 12, 2005, 03:58:25 PM »
Folks who like that 1991 series should buy the tapes NOW because MPI is going to let them go out of print.

Even though I can barely stand most of that series, I've considered getting a set, because of a couple of performances and moments that I did enjoy.  I think space considerations are winning that particular battle at the moment, unfortunately...

There is, or used to be, a book about the 1991 series available from Pomegranate Press.  It included sketches and notes for the second season so you can get an idea where they were going to take the story.  I bet that book is out of print too, but you could probably find it cheap on eBay.

G.

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Luciaphil's Idle Thoughts '05 / Re: Open All Night -- Episodes 19 & 20
« on: January 11, 2005, 05:42:26 PM »
Just a line to share just what a KICK I'm getting out of these.  I do hope you can continue.  Day Two lasted even longer than I remembered!  I seem to recall noting that Art Wallace was writing the shows in Real Time, apparently as some kind of weird experiment, because I remember noticing that Liz said that something that had happened 4 episodes previously was 3 hours ago, or something along those lines... that blew my mind! Especially given the cavalier way they treated time, on *every* level, subsequently in the series.

I do hope you have the stamina to continue slogging through Day Two!  Here's to the wittiest of all our Cousins.

your fan, Gothick

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Calendar Events / Announcements '05 I / Re: DS EMMY awards prenominations
« on: January 11, 2005, 05:38:46 PM »
Hi Countess, I'm an old hippie, and I'm *mad* about Grayson Hall!  (Mad, I tell you!)  She was a socialist from waaayy back and I love that about her, too.

MB, I read a report from Mac Expo that Steve Jobs has developed a search engine capable of locating even the few RD fans out there in webland.  When he said "insanely great," he meant it, emphasis on "insane"!

Gothick who is about to purchase his very first iBook... is the world ready???

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Jean-Claude, it's not even our wedding night, and you're already fulfilling one of my most deeply cherished secret fantasies!

Keep. It. Up!!!!

G.

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Roger:  "See, Dan, I *told* ya I could play Barnabas!  The chair even fits me like a charm!"
Grayson:  "GIve me a BREAK."

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That finall episode really is DS at its best. The pacing of it is wonderful.  In the later years, they often messed up the climactic episode of a storyline.

However, *my* favorite part of the end of the Laura storyline is the episode where Liz returns to Collinwood and she and Roger have a private talk in her bedroom.  I saw this again a few months back and it made me realize just how much the show lost when Liz and Roger's relationship was reduced to a little packet of wooden cliches.

G.

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Current Talk '05 I / Re: Witchcraft in Dark Shadows
« on: January 09, 2005, 08:47:26 PM »
Hi Onyx,

what Penny Dreadful says is right on the mark.  In Christian folklore, Witchcraft ofen implied a pact with the Devil.  It's interesting to note that one of the earliest documents actually banning non-Christian religious practices, a 9th century Papal bull, includes such acts as "worshipping" sacred springs, trees, standing stones, and other natural features; honoring the New and Full Moon; healing with the aid of herbs; and a lengthy list of other practices that are part of today's Wiccan practice, but seldom linked to the late Mediaeval and Renaissance iconography of "the Witch figure."

I think of Angelique as deriving her powers from Elemental sources--Fire, Air, Water, Earth, and herbs that contain potent combinations of these agents--but she often invokes the Devil "Prince of Fire," "Dark Lord," etc. in her incantations.

In the case of Count Petofi, his powers come from his Will.  The 4 powers of the Mage were cited by Eliphas Levi, a 19th century mystic and magician, as "To Know, to Will, to Dare, and to keep silent."

It's also implied that Count Petofi has Elementals at his beck and call.  There's a scene where he tells someone, maybe Lady Kitty, that his information "does not come from human sources."

I could ramble on and on about this topic, so I have tried to keep this short.

Hey, Penny, I'm going shopping in Salem late in January.  Want to do a meet-up at the Front St. Cafe? *wink*

Gothick

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Thanks, Nancy.  Everything you wrote pretty much follows my understanding of the situation.

That's very unfortunate about that site putting up all those photos from the book.  Makes it more difficult for anyone else who wants to use just two or three photos on a site.

btw--Happy New Year!

Steve

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Greetings all,

I'm not sure just where this post belongs, or if it's even appropriate for this Board--but I'll give it a shot anyway.

I am curious whether anybody knows whether Dan Curtis Productions has an official policy regarding fan-produced material that incorporates original DS broadcast material.  I'm thinking here primarily of things such as websites with lots of stills and video clips, and music videos which are usually montages of clips of the original episodes.

Given that the fan music videos have been shown for years at the Festivals, and that I've never heard of a cease-and-desist order from DCP directed against any of the fan sites, my guess is that *unofficially* DCP regards all of this as free advertising for its product.  Does anybody know whether Dan's office has an *official* policy about this?  I ask for a reason, not simply out of idle curiosity.

The only time I can remember there being a problem was when a fan site announced they were going to offer complete episodes as some sort of streaming video.  I don't think they had the technology (or bandwidth!) to accomplish that, but I seem to recall that they got a letter--or were persuaded by other fans that it wasn't a good idea.

Thanks for anyone who can shed some light on this.

Best wishes,

Gothick

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Current Talk '05 I / Re: Best Episode recommendations for newbie?
« on: January 07, 2005, 03:46:48 PM »
Tempted to just reply "anything with Roger Davis in it," but I'll restrain myself...

The Adam storyline happened at the same time as the Cassandra story, which is my very favorite part of DS (maybe because it was the first story I ever saw--I started watching in June '68).  And practically a tie for my favorite storyline is the Leviathan story, especially the earlier weeks of it.  So, I think Raineypark makes a good point here--even if you think the basic concept of Leviathans is a load of hooey, you'll miss some wonderful performances.

G.

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Current Talk '05 I / Re: Witchcraft in Dark Shadows
« on: January 07, 2005, 03:40:43 PM »
Oh, OK.  The one where she's gathering herbs would be on the first "1795" DVD set (I don't own any of the DVDs myself--I have the videos).

I don't think the "jewel of antiquity" one has been released yet--it's from the Count Petofi storyline, which lasted several months (one of my favorite storylines--Count Petofi is a Magician, so his scenes with Angelique are interesting if you enjoy the notion of a Witch vs. a Magician).

Another thing I forgot to say is that in the original 1795 story, Angelique's powers seemed very much like folk Witchcraft (similar to what in the deep south is called Hoodoo or "root doctoring").  When she comes back as Cassandra in 1968, she's suddenly a Satanic Witch and invokes the Devil in her spells.  Lara Parker played up this angle very heavily in her novel, Angelique's Descent.

G.

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Current Talk '05 I / Re: Witchcraft in Dark Shadows
« on: January 06, 2005, 10:21:36 PM »
Probably the best spell was one of the very first ones in 1795, because they actually showed her gathering herbs, and she needed to get someone to steal an article of clothing for the link to make it work.

In the later storylines, she evolves into Superwitch, and does a lot of the usual TV-witch silliness.  One thing about Lara Parker that I like is that she emotes the energetic conjoining of passion and will in Angelique's spellcasting really well. 

I really liked the spell she put on Laura Collins at the end of Laura's story in 1897 (just watched that one recently).  Another 1897 spell that's really cool is one she performs with the aid of a "jewel of antiquity"--it looks like something from Ohrbach's costume jewellry department, but I love it anyway.

Do you want episode numbers or DVD set information for these?  Or are you just generally curious?

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '05 I / Re: Happy Birthday jennifer!
« on: January 06, 2005, 10:04:13 PM »
Happy belated birthday Dear!

In your honor, I'm imagining a naked, smiling Chris Jennings popping out of a birthday cake and coming up to you with a shy, eager smile, asking you to "help him out."

As a skilled professional, I think you know what to do next. *wink*

Best wishes!

Gothick

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