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Greetings all,

I'm not sure just where this post belongs, or if it's even appropriate for this Board--but I'll give it a shot anyway.

I am curious whether anybody knows whether Dan Curtis Productions has an official policy regarding fan-produced material that incorporates original DS broadcast material.  I'm thinking here primarily of things such as websites with lots of stills and video clips, and music videos which are usually montages of clips of the original episodes.

Given that the fan music videos have been shown for years at the Festivals, and that I've never heard of a cease-and-desist order from DCP directed against any of the fan sites, my guess is that *unofficially* DCP regards all of this as free advertising for its product.  Does anybody know whether Dan's office has an *official* policy about this?  I ask for a reason, not simply out of idle curiosity.

The only time I can remember there being a problem was when a fan site announced they were going to offer complete episodes as some sort of streaming video.  I don't think they had the technology (or bandwidth!) to accomplish that, but I seem to recall that they got a letter--or were persuaded by other fans that it wasn't a good idea.

Thanks for anyone who can shed some light on this.

Best wishes,

Gothick

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Current Talk '05 I / Re: Best Episode recommendations for newbie?
« on: January 07, 2005, 04:46:48 PM »
Tempted to just reply "anything with Roger Davis in it," but I'll restrain myself...

The Adam storyline happened at the same time as the Cassandra story, which is my very favorite part of DS (maybe because it was the first story I ever saw--I started watching in June '68).  And practically a tie for my favorite storyline is the Leviathan story, especially the earlier weeks of it.  So, I think Raineypark makes a good point here--even if you think the basic concept of Leviathans is a load of hooey, you'll miss some wonderful performances.

G.

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Current Talk '05 I / Re: Witchcraft in Dark Shadows
« on: January 07, 2005, 04:40:43 PM »
Oh, OK.  The one where she's gathering herbs would be on the first "1795" DVD set (I don't own any of the DVDs myself--I have the videos).

I don't think the "jewel of antiquity" one has been released yet--it's from the Count Petofi storyline, which lasted several months (one of my favorite storylines--Count Petofi is a Magician, so his scenes with Angelique are interesting if you enjoy the notion of a Witch vs. a Magician).

Another thing I forgot to say is that in the original 1795 story, Angelique's powers seemed very much like folk Witchcraft (similar to what in the deep south is called Hoodoo or "root doctoring").  When she comes back as Cassandra in 1968, she's suddenly a Satanic Witch and invokes the Devil in her spells.  Lara Parker played up this angle very heavily in her novel, Angelique's Descent.

G.

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Current Talk '05 I / Re: Witchcraft in Dark Shadows
« on: January 06, 2005, 11:21:36 PM »
Probably the best spell was one of the very first ones in 1795, because they actually showed her gathering herbs, and she needed to get someone to steal an article of clothing for the link to make it work.

In the later storylines, she evolves into Superwitch, and does a lot of the usual TV-witch silliness.  One thing about Lara Parker that I like is that she emotes the energetic conjoining of passion and will in Angelique's spellcasting really well. 

I really liked the spell she put on Laura Collins at the end of Laura's story in 1897 (just watched that one recently).  Another 1897 spell that's really cool is one she performs with the aid of a "jewel of antiquity"--it looks like something from Ohrbach's costume jewellry department, but I love it anyway.

Do you want episode numbers or DVD set information for these?  Or are you just generally curious?

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '05 I / Re: Happy Birthday jennifer!
« on: January 06, 2005, 11:04:13 PM »
Happy belated birthday Dear!

In your honor, I'm imagining a naked, smiling Chris Jennings popping out of a birthday cake and coming up to you with a shy, eager smile, asking you to "help him out."

As a skilled professional, I think you know what to do next. *wink*

Best wishes!

Gothick

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Calendar Events / Announcements '05 I / Re: Seizure, etc...
« on: January 05, 2005, 08:53:18 PM »
Fans of this film should order the Video Watchdog issue (from several years ago--but I know they sell back issues on their site) with a big article all about Seizure.  I seem to recall that Martine Beswick was in a "trance" in the scene where she walks over broken glass and she was doing it for real.

I also heard from someone, somewhere that none of the actors ever got paid for their work, or if they were paid, it was a looonggg time coming.

I'd be *very* surprised if Ollie Stone ever signs off on Seizure's DVD release but it seems as if he does not own the rights to the movie so who knows.

G.

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Current Talk '05 I / Re: Does anyone else agree...
« on: January 05, 2005, 05:19:30 PM »
Of course, I have to chip in my own opinion, and as usual, I irritatingly disagree.

I have just been watching weeks 10 through 13 of 1897. [spoiler]The unfolding of Quentin's curse, Laura's story, Angelique's role in everything, and the occasional scenes of Barnabas doing his vampire thing all works together really well.  Quentin's anguish is anything but campy.  Horrifying though Laura is, Millay brings an element of poignancy to her final episodes.[/spoiler]

Just my not-so-humble opinion.  If we all agreed, what would there be to discuss?

G.

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Current Talk '04 II / Re: Ross Novels / Gold Key Comics
« on: January 05, 2005, 05:14:25 PM »
Hell, I've been a cranky old man since about age 15!

And now I am a middle aged New England Luddite curmudgeon who stays home with his cat most Sat. nights.... watching Dark Shadows, of course!

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Current Talk '05 I / Re: Best Episode recommendations for newbie?
« on: January 05, 2005, 05:10:50 PM »
Thanks, dear!  I was stupidly using the Chinese-hat brackets instead of squares.

I'm just a Luddite at heart.

G.

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Current Talk '05 I / Re: Best Episode recommendations for newbie?
« on: January 05, 2005, 04:36:15 PM »
It kind of depends upon what you're looking for, and what you already like.  If you enjoy old black and white shows such as the Twilight Zone and Thriller (the Boris Karloff one), I would definitely say start with the first DVD set (maybe you could borrow it from a friend?)  If black and white shows make you fidgety, I do think the start of the 1795 storyline would be a good place to start.  You don't need to have watched the shows leading up to that, really, because they change practically everything you've been told about the family situation up to that point once they get Vicki to 1795.

I can post specific episodes I've used to introduce the unbaptised to the show, if I can ever remember how the *$%# spoiler code works.

G.

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Current Talk '05 I / Re: Is Joe a Collins?
« on: January 05, 2005, 04:31:14 PM »
Those family trees would appear to incorporate quite a bit of fannish speculation.  I myself have speculated that Joe was related to the Collins', though distantly enough so that I don't squick at the thought of him dating Carolyn.  I think actually that in the Celtic lands there were traditions of first cousins marrying so the same goes for Chris and Carolyn... I've always thought that the Collins had their background in a Scots-Irish family.  Since they were already here in the US in the 17th century, they were obviously amongst the early waves of settlers.  But I digress...

On the show, in canon, it only says that Joe was a "cousin" to Chris, Tom and Amy.  Because of his closeness to Chris, and his protectiveness to the child, I always thought that cousin here means a close relationship rather than a distant one.  English kin terms are so darned imprecise ...

G.

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Current Talk '05 I / Minerva Trask
« on: January 04, 2005, 10:00:41 PM »
A few evenings back, I treated myself to some 1897 episodes.   Among them was the notorious scene of Minerva visiting Collinwood, jar of damson plum preserves in hand.  I must say, Clarice Blackburn took my breath away in that scene.  She was so incredibly nuanced and wonderful a performer.  After Mrs J, Minerva is my favorite CB role.  Even though she has fewer scenes than did Abigail in 1795, I think Minerva's jealousy makes her more interesting psychologically and allows CB to show more of her range.

One of my regrets about the later years of DS is that they never gave Mrs J another storyline comparable to what she had during the Bill Malloy period.  Clarice is one of my personal favorite actresses on the show, and she's definitely getting a vote in the prenoms for the Emmies from me.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '05 I / Re: Jonathan Frid update:)
« on: January 04, 2005, 06:06:06 PM »
Yeah, but it's such fun to watch him get all steamed up about this stuff!

G.

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Current Talk '04 II / Re: Ross Novels / Gold Key Comics
« on: January 04, 2005, 04:20:05 PM »
But Jean-Claude, you're so cuddly and cute exactly as you are!

And that's not YOUR drink, Cinderella!

Paul-ette

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Polls Archive / Re: Three Most Favorite Thayer David Characterizations
« on: January 04, 2005, 12:29:23 AM »
I agree.  In one of my favorite scenes in Leviathan, Stokes tells Julia that it's time for her to be "realistic" about Barnabas, and I always thought he meant to bring up the whole vampire thing because, as we used to say back then, he'd decided it was time to "get down to cases."

Of course she ran out on him, and TD dropped out of the show around that point to go do Little Big Man, so...

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