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Current Talk '05 I / Re: Mrs Johnson's Wig
« on: June 21, 2005, 03:16:08 PM »
Barbara Cason, Dennis P's wife, who played the role in the movie, had a version of the Mrs Johnson "hairstyle" (if that's what it should be called) in House of DS (not NoDS), but I don't know whether they drove out the actual wig that Clarice wore in the role... so far as I know, it was her personal property.

In NoDS, confusingly, Clarice Blackburn did appear, but she played Mrs Castle, and there was a wonderful scene with her (unless I'm hallucinating again) in the missing footage Darren showed at the Festival last year.  You'll all be relieved to learn that she did NOT wear the Mrs J wig in that part--it really would not have looked right on a domestic of 1810.

Hey, Miss Winthrop, I'm a huge fan of Strange Paradise!  How far along on the show are you? They've been running it in Canada on the "Drive-in Classics" channel (unfortunately not available in the US), and they're set to start running it again on July 4, I believe.

G.

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The other thing that's a hoot about the name Willy Wonka is that if Roald Dahl had been writing in American, the old dear would have been called Master Baitor...

G.

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Current Talk '05 I / Re: Mrs Johnson's Wig
« on: June 20, 2005, 06:22:57 PM »
I always found Laura Collins' lip gloss in 1967 to be particularly EEE-rie... it was so shiny and... pastel!

G.

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Current Talk '05 I / Re: Mrs Johnson's Wig
« on: June 20, 2005, 05:53:14 PM »
Yes--apparently, though, Clarice bought the wig herself.  She wore it to her audition, and it basically got her the job.  I don't know whether you have ever seen photographs of Clarice Blackburn leaving the studio, but she was actually a very attractive lady!

Now Rainey, darling, you really ought to know better than to sip tea while reading *my* posts!

xo, Steve

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Current Talk '05 I / Mrs Johnson's Wig
« on: June 20, 2005, 04:42:14 PM »
I wish to announce an important siting of Mrs Johnson's wig, a topic of special significance for the security of our beloved Nation:

Yesterday evening I was watching a 1966 episode of The Addams Family while eating my dinner.  It featured a guest appearance by the magnficent Margaret Hamilton as Morticia's Mom, Granny Frump (that is the character's actual name).  I had not noticed it in previous appearances, but in this show, Granny Frump was wearing Mrs. Johnson's wig!

I quite like to think of Granny posting it to her dear niece, Sarah Johnson, as "something to liven up your social life a bit, dear."  At the end of the episode, Granny appeared with a new hair-do, so she clearly had sent the wig along to greener pastures--what better choice than Collinsport?

Just thought all you fans would want to know.

Best wishes, G.

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In the books, from what *I* recall, Wonka was this little old gnome who had a very tricksterish flair and was more than a little dangerous--the sort of being that only a little boy could really love (think the Psammead in Five Children and It--hmmm, I'm sure Dahl was an E Nesbit fan...).

From the stills I have seen, the remake appears to be more an embroidery upon the Seventies film, rather than a revisiting of the Dahl texts.  I've asked repeatedly whether the songs are included in the new flick, but nobody seems to know.  It will really be a crashing bore without the songs... I agree with whoever said the Seventies oompa-loompas looked like Gerard Stiles...

btw, did anybody out there ever read those Joan Aiken books about Dido Twite and her friends and foes--Wolves of Willoughby Chase; Nightbirds in Nantucket; Black Hearts in Battersea, etc.?  Apparently the final book in the series is being published posthumously (Dame Joan went to her reward, aged 80-something, last year, it seems), and it sounds juicy.  The word Witch is in the title--always a good sign.

Steve

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Current Talk '05 I / Vampilique (spoilers)
« on: June 16, 2005, 10:50:18 PM »
A couple of weeks ago, I started watching the storyline where [spoiler]Vampire Angelique or "Vampilique" as she might be called is given permission by her Master, the fiendishly debonair Nicholas Blair, to go after Barnabas Collins.  It's been a few years since I visited this particular storyline and it's been interesting watching it again.[/spoiler]

What I did not realize before is how heavily the writers seem to have drawn upon the works of English novelist D H Lawrence in their portrayal of Angelique and Barnabas at this point.  This storyline seems to have taken their love/hate relationship, particularly the view of Angelique as a fiend literally sucking the lifeblood out of Barnabas, to its logical conclusion. 

I'd be interested to hear further discussion of this storyline, particularly from fans of the Ang/Barn relationship.  The dialogue reveals some fairly bitter twists, such as when both characters inform one another of their hatred for the other, or when Ang takes evil pleasure in breaking down Barnabas' sense of self-worth and dignity.  The whole Angelique/Joe denouement is an even more bitter spin along these lines.

Maybe folks who haven't seen these shows can just avoid this thread, so most of the discussion doesn't have to be behind those hard-to-read spoiler curtains?

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Current Talk '05 I / Re: vampire fashion
« on: June 14, 2005, 08:49:14 PM »
Here's a link to a page of Vampira photos:

http://partigirl.www1.50megs.com/Vampirapix.htm

It would be interesting to know whether her act was inspired by the Charles Addams cartoons.  Both certainly owe something to the star of Dracula's Daughter.

G.

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Caption This! - 1796_3 / Re: Episode #0665
« on: June 14, 2005, 05:18:45 PM »
Nancy:  Grayson, did you bring the lyric sheets with you?
Grayson: Who needs 'em?  Just follow with me:  "LET'S ... DO .. THE TIME WARP TODAY-Y-Y!"

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Caption This! - house of Dark Shadows / Re: House of Dark Shadows
« on: June 14, 2005, 05:12:45 PM »
LAWRENCE WELK (voiceover): "And, while the rest of us enjoy the sunny skies here in Banff, our guest maestro Barnabas Collins charms us from his basement bachelor hideaway with his very personal arrangement of 'I get a kick out of you.'  Maestro, hit it!"

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JULIA (voiceover): "It's so screamingly obvious this dump would fall apart without me.  From the free valium I supply this family with to 'Julia, what are we gonna do about those crank calls from Roto-rooter'--forget Liz, I'm the REAL Mistress of Collinwood!"

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Current Talk '05 I / Re: vampire fashion
« on: June 14, 2005, 03:44:02 PM »
Penny Dreadful, that's fascinating!  That festival sounds like a lot of fun.

I should have mentioned that before Morticia on the Addams Family, Vampira (actress Maila Nurmi) in the 1950s created a look that was very ahead of its time and may have contributed to the look devised for Morticia.  Unfortunately I have read that NO video footage of Vampira's act exists, but there are plenty of photographs.

G.

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Current Talk '05 I / Re: vampire fashion
« on: June 13, 2005, 10:17:17 PM »
Wasn't that band Siouxie and the Banshees responsible for making the Goth look visible in the mass media?  I pretty much spent the Eighties living in a cave so this is only a vague impression.

It seems to me that some elements of Goth style came from New Wave--punk wasn't the only influence.

But going back to the Sixties, Morticia Addams may have been the original Goth chick, vintage 1964.

G. who still mourns the early death of Carolyn Jones--another Divine One!

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Current Talk '05 I / Re: vampire fashion
« on: June 13, 2005, 08:58:18 PM »
I doubt whether this answers your question, but in the uneven (yet often excellent) series Forever Knight (1992-95, filmed in Toronto), the vampires hung out at a Goth club, and several of them did the Goth fashion thing.  It seems to me that at this point the association between vampires and Goth fashions was already established--another film that comes to mind is "The Howling II" (1984) in which the werewolves dress and behave like Goth club kids.

Going back to the late Sixties and early Seventies, some of the modern-day films such as "Dracula A. D. 1972," "The Satanic Rites of Dracula," "The Return of Count Yorga" and even perhaps "house of Dark Shadows" seem to have contained some of the seeds of the Goth look.  There are books out documenting the history of Goth culture; perhaps that would be the place to try to pinpoint the association between this fashion style and vampirism more accurately.

Here in New England, the self-proclaimed "Official Witch of Salem" Laurie Cabot is the one who popularized the idea that Witches run around in yards of dark crushed-velvet fabric with false eyelashes above and below and enough eyeliner to sink the Lusitania.  I know a Priestess who has a shop in Salem who was trained by Cabot in the Seventies and who still dresses this way to this day--she is now a Grandmother.  She is a very sweet person and loves to share what she knows.  I've never tried to discuss the whole weird "Witch fashion" thing which I find over-the-top and unnecessary, although as my friends will tell you, I enjoy a good costume do as much as the next person!

Best wishes,

G.

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Groovy!  I'm excited that you have so many ideas!

I had two ideas for videos that I know you would do brilliant versions of, but I'm sure you already have plenty on your plate for the summer.  Just for the Hell of it, though, these are my ideas:

(1) Julia Hoffman, Dominatrix (alternate title Julia Hoffman, Control Bitch) Maybe to a Debbie Harry song, have scenes of Julia (Hoffman from PT could be included too) giving orders, being bossy, cutting open Joe's shirt (just watched this last night and realized how IN CONTROL the good dr was), and, of course, slapping people!

(2)  It's Raining Men--to the Weather Girls song (or some other silly pop anthem), have a gallery of studly men from various storylines of DS.  I think DS was ahead of the game in finding excuses to have shirtless men appearing on the show, well before it became such a TREND on the soaps.

Just thoughts that came to me when contemplating the exciting prospect of new videos from you!

best,

Steve

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