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I'd like to comment just how fine Joan Bennett is in certain of these scenes on Dark Shadows.  I particularly think of some of the Liz '66 storyline, the Jason Maguire sequence, Naomi mourning her daughter's death in 1795, and Judith in 1897.  As Flora, it was fascinating to see JB play a frivolous lady's novelist in the early weeks of 1840, given that I doubt JB had a frivolous bone in her body.

Not to mount the soap-box, but as I have written before, I think the whole concept of "realism" in acting is given far too much critical emphasis.  Only occasionally did a more muted, "realistic" style of acting play well on Dark Shadows... in the case of Grayson, you see this in some of her scenes as Hoffman in PT 1970.  By and large, DS was a big, theatrical canvas which had to be played with a carefully mixed blend of style, elan, and emotional commitment.  The commitment the regulars showed to the scripts, even when the latter went off the cliff, is truly inspiring.

G.

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Current Talk '05 II / Re: 1991 Series To Be Released On DVD
« on: September 08, 2005, 02:48:54 PM »
Wow.  Am I understanding correctly that the company is releasing mangled, butchered versions of this series on DVD?

I've never been much of a fan of the 1991 series, but I'd say doing THIS to it is crossing a line, in my eyes.

What was it with that show, anyway?  It seemed as if it was under a curse from the get-go.  (Holy Goddess, now I'm sounding like Mrs J during the Tom/Julia storyline).

One does have to wonder, though...

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '05 II / Re: NIGHT OF THE IGUANA on TCM
« on: September 08, 2005, 02:42:10 PM »
The original stage play was markedly changed for the film version.  I think the play was set in the 1930s and there was a German family staying at Mismaloya...  I still can't get my mind around Bette Davis on Broadway playing the role taken in the film by Ava Gardner!

G.

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How fascinating.  I commented to my friend Claude the other day that if Steve Allen were alive and broadcasting today, he'd probably be burnt at the stake by the Office of Homeland Security.

I'll never forget the revival of his staged panels of debates between famous historical figures such as Tom Paine, Jefferson, Sokrates, Mme Curie, etc., in the early Seventies.  You could turn on the TV and listen to learned, witty debate that ran the gamut from the origins and nature of democracy to the role of aesthetics in the evolution of human culture.

It's good to know that Ben is publishing this book. Steve Allen deserves to be remembered and celebrated for his contributions.

G.

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ANGELIQUE: (voiceover) At this moment, dear Nicholas has no idea that I just pinned a "KICK ME" sign on the seat of his trousers...

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Roger:  Thayer, gimme a break!  I said I DIDN'T steal those doughnuts out of your dressing room.  OKAY??

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Current Talk '05 II / Re: Where was the Secret in 1840?
« on: September 06, 2005, 06:03:05 PM »
Penny, when I first saw this thread heading, my response was "doesn't she mean:  where were the writers' brains in 1840?"  But I digress...

[spoiler]When Julia first arrives in 1840, at the very beginning of the storyline, she's hiding out at Collinwood waiting for Ben Stokes to help her with her plan to pass herself off as yet another long-lost cousin (from the Philadelphia branch!) of the Collins family.  Daniel discovers her and begins to strangle her, saying that he knows she's really Harriet, and words to the effect of "you were such an interfering harridan, why don't you stay dead?"  I believe Ben intervenes to save Julia.  I understood from this episode that Daniel had seizures/attacks a la Caroline Lamb and that his mania took the form of killing his own wife. I suspect that Daniel's words in that show were the origin of the persistent fan rumor that Grayson played Harriet's ghost--actually portrayed by Gaye Edmond, as another fan noted.[/spoiler]

I've been away for a few days, playing with the Faeries.  The amusing chat here is one of the few things today that makes me feel that it's actually good to be back. Thanks, everybody.

G.

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Wow.  That almost sounds like an in-joke from one of the writers who may lurk here or on another forum. We discussed this topic several times over the years...

G.

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Current Talk '05 II / Re: Jeremiah Collins
« on: August 31, 2005, 07:32:36 PM »
Thanks for those quotes, MB.  I just watched those tapes about a month ago.  Anybody who doesn't remember, go back and watch.  (I heard you can get the DVDs through Netflicks now.)

Barnabas does comment repeatedly on Burke's physical resemblance to Jeremiah.  He also makes a ghoulish comment along the lines of "Ah, if only Devlin could be as dead as Jeremiah is now, I would be a most contented man."

Frid was so good in the role of the nasty, devious, scheming Barnabas.  He spoke so many of those lines with a cold, deliberate relish.  Great stuff.

G.

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Oh, I recall reading about this--hard to believe it was five years ago!

It sounded totally fascinating.  I wish I had gone up for it.

Thanks for sharing the photo, Nancy!  It's a great shot--love the angle.

Best,  Steve

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These are delightful!  I have no witty captions about blenders to add, but I'd guess that DP had cracked quite a joke when that first photo was taken.

Priceless stuff!  More, please!

G.

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Thanks for posting these.  Golly, I would have loved to have seen Joan in Bell, Book, and Candle.  I wonder whether she played the lead, or one of the supporting roles?  I seem to recall that the character played by Hermione Gingold in the movie does not appear on stage in the play.

In the old days, those touring companies were known as "bus and truck" tours--the actors on the bus, the scenery and such on a truck--and Joan says in her autobiography that the actors themselves used to call them "buck and truss" because of the stiff muscles and sore backs everyone had to deal with in those long hours on the bus!

G.

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Current Talk '05 II / Re: Jeremiah Collins
« on: August 30, 2005, 03:46:48 PM »
Hi Stefan, yes, they make Burke's resemblance to Jeremiah part of the pattern of Barnabas' jealousy of the Burke/Victoria relationship in the later part of the 1967 storyline.

When Burke and Vicki announce their engagement, Barnabas angrily exclaims "Jeremiah!"  I think Burke overhears him and the oddity of the exclamation fuels his investigation of Barnabas' background.

This isn't really relevant to the topic, but I personally find Robert Gerringer (vintage '67, obviously) much cuddlier than Anthony George.  Each to his own, I guess.

G.

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Current Talk '05 II / Re: Jeremiah Collins
« on: August 29, 2005, 08:33:20 PM »
MB, you are correct about the chronology.  There is a letter from late Summer of '67 to Mrs. Frid where JF mentions DC taking him aside and revealing the plan to go back in time and reveal how Barnabas came to be a vampire.

I'd really like to know when the story conference that produced the full blown outline for 1795 happened, given how a very different chronology and outline of events was discussed in episodes that were taped only a month or LESS before the start of the 1795 story.

I have also never seen any inkling of Robert Gerringer playing Jeremiah in any publication about the history of Dark Shadows.  Jeremiah's putative resemblance to Burke Devlin was mentioned soon after Anthony George took over the role, IIRC.  There were several episodes in which Barnabas made great play of the fact.

G.

5205
Whoa! the winning bid on that pen was $215.22!

G.

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