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Current Talk '05 II / Re: Where was the Secret in 1840?
« on: September 06, 2005, 06:03:05 PM »
Penny, when I first saw this thread heading, my response was "doesn't she mean:  where were the writers' brains in 1840?"  But I digress...

[spoiler]When Julia first arrives in 1840, at the very beginning of the storyline, she's hiding out at Collinwood waiting for Ben Stokes to help her with her plan to pass herself off as yet another long-lost cousin (from the Philadelphia branch!) of the Collins family.  Daniel discovers her and begins to strangle her, saying that he knows she's really Harriet, and words to the effect of "you were such an interfering harridan, why don't you stay dead?"  I believe Ben intervenes to save Julia.  I understood from this episode that Daniel had seizures/attacks a la Caroline Lamb and that his mania took the form of killing his own wife. I suspect that Daniel's words in that show were the origin of the persistent fan rumor that Grayson played Harriet's ghost--actually portrayed by Gaye Edmond, as another fan noted.[/spoiler]

I've been away for a few days, playing with the Faeries.  The amusing chat here is one of the few things today that makes me feel that it's actually good to be back. Thanks, everybody.

G.

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Wow.  That almost sounds like an in-joke from one of the writers who may lurk here or on another forum. We discussed this topic several times over the years...

G.

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Current Talk '05 II / Re: Jeremiah Collins
« on: August 31, 2005, 07:32:36 PM »
Thanks for those quotes, MB.  I just watched those tapes about a month ago.  Anybody who doesn't remember, go back and watch.  (I heard you can get the DVDs through Netflicks now.)

Barnabas does comment repeatedly on Burke's physical resemblance to Jeremiah.  He also makes a ghoulish comment along the lines of "Ah, if only Devlin could be as dead as Jeremiah is now, I would be a most contented man."

Frid was so good in the role of the nasty, devious, scheming Barnabas.  He spoke so many of those lines with a cold, deliberate relish.  Great stuff.

G.

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Oh, I recall reading about this--hard to believe it was five years ago!

It sounded totally fascinating.  I wish I had gone up for it.

Thanks for sharing the photo, Nancy!  It's a great shot--love the angle.

Best,  Steve

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These are delightful!  I have no witty captions about blenders to add, but I'd guess that DP had cracked quite a joke when that first photo was taken.

Priceless stuff!  More, please!

G.

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Thanks for posting these.  Golly, I would have loved to have seen Joan in Bell, Book, and Candle.  I wonder whether she played the lead, or one of the supporting roles?  I seem to recall that the character played by Hermione Gingold in the movie does not appear on stage in the play.

In the old days, those touring companies were known as "bus and truck" tours--the actors on the bus, the scenery and such on a truck--and Joan says in her autobiography that the actors themselves used to call them "buck and truss" because of the stiff muscles and sore backs everyone had to deal with in those long hours on the bus!

G.

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Current Talk '05 II / Re: Jeremiah Collins
« on: August 30, 2005, 03:46:48 PM »
Hi Stefan, yes, they make Burke's resemblance to Jeremiah part of the pattern of Barnabas' jealousy of the Burke/Victoria relationship in the later part of the 1967 storyline.

When Burke and Vicki announce their engagement, Barnabas angrily exclaims "Jeremiah!"  I think Burke overhears him and the oddity of the exclamation fuels his investigation of Barnabas' background.

This isn't really relevant to the topic, but I personally find Robert Gerringer (vintage '67, obviously) much cuddlier than Anthony George.  Each to his own, I guess.

G.

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Current Talk '05 II / Re: Jeremiah Collins
« on: August 29, 2005, 08:33:20 PM »
MB, you are correct about the chronology.  There is a letter from late Summer of '67 to Mrs. Frid where JF mentions DC taking him aside and revealing the plan to go back in time and reveal how Barnabas came to be a vampire.

I'd really like to know when the story conference that produced the full blown outline for 1795 happened, given how a very different chronology and outline of events was discussed in episodes that were taped only a month or LESS before the start of the 1795 story.

I have also never seen any inkling of Robert Gerringer playing Jeremiah in any publication about the history of Dark Shadows.  Jeremiah's putative resemblance to Burke Devlin was mentioned soon after Anthony George took over the role, IIRC.  There were several episodes in which Barnabas made great play of the fact.

G.

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Whoa! the winning bid on that pen was $215.22!

G.

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Thanks for checking on this, Midnite.  What a nuisance about that website no longer giving scheduling info more than a day in advance!

I occasionally wonder how folks without net access manage ever to know when or what is EVER on the tube these days...

G.

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My sweet Goddess!  Claude, you naughty lad, you just nearly made me choke on my iced tea!

G.

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What more fitting an emblem for the Mysterious Benefactor to bear than the True Sovereign of Dark Shadows--the Silver Filigree Fountain Pen.

It is little known that the origin of Barnabas Collins lay in a desperate attempt by TPTB to come up with something as popular as the Silver Filigree Fountain Pen storyline.  But sadly, even with the renown of Barnabas, the show never regained the pop-cultural cachet it held during that fabulous Autumn of 1966.

I heard that Jackie Susann planned a sequel to Valley of the Dolls, Summit of the Silver Pen, but ABC brass got wind of it, played hardball and threatened to sue.

The long-believed-to-be-lost print of the 1967 feature film, Pen of Dark Shadows, MAY have surfaced in the lower depths of Forrest J. Ackerman's 16 mm film collection.  Watch this space for further details.

It IS Friday, isn't it??

G.

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Current Talk '05 II / Re: Ep 564/565 Question
« on: August 25, 2005, 02:27:23 PM »
I'm not sure that it was ever mentioned more than in this one episode.  It might have come up in a scene Joe and Maggie had shortly after this.

G.

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I'd love to see a couple of captures of the fabulously talented Virginia Vestoff on that show.  Hope it was a good role for her.

G.

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MB, darling, have you been nipping into Roger's brandy cabinet again?

playfully, Gothique

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