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Connie dear, that's adorable!

Many thanks for all the good wishes! I surely do appreciate them.

G.

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Current Talk '06 II / Re: Vampire bat
« on: July 28, 2006, 03:21:41 PM »
Thanks!  It's nice to know that some of you find my more arcane ramblings of interest.

I'm reading one of Doreen Valiente's books at the moment and in a passage I read just this morning, she discusses some lore around the "Fetch" of the Witch.  She cites a tale by Dorothy L. Sayers, "The Cyprian Cat," which uses some of this lore as a springboard.  Valiente does indeed mention bat, cat and wolf as favorite forms a Witch would take when projecting her spirit out of body in disguise.  So there is an obvious link between Witchcraft lore and legends of lycanthropy.

G.

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Current Talk '06 II / Re: quentin in the "present"
« on: July 28, 2006, 03:18:37 PM »
Another stellar element of the 1840 storyline is Chris Pennock's work as Gabriel Collins.  By far Pennock's most nuanced, emotionally plausible characterization on the series, I think.

I also enjoy John Karlen's work as Kendrick Young in PT 1841 because it is so unlike anything else he did on the series.  He gets to play the young romantic hero--more in the vein of Jane Austen than Bronte (that's Frid as Bramwell--even his name is Brontean), I think.  His courting scenes with Nancy Barrett are adorable, and of course I love watching him cross swords with Grayson's acid-tongued Aunt Julia.

G.

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Polls Archive / Re: DS Religions
« on: July 27, 2006, 08:02:49 PM »
I personally regard Atheism as a religion in everything but name.  Technically, Atheists have DEFINITIVE views on the nature of reality every bit as ironclad as the metaphysical propositions of many of the world's religious systems.

Agnosticism, on the other hand, seems more to me a way of looking at the world and thinking about things.  Technically, it is too open ended to be codified into a system.  Just my view.  I haven't checked the all high and mighty Wikipedia which is the New Bible of the Holy Church of the Information Superhighway to see what it says on these topics.

I realize that many folks use Atheism and Agnosticism interchangeably but from my own studies I regard them as creatures of two very different world-views.

G.

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Thanks, again, to all of you for wishing me well!  I had a lovely day.

Jean-Claude, you know you're KIILLING me with that card!

cheers, G.

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Current Talk '06 II / Re: quentin in the "present"
« on: July 27, 2006, 03:09:57 PM »
Hi Mscbryk,

I certainly respect your decision not to watch the final months of the series--I've done that with other shows--I only watched about half of the final season of Babylon 5 (although I did finally view my tape of that last episode, mainly because it was originally filmed as the finale of Season 4), and the same with Beastmaster--both shows in which I found my interest failing due to poor writing and poor production strategies.

Despite some spectacularly awful plot decisions, there are some gems in 1840 and PT 1841.  I think the most notable to me are Virginia Vestoff's performance as Samantha which really is some of the best acting in the entire series, and some of Grayson's scenes as PT Aunt Julia Collins (originally a widow, she then became a spinster, poor dear--no wonder she often seemed tetchy!).  I also ADORE Joan's early scenes as Flora, the pixilated romantic novelist.  Hysterical!  Unfortunately somebody or other decided they needed to tone the character WAY down and she soon became yet another version of Joan's iron matriarch character--still fun, but not all that noteworthy.

cheers, Gothick

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Current Talk '06 II / Episode 21
« on: July 26, 2006, 08:37:21 PM »
I just love the selection of snapshots from Episode 21 on today's slideshow.  It almost seems like the theme is "Dark Shadows Salutes the Bright Lights of Broadway"!  In the first one, it looks as if Burke and "friend" are singing "I Whistle a Happy Tune" from "The King and I."  The second one could be Vicki and Carolyn doing that big number from "West Side Story," "I have a love" (I'm probably getting the title wrong), while the third one has to be Collinwood's unique version of "How you solve a problem like Maria" from "The Sound of Music."  (Don't you think Liz would be a natural as a Mother Superior.)

I'm not sure which big B'way hits involve telephones so I am at a loss to come up something with the final shot of Burke on the phone.

G.

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OMG, Heather, that is too funny!  I LOVE that scene!!!

Thanks, to Midnite and all, for remembering my solar return!  I was almost ten when I started watching DS in June of 1968--YOU do the math!

Bette, you're a genius!  A Grayson Hall marathon is just the thing to make my day perfect!  Heck, a Grayson blitz would make ANY day Heaven on Earth!

cheers, Steve

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Current Talk '06 II / Re: Vampire bat
« on: July 26, 2006, 04:02:45 PM »
The original bat in 1795 is what in Ceremonial Magic is often called a Servitor.  It is a being fashioned out of the Sacred Elements in combination with the Will of the Magician and exists to perform specific tasks.  In Angelique's case, she created it to spy on Barnabas and be her eyes and ears where she was not present.  When you create one, you are supposed to be very specific and sensible craftsmen with solid training will usually give a specific date or circumstance for the dissolution or "death" of the creature so it doesn't run around wreaking havoc after it's done what you wanted.  They often take the form of mythological animals such as griffins or unicorns but such beasts as cats or bats are also popular. Somewhat confusingly, there is another tradition of a Witch creating a cat, a bat, a bird, a wolf or other animal as her "Fetch."  It is linked to her life essence and if it is harmed, the Witch can suffer harm as well.  There is a story about this in the Silver John stories written from Appalachian folklore by one of the old writers--Manly Wade Wellman, maybe?  And some folklore was collected in a recent volume on faery and werewolf legends by a French scholar that has been published in English.

When Jeb summoned the Bat from Hell during the Leviathan period, that bat was clearly of demonic nature.  I think that technically speaking, it was a critter of a very different kind from Ange's bat in 1795.  Of course both were played by the same Bil Baird puppet, and I'm sure I have written far more than anyone wanted to know on this subject.

cheers, Gothick

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Current Talk '06 II / Re: quentin in the "present"
« on: July 26, 2006, 02:09:29 PM »
Hmmm. Well, maybe when Barnabas and Julia time-warped, even though when they got back everyone SAID it was 1970, it was really... 1975???

What really bugs me, Mscbryk, about the sloppy continuity in this part of the show, is all the hints and clues they gave during the Summer of 1970 about the Java Queen, Gerard's pirate crew, Gerard and Daphne's shipboard romance, Tad and Hallie's closeness to Gerard and Daphne, etc. etc. and then in 1840, NONE of this shows up!  at all!

Of course the same thing happens in the run-up to the 1795 storyline.  Nearly everything we're told about the histories of Barnabas, Jeremiah, and Josette ca. 1837 is disregarded when Vicki arrives in 1795.  Somehow, though, the 1970 continuity gaffe just seems WAY more outrageous to this viewer.

A New England curmudgeon,

G.

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Current Talk '06 I / Re: Parallel Time
« on: July 25, 2006, 10:15:38 PM »
I just double-checked, and those last 4 tracks have an asterisk which marks them as "bonus tracks."  I presume they are bonus to the previous release which must be the one you have.

Does yours include a couple of extremely rare photos in the inlay "booklet" (which is only two pages in mine)?  Mine has a shot of Joe giving Maggie a kiss (from a 1968 publicity session from which another picture of the two together has been much more widely circulated), a picture of Quentin in his post-werewolf shredded clothing posing in the drawing room set, shots of Gregory Trask and Magda, and a photo of Liz and Carolyn together from Episode 2--all seldom if ever seen elsewhere (by me).

Best, G.

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Current Talk '06 I / Re: Parallel Time
« on: July 25, 2006, 08:59:27 PM »
Sorry to rehash this again, but I just got out my copy of the CD, "Original Music from Dark Shadows, volume 4," dated 1990 on the Media Sound Records label (once distributed by MPI).  I gather this is now out of print.

Anyhow, the final track on this disc, track 28, is a 2.24 minute version of Ode to Angelique arranged for solo piano.  Part of it was heard several times on the series when Bruno would be seen tickling the ivories (as we used to say) with what seemed to be not just his favorite, but his ONLY composition (I think he played it so much because he knew how much Quentin loathed it).

I played the track through and it's just piano--no music box or other sound effects.  Really very pretty music.

Let's hope this track is included on the massive new set Darren mentioned in an earlier post.

Best, G.

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Current Talk '06 II / Re: DS Cookbook
« on: July 25, 2006, 08:12:11 PM »
Hi Charles, I have it at home and if I can remember, I will post it in this thread tomorrow.  It sounds like fun but I have never tried it.

G.

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Current Talk '06 II / Re: DS Cookbook
« on: July 25, 2006, 05:10:32 PM »
Well, Diana's book is called "I'd rather eat..."  The great lady did not say anything about actual COOKING, now did she???

Grayson had a recipe for a grape dessert that was published in at least two daytime TV mags back around 1970-71.  In interviews she mentioned vitella tonnata and carpaccio (which is sort of like beef sushi), the latter of which she first sampled at Harry's Bar in Venice, Italy, as among her favorite dishes.  She was known for her flair with Mexican cookery but in the Sixties identified herself as a French chef (I think this may have been Julia Child's influence).

Best, G.

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Polls Archive / Re: A seriously laughing matter
« on: July 24, 2006, 10:36:41 PM »
Since I just watched it recently, I would go with Nicholas' evil laughter at Cassandra's new "manicure."  (Clever thing to call it!)  It's understated and, if evil laughter can ever sound natural, fairly plausible. 

I do like Angelique's evil laugh but all too often they replaced it with some canned laugh from an actress who sounded as if she'd gotten into Roger Collins' secret Scotch stash.

Special mention has to made of Julia's demented laughter when lawyer Tony Peterson states his belief that Roger is the individual Julia does not want to get his paws on her diary.  I just love the Divine One's laughter from beyond the border of sanity: "Ra-ha-ha-ha-ha-HA-jerr!" Great stuff.

G.

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