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Current Talk '07 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0239
« on: February 22, 2007, 09:54:42 PM »
This is by and large a pointless observation, but I'll make it anyhow.

In the original 1967 storyline, Barnabas' great love for Josette was [spoiler]finally revealed to be a complete will-o-the-wisp.  In a conversation between Julia and Barnabas in an October '67 episode, Julia ALMOST gets Barnabas to admit that Josette never really did return his love.  He certainly gets very annoyed with her "poking and prying."  It's implied that the only love Barnabas really knew as a human was from Sarah.  Remember how, when he was with Miss Winters in the Old House during his initial arrival, he laughs bitterly at the notion of there ever having been any "love" in that house.

All this implies that Barnabas' original story was much more tragic--and emotionally twisted--than the romantic narrative eventually revealed in the 1795 storyline.  Of course, the original story would have been a lot less satisfying, emotionally, for the audience, had they kept to it for Vicki's time travel back to the past.

Montague Summers reports a number of versions of the folk tradition that a suicide may return as a vampire, as a nosferatu, and I wonder whether Art Wallace had intended this as the original backstory to Barnabas' existence as one of the living dead.[/spoiler]

G.

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I thought Virginia was a truly phenomenal actress.  Her performance as Samantha never fails to Wow me.

Maybe somebody will post a couple of snapshots of Virginia in the Wedding (makes note to see whether the movie is available in any format...).

G.

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I don't mean at all to rain on the parade, but does anyone know how Mr. Frid feels about this?  I have heard that he is a fairly private person and basically wants to be left alone at this point in his life.

I thought of this because shortly before this topic was posted, I was both amused and said to hear that Ennio Morricone (I think--my short term memory is in tatters these days) is going to receive an honorary Oscar this year, and he is upset about it because he never wanted one in the first place.  (I just checked the IMDB news item on this and it seems that he isn't THAT unhappy about it after all.)

Just thought I'd ask.

G.

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Well honestly Arashi, I haven't even seen the movie of the League--everything I have read about it makes me want to vomit, so why lacerate myself with the actual experience.  I asked my roommate whether Stuart Townsend removed his clothing because, if he had (particularly if he had displayed full frontal nudity), there might have been SOME incentive to see it, but, no dice.  I gather the movie was geared towards thirteen year old mall rats with videogame fetishes.

I also found it fascinating how in the comic books

[spoiler]Mina's neck wounds had not healed after the vampire's destruction.  It made me wonder whether Alan Moore had considered doing a Dracula story somewhere down the line.  It WAS one of the great moments of sheer shock when Mina's unveiling occurred--in circumstances that were already shocking to the max!  Of course, if one recalls the description of Dracula's TUSKS in the original novel, it isn't surprising that the marks he would leave would be hideous, mauling scars, rather than the discreet little holes of the classic films... In the novel, did one of the characters describe the throat marks as being "two little wounds, white with red centers"--this line is given to van Helsing in the original Lugosi film.[/spoiler]

I do go on, don't I?

G.

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Current Talk '07 I / Re: Valentines Day Episode?
« on: February 15, 2007, 08:55:04 PM »
MB, darlin', you know I'm LMAO at your list!  You definitely understand the Dark Shadows approach to romantic love.

I'm not really one for anything related to that holiday, but for me the most romantic episode, when it comes to REALNESS, was in the 1995 sequence when

[spoiler]Julia had briefly broken free of Gerard's thrall and told Barnabas to get away from her and return to their own time, leaving her behind.  Barnabas takes her into his arms, holds her tight, and murmurs those stirring words:  "Not without you.  NEVER without you."  For me, THAT is IT when it comes to romance on the show.[/spoiler]

I do agree that the final two episodes supply a more conventional happy ending.  As Miss Brodie said on a memorable occasion, "For those who like that sort of thing, that's the sort of thing that they like."  I do think that Melanie and Kendrick make a truly adorable couple...

Oh, another fabulous moment for MB's list occurred to me:

[spoiler]Quentin goes down to the Netherworld to fetch Amanda Harris, in a storyline inspired by the Greek myth of Orpheus and Eurydice.  Because she can't keep her paws off him, Amanda gets buried alive under a ton of rubble.  What more festive way to celebrate the Triumph of True Love? *BWAhahahahaha!*[/spoiler]

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '07 I / Re: grayson hall film showing
« on: February 15, 2007, 05:44:12 PM »
Oh, you'll have a great time!  I saw it twice at the Museum of Modern Art when it was shown in conjunction with a Warhol-themed Sixties show.

Just to let you know, Grayson comes on in the beginning, and then about 45 minutes go by before her next scene.  I think she has four scenes altogether in the movie.  It's a very Sixties jumble of different stories that randomly intersect, sometimes in a very incoherent manner (this sort of thing is where Tarantino got the idea for the structure of Pulp Fiction).

A detail I happened to notice on one of the viewings (it was also shown twice at a film archive here in Boston) is that Grayson's cigarettes in the movie are Marlboros.  I don't know whether this is what she actually smoked in real life.

cheers, Steve

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Thanks for letting us know.

There is an audience tape from one of the Preview nights of Grayson in Happy End (sound only, unfortunately).  It does not seem to have been videotaped officially--the only thing in Billy Rose is a segment (Bilbao song, I think?) that was staged on the Tony Awards that year.

Even more unfortunately, this one tape that has surfaced was recorded when Shirley Knight was still in the role subsequently taken over by Meryl Streep.

G.

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Hi Vlad, Dracula was first associated with the Black Mass in Hammer's 1969 classic "Taste the Blood of Dracula" (now available in a truly gorgeous DVD which *radically* altered my opinion of this film--the photog is simply stunning).  They repeated this theme in subsequent films, notably "Dracula A. D. 1972" and "The Satanic Rites of Dracula."

The sexualization of Lucy's staking is in the original book, in a very sick and twisted way.  Bram Stoker seems to have had some serious issues around his own sexuality.  Granted, in the book they did not stage Lucy's staking in the over-the-top way that it was done in this new movie.  That truly was gratuitous to the point of being laughable.

Although I enjoyed watching it, there were a number of sequences where I had no idea how the actors got through their scenes without falling about in helpless laughter at the idiocy of the proceedings.

I look forward to seeing Marc Warren in future work of a better calibre.  He's in an episode of the new Dr. Who series I haven't had time to watch yet.

G.

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Current Talk '07 I / Re: The fate of Roxanne in 1970 PT
« on: February 13, 2007, 07:58:58 PM »
I am dying here.  Thanks for the larf, lori!  I needed it!

cheers, G.

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Current Talk '07 I / Re: Dameon Edwards
« on: February 13, 2007, 07:54:45 PM »
I thought there were a couple of amusing scenes in Dameon's storyette.  The idea of someone roaming the halls of Collinwood for all eternity trapped in an Ohrbach's leisure suit is, in and of itself, pretty damn funny.  I also found it amusing that Trask and Bruno basically had a meltdown once they learned Dameon had returned.

I recall that one of those episodes, a black and white filmed kinescope, was missing its soundtrack.  Does anybody know whether MPI was able to restore the sound on the DVD release of that show?

cheers, G.

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Current Talk '07 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0232
« on: February 13, 2007, 05:22:31 PM »
Wow.  That scene between Jason and Willie is so brilliant it almost eclipses the suspense and harrowing emotional rollercoaster brought on by the steady progress of Maggie's "illness."

Again, I thought the camerawork throughout was brilliant.  All the more so given that they were flying by the seat of their pants on this show.  There are a number of beautifully accomplished shots, but the most haunting, for me, is the silhouette of Willie's battered face in the half-light of the Old House drawing room.  The contrast between the elegant setting and this memento of Barnabas' ravening violence is nothing less than stunning.  And Karlen's performance foregrounds the quiet pathos beautifully here.

G.

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In the Fall of '69 I watched Strange Paradise on Channel 5.  I think it aired right after DS.

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For the most part, I enjoyed it.  The two stars of the production were the photography and Marc Warren's performance.  I liked Warren simply because he played the part with a different twist.  Since so little of the dialogue or story from the book was used, it made it easier to accept Dracula being very different from how he was described in the book.

Mina seemed to have been inspired by the portrayal of Mina in the comic book series, The League of extraordinary gentlemen (not to be confused with the disastrous film of the same title).  I actually thought certain scenes may have owed a debt to Dark Shadows. Mina and Lucy's meeting with Dracula on the Whitby cliffs, for one.  (I don't think they actually filmed in Whitby.  For my money, Dan Curtis' use of Whitby locations was really quite imaginative in his version of this tale.)

G.

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Current Talk '07 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0231
« on: February 12, 2007, 10:07:38 PM »
A historic episode indeed:  Robert Gerringer's debut on DS.

I am LOL over Lori's speculation that Sam bought those shirts in bulk!  You have to wonder whether this same was true of some of those ugly dresses they made Julia wear, week after week!

G.

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Current Talk '07 I / Re: did she lead him on?
« on: February 12, 2007, 01:10:03 AM »
I love the scene where Julia tries to "tactfully" set Vicki straight about Barn's interest in her.  Vicki's display of naivete in this scene is practically beyond belief.

Either Vicki was being disingenuous in a way that practically defies description, or this is a little beyond the thin end of the wedge of Vicki Winters being turned into Little Miss I-Don't-Understand.

You're right, this is great storytelling, but the thought of witnessing some of this stuff in a real-life contacts is enough to make one writhe in embarrassment for the parties involved.

G.

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