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Current Talk '07 II / Re: i'm doing 1840...finally
« on: September 25, 2007, 04:29:08 PM »
I watched those shows on the original b'cast in 1970 and the vampire's identity really came out of left field for me.  I actually remember that scene where the unknown vampire was influencing Julia into a doze and we saw the creature as a shadowy figure and I swear it looked as if "he" was wearing a sombrero and a cape and I remember thinking, "Oh My God, the Cisco Kid has become One of the Living Dead!!!"  (some may not have a clue regarding the humor in this)

1970 was kind of the banner year for Lesbian Vampires, wasn't it?  The Vampire Lovers and Daughters of Darkness (starring out own Johnny Karlen) were both filmed in that year, and soon after followed a bevy of films such as Les Vampyres and Vampyros Lesbos and then the lesbian sequence in Count Yorga Vampire... it was quite a fad for a time.

I really wish they had done at least one scene between Maggie and her Vampire Mistress.  I noticed that when Julia fell victim to the same Vampire in 1840, they were very careful never to show the two together and Julia being dominated, both psychically and perhaps sensually, by another woman.

They could show John Yeagar licking Maggie Collins' necklace but they couldn't show THAT.

G.

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I keep seeing this topic and mis-reading it as "Dark Shadows Curse" and hearing Julia scream:  "WILLIEEEEEE!!! get me the stake, NOW!"

*cheeky grin*

G.

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Current Talk '07 II / Re: i'm doing 1840...finally
« on: September 24, 2007, 05:49:54 PM »
John Karlen as Kendrick is *luscious* but just doesn't have all that much to do.  Particularly after a certain plot development.  His scenes with Nancy Barrett are a highlight of the remainder of DS.

I forgot to mention that this period (really the entire final 12 months of the series, but this period in particular) was, for MANY years, a Holy Grail for fans, because up until I think around 1993, this period had never been syndicated out or shown on television in any form and what fans had to go on for it were publicity photos, stills and people's Dark Shadows Journals (also, some people had taped each episode at home and then lovingly preserved the tapes--I think those fan cassette tapes were used to replace dialogue that was missing on the master tapes, most notably in the missing episode towards the end of the series).

When fans finally got to see it again (I think on Sci Fi; if memory serves, the Sci Fi airing pre-dated the VHS release of these shows, but I could be wrong about that), it was a huge rush for oldtime fans and probably something the like of which DS fans will never see again.  I think this may be part of why the reaction to how certain developments was handled in 1840 has proven so durably extreme in fandom--that, and the nature of the crowning denouement of 1840, which a lot of fans find simply unacceptable (in various ways, of course).

As for the Summer of 1970, what I don't get is why they set up such a different backstory from events as they actually staged them in 1840.  I can only presume that the writers were working under their own reconnaissance and then at some point DC came in and saw what was planned and yelled, "A shipboard romance on THIS show?  Whaddya think our budget is--the national debt???" Or words to that effect.

cheers, G.

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Hi Claude, yes, that is the beginning of The Deadly Bees.  It's a wildly campy sequence!  The rest of it I found rather anti-climactic...

G.

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Current Talk '07 II / Re: i'm doing 1840...finally
« on: September 21, 2007, 07:55:20 PM »
Things I adore about 1840:

The incredible Virginia Vestoff and her scorchingly brilliant work as Samantha

Joan Bennett's *initial* characterization as Flora (who all too quickly turns back into Reigning Dowager of Collinwood--but Joan does get to have some fun first!)

Nancy Barrett's return as another Faye--Leticia (presumably Pansy's Grandmother???)

The *initial* Judah Zachery storyline (I won't mention here where I think it jumps the shark since it involves a *major* spoiler)

There are some other moments that shine involving specific scenes but, again, as this involves major spoliation, I won't bring them up here.

Chris Pennock is really brillaint as Gabriel, too, although I find that a little bit of the character goes a long way.

Hope you enjoy watching the shows!  I gather you've never seen PT 1841, either?

G.

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How interesting.  and how fascinating to learn that someone would pay $150 for one of these!  I bet some of the other performers on the series are kicking themselves that they didn't hang onto this sort of thing.

I realize this is mind-numbingly trivial, but the sheet that is labelled for 1969 is actually for the beginning of January, 1970.  It shows roles for the Leviathan storyline which did indeed begin in November of 1969--but if I'm reading it correctly, the dates on this sheet are for January which must be '70.

Back to my job and to pretend I have a life, hahaha.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '07 II / Re: Looking for Roger Davis Brut Ad
« on: September 19, 2007, 04:53:56 PM »
Lydia, you're a genius!

laughing hysterically,

G.

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Current Talk '07 II / Re: Sept 19th - Talk Like a Pirate Day
« on: September 19, 2007, 04:28:34 PM »
Why Sept. 19?

Is this the anniversary of the day [spoiler spoiler spoiler] a herd of dead pirates (probably drunk as well--you know pirates) showed up for a party at Collinwood and wound up TOTALLY trashing the place???

Damn that Gerard Stiles and his foofy green flag.

G.

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Testing. 1, 2, 3... / Re: OT - Happy 25th :-)
« on: September 18, 2007, 09:29:05 PM »
Twenty-five years of smiley faces.

How simply, sickeningly, gut-wrenchingly ... lovely.

G. (can you tell I'm clenching my teeth?)

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Hi Brian,

I read an account of the theatrical release print butchering of VOH from an old issue of Castle of Frankenstein back in the day and it seems as if the chopping of that film was pure politics by the MPAA.  From what I recall, the censors were at the breaking point of frustration due to their failure to curb the trend of graphic violence in films, as seen in such then-recent releases as The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, The Exorcist, and the oeuvre of Sam Peckinpah.

It almost seems as if someone at the MPAA had it in for Amicus studios, as well--Amicus was then on their last legs.

Whenever I manage to get hold of the UK region 0 release of VOH, I'll post a short notice about it here.  Perhaps Tim Lucas will do an article about this in Video Watchdog--it seems like the perfect topic for that mag.

G.

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Current Talk '07 II / Re: Episode 1104
« on: September 18, 2007, 05:32:50 PM »
I love to think of Grayson cooking up a Mexican lunch for Clarice with perhaps Constance Ford (another very distinguished actress in soaps--her role in the late 1950s soapy flick The Summer Place was priceless) as a fellow guest.   I love the scene during Tom Jennings storyline where Julia asks Mrs J to darken the room for her--great stuff!

Of course Jules did describe Mrs J as a "neurotic hysteric" or something equally cutting and unkind when Mrs J was simply reporting what she was seeing during the days of Quentin's haunting at Collinwood...

Clarice brought so very much to her roles on the show, but it's nice to know that afterwards she enjoyed even greater artistic fulfillment in her new career as a writer.  Clarice's performances are one of the *many* reasons why I'm glad I get to see the Shadows shows again as an adult.  I really didn't have a proper appreciation of her as a child.

G.

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Current Talk '07 II / Episode 1104
« on: September 18, 2007, 03:39:58 PM »
Was Episode 1104 Mrs Johnson's last appearance?

I do appreciate her brilliant thesping so much, watching the series as an adult...

G.

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Oh, I remember this well!  I remember being stunned when I realized that Art Wallace was writing the thing in real time, so that with each episode we more or less got another half hour of Vicki's adventrue-filled first night and day at Collinwood.

This is basically why Alex had to wear that damned coat for what seemed like a week...

G.

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Fans,

Looks as if Fox Studios continues to give new meaning to the phrase "blood-spattered screen" with this week's twofer release of the Amicus classics Tales from the Crypt (1971) and Vault of Horror (1973).  From patron reviews posted today on Amazon.com (I have not been able to find reviews of the disc elsewhere), I gather that my worst fears have been released and Fox have chosen to release the butchered 1974 US MPAA-approved theatrical print of Vault of Horror.  Genre specialists were scandalized by the state in which the film debuted in US theatres back in the day.  I've never seen but have read lurid descriptions of butchered segment finales replaced by clumsy freeze-frames for more than one of the episodes in this typical Amicus omnibus entry (if you've seen Dr Terror's House of Horrors, Torture Garden, From Beyond the Grave, or any number of other titles in the Amicus catalogue, you've basically seen Vault of Horror).  I am particularly upset by this news because I've been waiting for years to see this one in a restored print, as it includes pairings of some of my favorite British thespians; notably Daniel and Anna Massey cast as brother and sister in the first and Glynis Johns and Terry-Thomas as husband and wife in a later segment.

Fortunately, a Region 0 UK release of Vault of Horror is available from British dealers on eBay and Amazon.co.uk.  This is now my sole court of resort for finally getting to see this one, it would appear.

I recommend another entry in the new releases from Fox: Devils of Darkness (a completely forgotten, stylish little film from 1965) paired with Witchcraft, a 1964 release directed by Don Sharp that's circulated for years in low-quality bootleg prints.  Both films have story elements that fans will find reminiscent of Dark Shadows, and from what I can determine, both films have been released in decent quality prints by Fox.

G.

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Current Talk '07 II / Re: today's slideshow
« on: September 12, 2007, 03:31:11 PM »
That was the day the Pod People made their clumsy attempt to infiltrate Collinsport.  Before the Pod Carolyn had spent even a single day at the Great House, the real Carolyn returned and decimated her alien imposter with a super-strength can of Aquanet.  It holds, and holds, and HOLDS!

"Marilyn" Ross later attempted to write a novel about this, but his innate insipidity took over and the truth was never told ... until now!

cheers, G.

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