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Current Talk '08 I / Re: Count Petofi
« on: April 03, 2008, 08:21:21 PM »
Mysterioso darling, Grayson Hall (Praise be upon Her Name!) mentioned in a fan interview tape recorded in March 1973 (btw, this is the same item that has circulated for years on the fan bootleg market as an interview taped in '74) that the ratings started to go down during the "Quentin/Petofi mind-switch thing."  I think she actually uses those words to describe it.  I can't recall whether she mentions that they received letters complaining about it or simply that the monthly figures were down during that time--probably both.

All sorts of arguments keep being mentioned about DS and the ratings and I have come to take all talk of such matters with more than just a scattering of salts.  I seem to recall years ago someone trotting out figures that showed that during the early 1967 Laura Collins storyline, the show actually had very respectable viewing figures, which calls into question the notion of the introduction of Barnabas saving a foundering show that had barely registered on anyone's radar theretofore.

Let the Count Petofi lovefest continue!  I just love the episode where Beth blurts out to the evilly gloating Count "you're mad!" and without missing a beat, he ripostes, "Perhaps so, but at the very least I am most far-sighted in my madness!"  Gotta love Petofi.

G.

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Current Talk '08 I / Re: Count Petofi
« on: April 03, 2008, 02:25:55 PM »
What a great topic!  It's interesting to see favorable discussion here of Count Petofi's return on the show.  The perception among the writers and the crew was that the Petofi storyline in 1897 dragged on way too long for the patience of viewers--this was blamed for a perceived initial drop in ratings.  The Petofi/Quentin body switch storyline which lasted a month and featured some really way-out plot twists (and one of my personal all-time favorite moments on DS--that shot of the DS skeleton tarted up in Wanda Paisley's tea-gown, wig, and big feathery aigrette--not to mention the whole return-of-Judith storyline, which I LOVE) was blamed in particularly for turning into a major turn-off for much of the viewership.  From what I can determine, it seems to me that they received a lot of hate-mail from the fans complaining about this, and the root of the complaints may have really been Jonathan Frid's one month vacation from the show, not the Petofi story and character in particular.

Anyhow, I definitely agree that a return of Count Petofi during the never-produced 1971 storyline would have been most welcome.

G.

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It was nice to see this yesterday.  Thanks so much for sharing it.

I'm really sorry that we never got to see Prentice in a different role and setting on the show.  I don't think Morgan was the best showcase for what he had to offer (apart from those trousers, of course--lol!).

cheers, G.

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Current Talk '08 I / Re: the dinner party
« on: March 25, 2008, 02:09:26 PM »
I think it's worth remembering just how much time the special effects took up in the seven or eight hours they had between arrival at the studio and taping at 3:15 ... MANY of the actors have commented upon how setting up the FX (primitive though they look to today's viewers) resulted in considerably less rehearsal time.  Actors did their best to make up for this by going over scenes on their own, but obviously this didn't always work out given the exigencies of blocking, the cameras, etc. all of which of course came into play with chromakey FX.

I got a couple more of the MPI DVD sets in the recent amazon sale (sets 3 and 4, specifically) and in one of them there's an interview with Nancy Barrett and at one point she just laughs and says "well, for one thing, you have to understand that it was all INCREDIBLY under-rehearsed!"  I'd rarely heard that point argued so bluntly but I think this has a lot to do with that air of barely controlled insanity we associate with certain episodes of the show.

I love it how in the various sequences in 1968 where Angelique and Nicholas pay calls upon Diabolos, the entire set fills up with mist from all the dry ice and smoke machines... I think this happened with a couple of the Maggie-wandering-around-Eagle-Hill scenes in '67, too.  That studio really was a tiny little thing.

G.

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Just to follow up ... I did order the Best of Checkmate season one collection, with Anthony George (co-starring with Sebastian Cabot and a youthful Doug McClure).  I watched several of these last weekend and they're great fun.

I checked the cast list for the episodes on the season 2 set and noticed another future DS alumnus, Dennis Patrick, on one of the shows they'll be releasing this week.

Best, G.

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Current Talk '08 I / Re: the dinner party
« on: March 24, 2008, 02:16:54 PM »
I remember those episodes well.  I particularly enjoyed the shows where Maggie had Joe over at the cottage and was more or less courting him, impressing him with her knowledge of nautical argot.  I believe the reviewer of the DS: The Beginning set 3 on DVD talk complained that he found these scenes boring, but I thought they were among the highlights of that period because both Crothers and Scott were so good at what they were doing with these scenes.  In the later years, we never got to see them act this kind of scene.

G.

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Current Talk '08 I / Re: Barnabas and Sabrina Stuart
« on: March 24, 2008, 02:13:52 PM »
Hi Gerard,

First, a thank you for your many witty posts here.  I've lost track of how many times you've lightened an otherwise dreary day with your hysterically dry sense of humor!

Consistency is the last thing I have learned to expect on DS, but I do recall that Angelique (probably the most vicious of all DS' vampires) lost interest in Joe Haskell once Nicholas gave her permission to "visit" Barnabas (as a child, I was always intrigued by this particular euphemism on DS).  Poor Joe still craved the kiss of Ange's fangs, and we all know what her response was. 

So, I would tend to agree with other fans that once Barnabas was in Parallel Time, his power over Sabrina was either broken altogether, or weakened sufficiently that Chris was able to talk her into leaving town with himself and Amy.  I would imagine that Quentin gave them some help, practical as well as financial, given his avuncular interest in Chris towards the end of the Leviathans story.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '08 I / Re: OT (Semi): The Wolfman
« on: March 21, 2008, 09:31:04 PM »
Golly.  There sure are a lot of BUNNIES on here!!

If folks out there who enjoy Werewolf stories ever get the chance, check out this short lived series from around 1990, She-Wolf of London (also known as Love and Curses).  The first fourteen episodes of that show were produced in England and I think a lot of people here would enjoy those shows.  The remaining six were done in LA and weren't as good although I still enjoyed them (a law firm that turns out to be run by vampires ... who'd a thunk?? *rolls eyes*).

The show starred Kate Hodge as an American overseas student in the UK who gets bitten by a werewolf on a camping expedition.  Neil Dickson plays her mythology professor who decides to try to cure her of her curse.  Does this premise ring any bells for y'all?  *grins*

For Bewitched fans, in a two-part episode the pair do battle with a vicious department head by the name of Dr. Samantha Stevens.  In the LA episodes there's also a really whacky Star Trek spoof called Beyond the Beyond.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '08 I / OT (Semi): The Wolfman
« on: March 21, 2008, 04:36:01 PM »
Fans,

there's an IMDB page for a remake of the 1940 classic Universal film The Wolfman:

http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0780653/

Cast includes Benicio del Toro in the role of Lawrence Talbot that was poor Lon Chaney Jr's most iconic achievement; Emily Blunt plays the Sabrina Stuart role (if you'll pardon my conflation), and Anthony Hopkins is on board as another member of the Talbot family.  According to IMDB, location filming included work on the Chatsworth estate in England (I wonder what the ghost of Georgiana, Duchess of Devonshire thought of the proceedings?).

As most fans are aware, the Curt Siodmak screenplay for the original Wolfman was mined by DS writers for a number of features in both the Chris and Quentin storyline, including the Pentagram appearing on the face of the Wolfman's next vicitm, the use of a Pentagram charm to repel the beast, and the involvement of an unflappable gypsy crone in the tale (no sign on IMDB of who's going to play the Maria Ouspenskaya role).

G.

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Madonna is my age, which means she's about 25 years too old to play Angelique.

Of course, they could still let her try to play Julia.  Or Liz.  *ducks*

*cue music*  "Like a ma-a--a-triarch ... with my hairpiece ... primped to shine, whoa-oh-whoa-oh..."

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Liz couldn't have been carrying on a dual identity as Betty H.  Betty was the daughter of "Hanscomb," the butler.  I'm probably the only person who ever longed for a flashback to the 1940s so we could see Hanscomb in all his glory (I'm thinking something along the lines of Gosford Park here) presiding over a bevy of parlormaids and valets.  And a proper kitchen staff with a stout red-faced cook and a team of staff to assist.

I thought they seemed to be leading up to having Vicki be the illegitimate child of Betty, possibly by an affair with Roger.  But the affair could have been between Liz and Hanscomb.  It's true that Joan Bennett stated at a number of fan events in the 1980s that she had been told, or understood, that Vicki was meant to be Liz's natural daughter.  The way a number of scenes between the two were written and played definitely implies that to me.

G.

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It's nice to see such appreciation for a period in the show's history that used to be routinely dissed without defense because nobody had ever seen it (yes, that's how long in fandom I've been around).

I'm glad the DS reviews on that site have, on the whole, been of such good quality.  I just read the two Peter Gunn reviews on the site, and it sounds as if the reviewer hardly even bothered to watch more than a few moments of one show on each set.

G.

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Current Talk '08 I / Re: Old movie?
« on: March 18, 2008, 02:08:40 PM »
It's available on Amazon and one of their "vendors" is selling it new for $12.48 plus shipping.

I am afraid with material of this nature, you sometimes have to just buy the thing if you want to see it.  Unless you live in a city like Boston or San Francisco where you may be able to find it in some of the few some independent rental stores left out there (a dying breed, sadly).

FYI, I think the DVD release of this movie may be from a public domain print and thus not very good quality.  Something was posted here about it last y ear when it came out.  Check Seizure in the search engine on the site.

cheers, G.

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Current Talk '08 I / Re: Favorite ending to an episode....
« on: March 17, 2008, 08:01:56 PM »
The first thing that comes to mind is Nicholas' satanic giggling as he tells Cassandra, "Look at your hand, my dear!" and she looks in horror at the THING that lives where her hand should be ... the next day's restaging of it was even better than the previous day's cliffhanger. 

I laugh when I watch it now, but this scene actually gave both me and my sister nightmares back in 1968.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '08 I / Re: Semi-O.T...1840 and 1970
« on: March 17, 2008, 02:28:03 PM »
Hi Lydia,

I certainly remember The Forsyte Saga, although I don't remember actually seeing any episodes.  A friend of mine sent me the entire series on VHS a couple of years ago, and I had time to watch the first two parts, then put it away for a long winter night that has yet to materialize.  Stellar work all round, though.  And the cast was incredible.

G.

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