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Calendar Events / Announcements '08 I / Re: a "drag" of a reference.
« on: June 03, 2008, 08:24:30 PM »
Funny you mention this--at lunch a few weeks ago, one of my buddies shared that he had just viewed the Jackie Curtis documentary, Superstar in a House Dress (I think that's the title) and how *good* he found Curtis to be as a performer.  I asked if any clips from Women in revolt had been included, since I saw a scene from it at a Guggenheim show about Warhol and his circle--I was there (in another DS connection) because they were screening Grayson Hall's French film, Qui etes-vous, Polly Maggoo?  (now out on DVD, of course, in the William Klein box).

I had no idea that Candy referenced our beloved Mistress of Collinwood in that scene.  Priceless!

A late friend of mine loved the moment when somebody says to whoever was playing Candy Darling, "I'm kidding, Candy!" in the film, Who Shot Andy Warhol.  I think it was Stephen Dorff.  Whatever happened to him?

Candy came across in Who shot... as a rather earnest, innocent individual completely bedazzled by the world of media stardom.

cheers, G.

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Hey Sandor, Happy Birthday!  May the occasion have all the appropriate royal splendour!

cheers, G.

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Wow, it lasts 20 minutes, and yet somehow, I watched till the bitter end.  I did get a cackle out of him holding up the DVD set and the big red scare letters DON'T BUY THIS appearing on the screen.

I wonder which classic series/movie MGM will mangle and desecrate, uh, I mean, release on one of their lovely DVDS next?

cheers, G.

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Current Talk '08 I / Re: Night of Dark Shadows
« on: June 02, 2008, 05:40:12 PM »
My first viewing of NoDS was on the CBS Late Movie in the early 1970s.  The network piled on additional cuts that left the movie even less  coherent than Sam and Dan's enforced 48-hour guerilla cut at the behest of the studio execs had done.  In the 1990s, I was able to see it again and this time, I fell in love with it.  Apart from Kate Jackson who just doesn't do much for me as Tracy (apologies to KJ fans), there are wonderful moments for each of the main players (Nancy Barrett should have been given a bit more to do, though).

My regard for the movie ascended to a completely new level after I was able to see the black and white screening of the seance sequence footage at a DS Festival.  (I forget the technical reasons why the footage was screened in monochrome--Darren Gross stated as part of his fascinating presentation that the full color print does exist and, if there's ever a restoration, will appear on the DVD.)  That sequence just may be Dan Curtis' finest moment as a director, in my not-so-humble-opinion.

Another regret connected with this project that came to me when I watched a Michael Stroka interview on one of the DVD sets recently:  Michael was slated to play a flamboyant antiques dealer in Collinsport in the movie, but his scenes were cut before shooting even began. 

G.

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Current Talk '21 I / Re: New Dark Shadows Movie
« on: June 02, 2008, 05:31:48 PM »
Hmmm... Tim Burton is directing, and John August is writing the script... I foresee the Blue Whale madeover as a goth chick bar, with Maggie Evans now known as Margaretha, fronting a Siouxie and the Banshees tribute band, and being really into Barn's "deathly" vibe.

Wonder what the gaming component of the marketing will look like? 

Sardonically,

G.

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Current Talk '08 I / Re: First Impressions of the Remix
« on: May 28, 2008, 09:15:32 PM »
I agree with Brandon about the rushing of the 1790 story.  One reason for it that I had also read about, which I know most fans here are well aware of, is that the NBC suits demanded that the 1790 episodes include segments that showed what was happening in 1990, I suppose on the theory that otherwise, viewers would forget that the main story was set in the present day!  This resulted in the 1790 storyline being even MORE compressed than might otherwise have been the case.

G.

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The staircase photos (there were several of them, of course--I think a couple are still unpublished) were probably done as part of the Viewmaster people photographing for the DS Viewmaster set (check Wikipedia's entry on Viewmaster if you don't know about this--it was a big fad in the Sixties and early Seventies).  I would guess that there was very little planning for the staircase photos and it may have happened just because so many cast members happened to be on hand that day.

If it was a day when Joan, Joel, Roger, Clarice et al just happened not to be on hand (I would guess that it was done after the day's taping when some more actors had arrived for the late afternoon read-through of the next day's shoot) then that would account for why they are not in the photos--not because they were deliberately excluded.

G.

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Thayer David was also in the last episode of the series.

I also recall that one of the episodes in 1968 (the Eve/Vampilique period) had a huge number of regulars.  That was the occasion of the famous series of publicity photos where the entire 1968 cast gathered on the main staircase of the Collinwood Foyer (sometimes called the "Great Hall").

G.

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Current Talk '08 I / Re: "lemon or cream?"
« on: May 22, 2008, 08:34:23 PM »
Pennock looked Beyond Super Groovy in those tight, TIGHT leather trousers... Go Not, Happy Day!

I seem to recall that when Jeb first showed up I (then age 11) thought "he's supposed to be a hippie, but they gave him totally the wrong clothes."

G.

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Current Talk '21 I / Re: New Dark Shadows Movie
« on: May 20, 2008, 10:05:16 PM »
Hi JWS,

As I am sure others will point out, regarding the House of DS movie:
[spoiler]In the original 1967 storyline, Barnabas did attack Carolyn.  They obviously liked how the Frid/Barrett fanging chem took onscreen because they also wrote it so that Barn attacked Barrett's characters again in 1795 and in Parallel Time.  As far as kiilling off the whole family, this happened as well in PT 1970.  I know it may seem ghoulish but I kind of felt as if, at this stage of the game, they wanted to liven things up by, erm, hacking up a bunch of the family.  (Forgive my bizarre sense of humor--or, as Miss Winters would have phrased it, "How ... macabre!" [/spoiler]

All that said, I thought the HoDS film was way too much blood, fangs and violence and not enough of the character or mood stuff that was where the real magic of DS lay.

I'm frankly not optimistic that the Depp project will focus more on character and mood, but I suppose it is possible.   I am mainly looking forward to the Depp project because Warners just might FINALLY authorize spending the funds to restore the original films!  Not that I am holding my breath!

G.

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Current Talk '08 I / Re: something sam said
« on: May 16, 2008, 04:40:29 PM »
Just chiming in here to say that I was also surprised (to put it mildly) by Sam's claim that he and Gordon Russell somehow "gave Joan Bennett more to do" as Liz.  I think what he meant was that they created a brilliant storyline for Bennett as Judith (although Naomi is a favorite character of mine, she really wasn't given all that much to do--do note, however, that Naomi's speech about the death of Sarah has to rank as one of the most poignant, quietly heartbreaking moments in the entire series).  After the Jason Maguire storyline, Liz just was never written with the kind of spunk, fire, and stern New England backbone the character had shown during the first year of the series.

I also disagree with Sam about Malcolm Marmorstein.  I imagine that Sam was so dumbfounded by the notion of a vampire feeding off a cow that he couldn't get beyond the plot to see the great quality of Marmorstein's scripts.  To be honest, it's been a really long time since I watched Marmorstein's shows from the summer of '67 when Grayson was being introduced.  I do know that Marmorstein's 1966 scripts are some of the best episodes of the series (in my not-so-humble opinion).

And for the record, Grayson *was* able to tone it down and be on camera for the end of a scene without looking like "1967's answer to Mary Pickford" or however Sam described it...

G.

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It sounds like a grand show, and a wonderful tribute to one of the legends.  Peter's become something of a legend himself for those lucky enough to have seen him and his friends in their hysterical "Golden Girls hit Collinsport" skits at the Festivals...  I'll still never forget that line:  "You are about as dumb as a box of hair!"

G.

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Current Talk '08 I / Lela Swift on Joan Bennett
« on: May 13, 2008, 12:06:45 AM »
Dear fans,

this past weekend, I had time to catch up with some of my DS DVDs.  I was "test driving" my copy of set three (in the Barnabas series), and found clips from an interview with Lela Swift obviously dating to late 1990 or early 1991 (I noticed that several of the interviews on the early sets seem to be from this period). 

Lela only spent significant time discussing one actor on the show--Joan Bennett.  Lela praised how down-to-earth, warm, gracious, and generous Joan was.  She mentioned some things I had never heard discussed before.  For one thing, Lela said that Joan would arrrive, as would all the actresses, without any makeup because they needed to start out that way so the makeup for the cameras would take properly.  She said that even with just "her own eyes and her own skin," Joan always looked beautiful, even at 8 a.m.!  She also said that Joan always wanted to help, and that included helping to set up chairs for the first script reading of the day, AND running lines with anyone who needed to do so--not just people who were in her own scenes!  Lela recalled that she exclaimed to Joan at one point that she would have made a great production assistant!

Lela spoke so warmly about Joan, and her feelings for our very own "mistress of Collinwood" seemed quite genuine.  I thought it was worth mentioning for those who don't get to see the discs.

G.

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How very cool!  He mentions Sir Graves Ghastly, as well.  Sir Graves had a fabulous website that I visited a couple of years ago...

G.

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Current Talk '08 I / Re: Quentin and Jenny
« on: May 07, 2008, 03:49:15 PM »
Having re-watched a couple of the episodes in question over the weekend--
[spoiler]The scene of Jenny's death played exactly as I remembered it.  Quentin disarmed her, then pushed her down on the bed and squeezed the life's breath right out of her, his face a mask of murderous rage, while Beth screamed and wept and begged him to stop.  She died with her eyes still open, staring in horror at what was happening (unfortunately, probably due to awkwardness in manoeuvring around a rather tight sight, we didn't get a very artistic shot of Marie's face with eyes glaring sightllessly upwards at the end.

However, in a subsequent scene with Edward, both Beth and Quentin describe what happened as an "accident."  Since I have not seen the script, I've never known whether it was written to be played as if Quentin was just trying to make sure she had really been disarmed and "acciidentally" strangled her to death, or whether it was the director and David Selby's decision to play it as if Quentin was in a state of coldly murderous rage, bordering on bestial (an interesting choice of words given the curse that falls on hiim shortly thereafter).

Also, although I had not remembered it, some weeks later, when Magda has been ordered by Angelique to fetch Quentin, Quentin and Magda have a scene in which Quentin does express how much he loved Jenny and hints at feeling something like remorse for her death.  It's a short scene but the two of them play it beautifully (I think David and Grayson had great onscreen chem--they did a play together later in the Seventies, too).

One final comment--I really love the sequence of Quentin's nightmare of being forced by Magda and Sandor to bless Jenny's dead body.  I love the staging, the accompaniment by what might have been a live-on-set quiet bongo, the feel of something you could have seen in a New York off-off B'way production of the period.  Grand stuff.

[/spoiler]

G.

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