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Current Talk '08 II / Re: DS VS Star Trek? Why So Little Respect For DS?
« on: November 27, 2008, 12:31:19 AM »
Are we talking about respect, or sales?  My impression from the recent DVD reviews and all the hype around Depp Shadows is that DS has a high degree of respect and "name recognition" among more imaginative industry people, just as it does amongst more imaginative genre fans.  It's all the remarkable that this remains the case given how many years DS has been off the air.  While Star Trek has pretty much always been on some channel, in some incarnation or other, that has not been the case for DS.

I have been personally very much surprised by the endurance and vitality DS has shown as a pop culture presence.  Granted, that has a definite retro edge to it, while Trekkers are celebrating the imminent arrival of the latest movie in the series, which will unveil yet another "next generation" concept.  I do feel that the staying power of DS does show that there's a substantial number of people out there who prefer quality to the buckets of CGI glitz we get in today's entertainment.

As for people not laughing at Trekkers--what about Bill Shatner and the whole "get a life" thing?  And did you watch that movie about people whose lives revolve around Star Trek cons hosted by Denise Crosby, with the woman who attended Jury Duty in her Starfleet Uniform? 

I'm personally very thankful that the abortive Sci Fi Channel documentary which sought to portray the series and its fans as the latest freaky flavor of the decade sank without broadcast and without any visible trace!

cheers, G.

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Current Talk '08 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0679
« on: November 25, 2008, 11:41:43 PM »
I'm pretty sure this was a hairpiece.  We can ask Taeylor to have a look at some point.  He used to be a hairdresser.

MSC, there is a whole series of those shots from the day when that postcard was taken.  Several images from that series are in the first KLS book, My DS Scrapbook Memories, a volume I cherish for the candid series of Thayer David and the ravishing shot of Joan and Grayson in their chic mourning mini-skirts.

Apparently Ben Martin used to just drop in at the set and snap photos.  I don't think these were originally meant to be used for publicity.  There are a bunch from 1897 that were done for the gum cards.

cheers, G.

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Thanks for this, Jimbo.

An OT plug for the recent DVD release of the 1964 Hammer feature The Gorgon (Peter Cushing, Barbara Shelley, Christopher Lee) which has a real DS atmosphere to it, including a love affair in the shadow of Gothic horror and a score that may have inspired some of Robert Cobert's work.

The Gorgon is part of a 4 movie set which bears a title something along the lines of "Hammer Icons of Horror."  The other films in the set include The Two Faces of Dr. Jekyll, Scream of Fear (which again has an atmosphere reminiscent of the original 1966 storyline on DS), and The Curse of the Mummy's Tomb which is just a bit of trivial, silly fun.

Best,

G.

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Oh, and Diana Millay's best scene in the film (NoDS) is coming up in that restoration, too!  Mustn't forget the immortal Phoenix!

Maybe an alternate ending for NoDS could have been a reverse on the ending of hoDS--instead of [spoiler]a bat rising from nowhere and winging out into the night air,[/spoiler] a golden bejewelled sacred Bird with the head of a leering, cackling Diana Millay could have come winging down from out of nowhere into the Great Hall with claws extended towards Kate Jackson as she screams and screams and screams ...

Something to help you sleep better, dear *wink*

G.

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Glad you appreciated the zinger, Patti.  Every still I see of that performer shows him adorned with an ever-higher pompadour.  Fascinating *raises left eyebrow a la Spock*

And MB, I imagine that the gent in question had some formidable security arrangements.  Everywhere I go in town these days I hear gaggles of 13 to 15 year old girls shrieking and twittering about that movie.  Honestly, it's enough to make one feel like Tippi Hedren. *wink*

I just keep telling myself that more pub for Depp Shadows means we're that much closer to a restored release of Night of DS.  I want those missing Grayson scenes and I want the seance with full color and soundtrack, dammit!

cheers, G.

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Current Talk '08 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0658
« on: November 19, 2008, 10:09:41 PM »
I just watched this last night on the DVD set (it came a couple of weeks ago) and am more impressed with it than ever.  Sooo deliriously Brechtian, and one of the shows that feels as if it echoes NYC avant garde theatre of the day (another one is the dream that Quentin has [spoiler]after he murders Jenny, when Magda comes in with her tambourine--always love that show because it's just so ... weird![/spoiler]

The revelation that Joe was mistaken in who he thought he was talking to in the mausoleum gave me a real fright the first time I saw it.  That sequence is worthy of something out of the 1940s Universal "house of monster" films.

The episode ending in one of the most bleak scenes ever seen in DS.  Fabulous work all around.

G.

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Well.  It's not DS related, but the male lead's hair reminds me of Baron Meinster's little pouf (actually three hairpieces sewn together, apparently) in the 1960 classic Brides of Dracula, one of my personal all time favorite vampire movies. 

I really, really hope we don't see Vicki pacing the halls of Collinwood with those annoying little white earbuds and her nano-eyepod while some cheesy emo-rock sludge-a-thon plods on the soundtrack in Depp Shadows.

G.

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Current Talk '08 II / Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #09
« on: November 18, 2008, 04:44:39 PM »
Love the latest montage.  Julialique looks like the cat that ate the canary.  FABULOUS capture!!!

Trask Thinnes' caterpillar eyebrows are deeply, harrowingly, traumatizingly SCARY.  Just imagining that leering, hideous face looming over mine closer and closer would have me babbling any heresy or black mass litany that he would dictate, just to make him STOP!

For some reason, I find that photo of Vampette with blood smeared wide-open maw hysterical.  Blood by Helena Rubinstein?  This is the kind of thing I expect to see a lot of in Depp Shadows.

G.

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Well I read Alice's Adventures Underground (original title) several times as a child, saw the Disney cartoon and even took a swipe at the Annotated edition that came out in the late Sixties or early Seventies (a jewel of a book)--so, I would think that the "humanoid" characters such as Mad Hatter and Red Queen will be costumed actors, while such beings as the Caterpillar on his mushroom (Gods, I'm already hearing Grace Slick warbling dreamily in the background), the Dormouse, and the White Rabbit will use the latest fancy-schmancy winking-blinking gizmo tech from BeoWOOF (as we call it in the bear community).

I doubt whether I have the stamina for this sort of thing.  But I do find the photo of Depp Hatter very trippy and psychedelic! 

I wonder whether the present-day sequences for Depp Shadows will have a more toned down post-Victorian Goth look, while the 18th cent. flashbacks might experiment with the more trippy way-out stuff that Burton can't seem to get enough of.

Pondering,

G.

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Hmm.  To me he resembles a luridly colored version of Lon Chaney in the lost classic London After Midnight from the 1920s.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '08 II / Re: KATHRYN L. SCOTT IN A WIG?
« on: November 17, 2008, 05:01:20 PM »
Can't someone in the TLATKLS fan club just contact Miss Scott and find out whether she worked on this?

She seems very approachable and willing to talk to sincere fans.

G.

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Current Talk '08 II / Re: vicki and peter in 1991
« on: November 14, 2008, 07:40:40 PM »
It seemed as if they also planned to have a composite version of the Laura and Cassandra storylines with Lysette Anthony's return.  Now, since in 1991, Maggie is a powerful psychic (and something of a white witch) who is Roger's lover, that sets the stage for a big Magickal battle between Mags and LaurCassangelique.  *That* could have been fun since Ely Pouget showed some feisty energy in her scenes in the episodes in which she had more to do than just stand around and look pretty.

If the Prof. Stokes character came on the scene with Laura's return, it would have been interesting to see who they would have cast in that role.

G.

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Congratulations to all involved. 

On the cover, is the figure on the stairs with the flashlight by any chance from a scene in the 1991 series where Barbara Steele's Julia is about to "confront the monster in his lair"?

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '08 II / Re: KATHRYN L. SCOTT IN A WIG?
« on: November 13, 2008, 04:23:22 PM »
Katie Lee Star!  haha, it's a long time since I heard that one!

Thanks,

G.

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Anita Bolster had a great little role as a sinister housekeeper in a 1940s film I saw last year.  I believe Agnes Moorehead was in it too. 

She had a surprisingly active career--she keeps popping up in various things from the 1940s through the 1960s.

G.

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