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Current Talk '09 II / Re: Quentin's Boudoir Eyes (August 6 NoDS capture)
« on: August 14, 2009, 05:05:39 PM »
GP was the original form of the rating that the world now knows as PG-13.  Before that it was M, for Mature audiences only (if memory serves).

I expect that it meant that they played the scene with much heaving of the bosom and lips brushing against cheeks and that was about ALL. 

cheers, G.

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Current Talk '09 II / Re: Quentin's Boudoir Eyes (August 6 NoDS capture)
« on: August 14, 2009, 03:02:52 PM »
I would love to know the relationship between Grayson's autographed and annotated copy of the script (which bears the title Dark Shadows II) and Dan's shooting script with his notes which was published in the DS Movie Book.  I have had one go at trying to find my photocopy of Grayson's script. and failed, but did pull out the Movie Book and had not realized how many differences there were between the version of the script published there, and the one that circulated in fandom from Grayson.  Presumably, the published version is the "definitive" one, actually used while shooting the movie; there were apparently pages and pages of notes, scribbled over the backs of the typed script sheets, from DC about the shots, set-ups, etc.

What I remember in Dark Shadows II (presumably, a draft anterior to the one published and used at Lyndhurst for the shooting) is not just notes from Grayson about a shot of Carlotta lying on her bed holding the locket with her eyes closed intercut with shots of Q & A going at it, but actual typed scene set-ups from Sam that were part of the script.  When I track down my copy of Grayson's script, I'll report further on this.

The published version of the script does have a scene, noted as having "ad libbed" dialogue, in which Q & A are making love "GP STYLE" according to the typed direction.  I had thought that a fan on this board had an audio tape of a boudoir scene between Q & A that was in an early version of the release print and cut by the time the final print was executed for release.

cheers,

G.

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A laff riot!

"Time to give Elizabeth another ... sedative ... !"

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '09 II / Re: I had no idea that...
« on: August 12, 2009, 09:40:08 PM »
For me Joan Bennett's later hairdo (I think it first appears in early 1969) is forever associated with Lady Bird Johnson, erstwhile First Lady.  I did think it framed her face in a more "mod" way.  The hairdo that I found really strange on her was one that appeared around six weeks into the Summer of 1966.  It always makes me think as if Liz was doing a correspondence course in how to transform yourself into a geisha.  It disappeared after a couple of weeks, thankfully, never to reappear.

When all is said and done, my favorite Liz hairstyle is the "tiara" do and its variations that she had through much of 1966 and 1967.  I always associate it with her charging at that smug, smirking Burke Devlin and reading him the riot act in the Collinwood Drawing Room. Those scenes with the two of them rate among the finest moments of the series.  Later on she had a similar hairdo in her sparring with Jason Maguire. Fabulous days.

G.

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: Another New Slideshow
« on: August 12, 2009, 12:13:06 AM »
MB!  I am cackling away at Ang's dialogue from today's deleted scene. 

"Laura my darling" indeed!  What a hoot!

Thanks so much for sharing!

cheers,

G.

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Current Talk '09 I / Re: Let's talk about Elizabeth...
« on: August 11, 2009, 12:22:01 AM »
My candidate for Vicki's father is Paul Stoddard.  From what was aired, I think the resolution would have been that Paul fathered Vicki in a torrid "affair" (that could have actually bordered on rape) with Betty Hanscomb.  I think that Liz must have had some emotional tie to Betty--perhaps it was as simple as they were around the same age and played together as little girls--and felt obligated to help Betty conceal the pregnancy and when the time came, find a home for the child.

I have to confess, though, that I've always liked the theory that Liz was really Vicki's mother.  It comes out really strongly as a subtext of many scenes the two had together.

G.

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: Another New Slideshow
« on: August 11, 2009, 12:17:04 AM »
The still of Diana Millay you chose to illustrate this scene is simply ravishing, MB.

I wish Diana's dialogue track had survived.  I can really hear her saying these words.

I loved the piano sequence when I had the chance to see it at Darren's presentation some years ago.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '09 II / Re: It's Midnite's Special Day!
« on: August 10, 2009, 03:58:45 PM »
Happy, happy birthday, darling!

May you welcome a year filled with blessings of health, prosperity, joy, and children who don't hassle you over-much.

hugs,

Steve

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Calendar Events / Announcements '09 II / Re: Where is Alex Stevens?
« on: August 09, 2009, 01:42:02 AM »
Interesting.  I remember Alex appearing at a DS Festival sometime in the 90s, if I'm remembering correctly.  Great guy and he shared some great stories with the crowd.

Then a few years later one of the DS actors said something implying that Alex had fallen on hard times.  I really hope that is not the case.

G.

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Current Talk '09 II / Re: Ironic Comic Book Panel
« on: August 09, 2009, 12:49:31 AM »
What a hoot!

The hysterical thing is ... I can imagine our very own Barnabas saying that line--with a completely straight face!

Hopefully Julia would then chime in with one of her icicle-dripping comments:  "REALLY, Barnabas."

G.

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Current Talk '09 II / Re: Today's Capture: August 7
« on: August 08, 2009, 01:03:28 AM »
And tonight's new capture from 1967 has an eerie ring to it, given that it's still August 7, the day Grayson died:  Julia, in her nightgown, facing a dark caped figure whom she tells "I've been waiting for you for a long, long time."

I also think of Grayson with all the hype around the new Meryl Streep movie about Julia Child--Grayson herself loved attending cooking classes at the Culinary Institute, and I can imagine what a kick she would have gotten out of the new film.

Rest in Peace, sovereign among ladies.  We'll never forget you.

G.


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I wonder what the one-hour Friday night slot labelled "Surprise Dark Shadows screening" portends?

Hope anyone who's there can post a review.

G.

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Current Talk '09 II / Re: Quentin's Boudoir Eyes (August 6 NoDS capture)
« on: August 07, 2009, 10:17:27 PM »
In the script, [spoiler]if memory serves, it simply refers to Carlotta lying on her bed, one hand on her locket (the same locket A had given Sarah which had been passed down from Mother to Daughter and was supposed to contain the spiritual link to A), her face suffused with a blissful expression--Grayson's notes help explicate what is going on, and explain that Carlotta is meant to be the physical link through whom Q and A are able to have their trysts. [/spoiler]

It's an intriguing idea--too bad it was almost completely cut out of the existing edit, because a lot of the story fails to make sense unless you understand the specific nature of Carlotta's role in the "haunting."

G.

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Great news, and richly deserved!

I'd never heard of his appearance on Look up and live, a show of which I have very vague memories.  Interesting!

And that's a lovely photo of him, Nancy.  Congratulations!

Best,

G.

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Frid's appearance for a question put to Mama Cowsill on The Generation Gap (circa 1969?) is one I remember particularly vividly.

Grayson Hall was on an episode of Girl Talk in 1970 to promote hoDS... I think the episode no longer exists, but it's one of the Holy Grails for Hall fans.

G.

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