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Of course, everybody needs to bear in mind that once the picture is completed, months or years could go by before it is released.

It's happened before--ask fans of Joss Whedon's "Firefly" series about the history of the feature film version, "Serenity."

G.

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That's really too bad about Donna.  Hope she feels better soon.

I would love to see shots of Bewitched Shadows!  Sounds fab.

G.

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The idea of trying to somehow "explain" the time travel in DS really baffles me, when you watch the actual shows and they are so vague about how it all happens.  I thought one of the writers gave his own editorial comment to the time travel element when he had Prof. Stokes tell Jeff Clark "I am not a travel agent for time!"

The I Ching time travelling was inspired by a section in William Seabrook's circa 1940 book on Witchcraft in which he explores the notion of "atavism" and talks about experiments that were made in the 1920s where people used the I Ching in an attempt to "open a door" on the astral plane and do something along the lines of what, today, many New Age people think of as "past life regression."  The instance of the Russian lady who turned into a ravening wolf after she "went through the door" actually did involve the K'o hexagram which was how the time travel was accomplished on DS.  Needless to say, this has no connection to anything documented in the Chinese lore about the I Ching material, nor anything remotely connected with quantum physics.  It does seem to be connected with some early 20th century occultists' theorizing about "atavism" in human psychology (there's a great entry in the early 1970s "encyclopedia of the supernatural," Man, Myth and Magic, on this).

The first instance of time traveling seemed to occur as a result of the ghost of Sarah Collins intervening at a seance.  How this happened was never explained--which I personally thought made it work better as a story.  We never knew how it happened, we just know that it did. 

I think the "Staircase through time" setpiece in the final storylines, which includes a scene where Julia reads a diary entry from the 1840 Quentin in which he theorizes that time and space are one and the same dimension, *may* be something that can somehow be related to modern speculations in quantum physics... but only in a really vague way. 

If you want to give yourself a headache, try reading Warren Oddson's attempt to reconcile how there Barnabas wound up being split into two, with bodies existing in separate time continuums, but without the existing Collinwood continuity being disrupted (I use the term "continuity" here in an extremely loose way).

It's much better, IMO, to just go with the flow and take the stories for what they are--fabulous entertainment!

cheers, G.

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That's very sad about Diana Millay.  I hope that she gets better if it is true that she is "unwell."

It must have not quite seemed like a Festival without Diana ... she is always one of those people who just seems to be everywhere, and was always tremendously outgoing with the fans...

G.

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Thanks, Miranda, for the report.  Like MB, I pretty much figured on the "surprise" screening being the 2004 pilot.  I'm sorry you missed most of it.  I quite liked Alec Newman's Barnabas and Matt Czuchny (sp?) as Willie.

I love Cassandra, so it's nice that she was included among the clips.  I'm very sorry I'm missing Jerry Lacy!

cheers, G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '09 II / Re: Time to "sign in".
« on: August 14, 2009, 04:07:47 PM »
Hope some more fans have shown up to keep you company by the time you read these words!

And have a grand time!  Your comment about the "gift shop" in the "chic" hotel had me guffawing.  I hope they don't run out of baggies of chips!  Sounds as if provisions may be scant on the ground.  there's always the extra rubber chicken from the Banquet!

cheers,

G.

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Current Talk '09 II / Re: Quentin's Boudoir Eyes (August 6 NoDS capture)
« on: August 14, 2009, 04:05:39 PM »
GP was the original form of the rating that the world now knows as PG-13.  Before that it was M, for Mature audiences only (if memory serves).

I expect that it meant that they played the scene with much heaving of the bosom and lips brushing against cheeks and that was about ALL. 

cheers, G.

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Current Talk '09 II / Re: Quentin's Boudoir Eyes (August 6 NoDS capture)
« on: August 14, 2009, 02:02:52 PM »
I would love to know the relationship between Grayson's autographed and annotated copy of the script (which bears the title Dark Shadows II) and Dan's shooting script with his notes which was published in the DS Movie Book.  I have had one go at trying to find my photocopy of Grayson's script. and failed, but did pull out the Movie Book and had not realized how many differences there were between the version of the script published there, and the one that circulated in fandom from Grayson.  Presumably, the published version is the "definitive" one, actually used while shooting the movie; there were apparently pages and pages of notes, scribbled over the backs of the typed script sheets, from DC about the shots, set-ups, etc.

What I remember in Dark Shadows II (presumably, a draft anterior to the one published and used at Lyndhurst for the shooting) is not just notes from Grayson about a shot of Carlotta lying on her bed holding the locket with her eyes closed intercut with shots of Q & A going at it, but actual typed scene set-ups from Sam that were part of the script.  When I track down my copy of Grayson's script, I'll report further on this.

The published version of the script does have a scene, noted as having "ad libbed" dialogue, in which Q & A are making love "GP STYLE" according to the typed direction.  I had thought that a fan on this board had an audio tape of a boudoir scene between Q & A that was in an early version of the release print and cut by the time the final print was executed for release.

cheers,

G.

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A laff riot!

"Time to give Elizabeth another ... sedative ... !"

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '09 II / Re: I had no idea that...
« on: August 12, 2009, 08:40:08 PM »
For me Joan Bennett's later hairdo (I think it first appears in early 1969) is forever associated with Lady Bird Johnson, erstwhile First Lady.  I did think it framed her face in a more "mod" way.  The hairdo that I found really strange on her was one that appeared around six weeks into the Summer of 1966.  It always makes me think as if Liz was doing a correspondence course in how to transform yourself into a geisha.  It disappeared after a couple of weeks, thankfully, never to reappear.

When all is said and done, my favorite Liz hairstyle is the "tiara" do and its variations that she had through much of 1966 and 1967.  I always associate it with her charging at that smug, smirking Burke Devlin and reading him the riot act in the Collinwood Drawing Room. Those scenes with the two of them rate among the finest moments of the series.  Later on she had a similar hairdo in her sparring with Jason Maguire. Fabulous days.

G.

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Current Talk '21 I / Re: Another New Slideshow
« on: August 11, 2009, 11:13:06 PM »
MB!  I am cackling away at Ang's dialogue from today's deleted scene. 

"Laura my darling" indeed!  What a hoot!

Thanks so much for sharing!

cheers,

G.

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Current Talk '09 I / Re: Let's talk about Elizabeth...
« on: August 10, 2009, 11:22:01 PM »
My candidate for Vicki's father is Paul Stoddard.  From what was aired, I think the resolution would have been that Paul fathered Vicki in a torrid "affair" (that could have actually bordered on rape) with Betty Hanscomb.  I think that Liz must have had some emotional tie to Betty--perhaps it was as simple as they were around the same age and played together as little girls--and felt obligated to help Betty conceal the pregnancy and when the time came, find a home for the child.

I have to confess, though, that I've always liked the theory that Liz was really Vicki's mother.  It comes out really strongly as a subtext of many scenes the two had together.

G.

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Current Talk '21 I / Re: Another New Slideshow
« on: August 10, 2009, 11:17:04 PM »
The still of Diana Millay you chose to illustrate this scene is simply ravishing, MB.

I wish Diana's dialogue track had survived.  I can really hear her saying these words.

I loved the piano sequence when I had the chance to see it at Darren's presentation some years ago.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '09 II / Re: It's Midnite's Special Day!
« on: August 10, 2009, 02:58:45 PM »
Happy, happy birthday, darling!

May you welcome a year filled with blessings of health, prosperity, joy, and children who don't hassle you over-much.

hugs,

Steve

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Calendar Events / Announcements '09 II / Re: Where is Alex Stevens?
« on: August 09, 2009, 12:42:02 AM »
Interesting.  I remember Alex appearing at a DS Festival sometime in the 90s, if I'm remembering correctly.  Great guy and he shared some great stories with the crowd.

Then a few years later one of the DS actors said something implying that Alex had fallen on hard times.  I really hope that is not the case.

G.

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