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Current Talk '09 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0886
« on: November 19, 2009, 05:55:38 PM »
Midnite darling, thanks so much for doing the detective work of going back to those video interviews.  I don't think I"ve even played them yet.

That's pretty outrageous about Frid, since it is documented from multiple sources that not only was DC in England at the time of the casting and set-up for Barnabas, but when he came back, he actually thought they had "cast the wrong guy" since he had supposedly sent a different head shot back for the guy he wanted. (I've always wondered whether they did a reading with that guy and found out he just did not have the goods, at all.)

I've been watching Mad Men, season one, over the past couple of weeks, and a lot of DC's behavior seems rooted in the "executive culture" of the Sixties.  But he obviously was quite the maverick and had his own very strong personality... I am definitely of the school of thought that DS turned out to be an underground classic *despite* DC's input!

Thanks again!

G.

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Current Talk '09 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0887
« on: November 19, 2009, 04:04:10 PM »
I think this may be one of my all time favorite episodes of DS.  The cryptic exchanges at the beginning between the transfigured Barnabas and the two weird Leviathan Priests--the evocative gnomic utterances of the dialogue, and the intimations of powers that pre-dated the Earth's own Primal Age--were elements we had never seen before on DS.  While some felt the show had gone right round the twist, as a viewer in 1969 I was very excited by the unveiling of these new elements.  I'm presuming that I must have already been reading some Lovecraft because I recall not finding the concepts as baffling as they must have been to those who had never read the Eldritch Squire of Providence.  It was a surprise to me a month or two later to learn that many fans bitterly disliked the new storyline.

Grayson and Nancy are two of my all time favorites on the series and the chance to see them sharing so many scenes together is a rarety.  I love how they play these dialogue-heavy scenes--so naturalistically, and with Julia treating Carolyn as a confidante, which is a change from how the two interacted when last we saw them together.  Although, come to think of it, Julia was seen offering Carolyn a lot of emotional support during that dreadful period when Carolyn thought her Mother was dead--this may have been when their friendship really began.

I also love the scene where Grayson is reacting to the overheard conversation between Magda and Pansity.  Just fabulous stuff.  And then there's the way Julia says the word "DIVINE."  Gotta love it!

G.

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Current Talk '09 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0886
« on: November 18, 2009, 09:57:51 PM »
Ah, and so it begins--Love of LeviaLife!

From the point of metanarrative, this episode is very cool (or maybe it was the one before?) because we finally get a Jonathan-on-Grayson fanging sequence.  Love how the actors played it, even though I'm sure Frid, at least, was squirming (given his oft-stated objection to the fanging scenes on principle--and the outrageousness of this particular setpiece in specific).

I would LOVE to know where and when DC claimed to have "hated Leviathans from the beginning just as much as the fans did."  Even for him, that's EXTREME revisionism of established DS history.  About on the level of Mao having Liu Shao-ch'i erased after his fall from various group photographs recording certain Party functions.  But then, there never seemed any limits to DC's personal megalomania, particularly in the sphere of DS.

I love the design elements in our introduction to Haza, Oberon, and the Leviathan altar.  (or the "cairn," as Julia always, rather oddly to my mind, called it.)  Thinking of them now, I wonder whether Haza and Oberon were the actual ancestors of Uncle Fester Addams.  I'd know that pasty skin, those sunken eyes, that crazed leer, and those long snake-like robes anywhere.

The aesthetic atmosphere here always makes me think of the drawings of Edward Gorey.  Particularly in this scene with Barn in that gorgeous 1790s cape.

Angelique has a line in a later episode in which she describes the Leviathans as "creatures of the Underworld."  That element is certainly present in how Haza and Oberon are depicted here.  Their makeup may also hint at an episode in Lovecraft's tale, The Whisperer in Darkness.  I think the main story that DC read to help fill in the elements of the Leviathan narrative must have been the Dunwich Horror.

vile serpentine hissing,

G.

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: Another New Slideshow
« on: November 17, 2009, 10:20:20 PM »
Many thanks, and I apologize if I was nagging.

Hope your day improves (my own has been less than stellar, alas).

Best,

G.

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: Another New Slideshow
« on: November 17, 2009, 06:13:14 PM »
No NoDS photo/caption today, 11/17?  I see only an empty little white box with a red x...

G.

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Here's a fabulous article by David del Valle about Silent Scream and Barbara Steele's late Seventies Hollywood career:

http://www.filmsinreview.com/2009/11/15/camp-david-november-2009-the-silent-scream-of-barbara-steele/

I also spotted a mention in the current entry on Video Watchblog about commentary work for the official release of the complete series of Boris Karloff's Thriller which is scheduled to come out around Sept. of 2010 (next year!).  Most DS fans will love this series, especially fans of the series' b/w period...

G.

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Sad news indeed; the Widows wail again for one of our own.

Besides DS, Ron Sproat also wrote for Strange Paradise, a personal favorite series of mine.

May he rest in peace, and may his spouse find comfort in memories of happier times that were.

G.

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Penny darling, that painting looks like my very own concept of Heaven!

ghoulishly,

GotheEEEEK

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Current Talk '09 II / Re: Veteran cousins? / Wars on DS
« on: November 12, 2009, 04:12:36 PM »
Counter-culture?  Don't forget Buzz, Collinsport's very own answer to the Beats, Hell's Angels and Easy Rider:

"If ya feel it ... SIT IT!"

G.

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Rawk!  what a deliciously ELDRITCH brew you concoct... and the humor is so delightfully reminiscent of our beloved Horror Host/esses of Yore!

Love the Barnabas portrait in the Uncle Chester sequence, too!  You know how to warm the cockles of an old Fan's heart!

The invocation of Lilith actually reminded me of some of our own Angelique's more fervent incantations...

Best of Luck with the new season!  Wow, and there are DVDs too.  Must go see!

cheers, GothEEEEEK

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: Another New Slideshow
« on: November 02, 2009, 11:55:41 PM »
Wow, MB, I know I've never seen either of those two stills!  Truly way out!

This really seems to emphasize the "Witchy" aspect of the thrall Angelique held over Charles...

Love it!  Thanks for sharing!

Best, G.

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: Another New Slideshow
« on: November 02, 2009, 04:17:43 PM »
Further on deleted scenes from NoDS--I got out the DS Movie Book this past weekend and was reading NoDS cinematographer Richard Shore's fascinating description of a Quentin/Angelique lovemaking sequence that was filmed in the swimming pool with lots of "trippy" lighting and effects.  Stills exist, but the sequence itself was deleted from the MGM release print.  This is all detailed in Darren Gross' excellent article about the making of the two DS features.

Anyone out there remember whether the swimming pool makeout sequence is among the footage that was recovered by Darren?

I did happen to find the part in the script for the piano sequence and smirked all over again at the interchange between Laura and Ange.  Ange is so catty when she says "Laura my darling..."

G.

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: Another New Slideshow
« on: October 30, 2009, 07:54:20 PM »
Well, thank goodness for that!

I mean, bits of rotted carrion-eaten flesh littering the front lawn are one thing, but any "scandal" in the local press would be absolutely unacceptable.

Once again the Collinses prove their fealty to the family motto--"hypocrisy above all!"

I'm glad it's getting close to the time when I do my annual drive-through of my favorite highlights of the Leviathan story...

cheers, G.

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: Another New Slideshow
« on: October 30, 2009, 06:34:32 PM »
I just have to comment,  as regards the recent grouping of images up to and including today's (Friday 10/30):  who in the right mind has a lynching/hanging in their front yard and then leaves the corpse just hanging there, to rot and moulder, FOR DAYS?  Apart from anything else, the smell, not to mention the slowly dropping body parts covered in maggots and pecked at by carrion, must have been horrific.

Even by the loopy standards of the Collins family (and remember, "hypocrisy above all!" IS the family motto according to Mrs. Carolyn Stoddard Hawkes), this is just way, WAY out there. 

And they were always depicted as being so averse to publicity... whatever passed for the local paper would have had a field day.  Can't you just see the scare quote headlines: "CORPSE OF COLLINS STRUMPET BIGGEST BOOST TO LOCAL TOURISM IN DECADES, MAYOR SAYS."

Ah, the team of Dan Curtis and Sam Hall....

G.

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Current Talk '09 II / Re: Today's NoDS Pic (127)
« on: October 29, 2009, 02:17:42 PM »
Hi Patti and MSC,

It's not really remotely spoilerish to answer these questions, so, in brief:

Sarah in the NoDS story was Sarah Castle, the daughter of the Collinwood housekeeper in 1810 (a character played by our beloved Clarice Blackburn).  Sarah does not exist as a ghost in the 1971 sequences, but she is linked to the "present day" in a way that's explained at a pivotal moment in the story.

Selby has a dual role in NoDS:  in the present day he is Quentin Collins, an avant-garde Manhattan painter who inherits the Collinwood estate after the death of Mrs. Stoddard.  And in 1810, he is Charles Collins, who was romantically involved with a lovely woman named Angelique (who may or may not have been a Witch).

NoDS is often shown on one of the cable channels at this time of year, so perhaps you can catch it at some point. 

G.

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