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In the 1980s fanzines, and into the ones that were produced in the early 90s, the whole Barnabas/Josette thing was HUGE.  In retrospect I attribute this to how beautifully Frid and KLS played their romantic scenes together in the 1795 storyline, which was frequently played in the syndication packages available in those days--they didn't get the final year of the episodes, and they started with Barn crawling out of his coffin in 1967, so the complete 1795 relay probably ran a number of times in various markets during the decade.  As many here will recall, fan networks ensured that those who did not have access to broadcasts locally got videotapes, typically circulated in slp mode (six hours of episodes per tape--I had some of these that a friend copied for me in the early 1990s).

Since KLS played Josette, if you see Barn/Josette as the central theme around which the entire series turns, KLS becomes THE leading lady of the show.  Angelique was "the bitch" which is a different kind of leading lady in the archetypal world of daytime drama.

It's definitely true that "the idea of Josette" was much more a part of the actual episodes than "the reality of Josette." But it really doesn't require much manipulation on the part of KLS to make fans feel that she was one of the most important people on the show.

G.

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Current Talk '11 II / Re: The Robservations Slideshow
« on: July 24, 2011, 02:51:59 AM »
Wonderful series tonight from the 1995 sequence.  What wonderful work from Nancy and Clarice.  I think of this segment as in some ways the last classic moment from the series before it descended into the incoherent, crazy quagmire of the 1840 story and its 1970 prelude.

Lovely snaps from today's 1968 episodes, too.  I love the ensemble Julia is wearing.  And that scene between Harry and his Mom is a scream.  Just grand stuff.

G.

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Nice to read about the screening in September.  That would be a pleasant event for fans in the area.  If it fits my schedule, I'd go!

The budget was $750,000.  I bet the line item for catering/honeywagon on Depp Shadows is more than that.

G.


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If you want to join, do you get a peremptory email demanding:  WHUUUUUU are yoUUUUU over and over and over again?

Just kidding!  I'm glad Kathy has stepped up to the plate with this.  I'm sure it is a lot of fun!


cheers, G.

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I thought there were two Pom Presses--the one owned by KLS, and the one that does all the high quality calendars, greeting cards, etc.  If they are one and the same I would guess that she did sell it, but maybe with the proviso that they would continue to do her DS books, etc.

G.

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Nice to hear about Selby's participation.  I was wondering whether his schedule would permit him to do it, if they offered it to him.

MB, the way I read the report, "Dan Curtis's son" is somebody other than Jim Pierson.  But I never knew Dan had a son.  I had heard about a daughter or daughters.  But then, I'm hardly an authority on the Curtis bio.

I am glad that Cobert's original theme will "figure" in the film.  I'd rather have more Cobert cues interwoven with the usual Danny Elfman Mickey Mouse stuff.  But they're not making this movie for this likes of yours truly.

Michael, I'm sure you're right about Pom Press already planning the Depp Shadows book.  LOL!  That is exactly why I take whatever KLS says about the movie with hefty helpings of salt.  It's just the latest option in her very own cottage industry.

On with the motley!

G.

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Current Talk '23 I / Re: hoDS/NoDS DVD Release?
« on: July 23, 2011, 04:55:38 PM »
Excellent!  I would love to see the formal announcement from WB, if available.  The last news about this was a casual statement in a chat that "Barnabas will now be blu" which I think was just some tired suit having fun at the expense of fans...

G.

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Current Talk '11 II / Re: Depp/Burton DARK SHADOWS Spoilers
« on: July 23, 2011, 04:26:57 AM »
It took them something like five years to schedule making the one movie, so I don't know about sequels.

Unless Burton is sneaky and does something like the legendary Three Musketeers shoot in the Seventies (where they actually shot TWO movies, the original film and the sequel, but told everyone it was just the one movie).

G.

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I'm wondering that too, MB.  I would have thought that at the very least, a pub photo of Depp in character as Barn would have been released by now.

I guess Burton is really just enjoying building up the suspense...

G.

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Current Talk '23 I / Re: Yet Another New Slideshow
« on: July 22, 2011, 10:09:15 PM »
I love today's photo of Natalie and Vicki.  Natalie's scenes come close to topping Julia's.  And her wardrobe!  I don't know what the design department was thinking, but I keep wondering if someone was winking at us and hinting that Natalie was a "Countess" because she had been running a top-class bordello in Paris and one of the aristocratic customers decided to marry her and make her respectable.  She certainly dresses like a very high-end Madam but more from Balzac's time than the 1780s/90s.  Just my thoughts... Barbara Steele complained in that video interview a couple of years ago that she didn't like doing DS because DC did not allow her to play Julia with nearly the degree of eccentricity she felt the character needed... she clearly WAY made up for lost time with Natalie!

G.

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Isn't there a scene in the 1991 series early on where Liz comes to the Old House and brings some kind of statue, maybe an Art Nouveau dancing lady, to Barn as a present, saying she found it in the attic and thought the statue belonged in the OH?

I always thought that statue was a prop that somebody had turned up from one of the original sets... probably just me hallucinating again.

G.

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Current Talk '11 II / Re: Depp/Burton DARK SHADOWS Spoilers
« on: July 21, 2011, 02:49:31 AM »
Even if the spoilers are real spoilers, very little of what has been written may make it to the final cut of the film.  There could be major changes from the shooting script that was passed around to various people early in the year, and what they're now shooting.  Or Burton could decide to make major changes on the spot and completely re-shoot certain sequences.  All bets are off.

Just speaking personally,
[spoiler] if the thing about Ange and Julia hating one another for their own special reasons is true, I'd LOVE to see a re-creation of the infamous Cassandra slap sequence.  Maybe this time, the impudent Witch's Wiglet will go flying and land somewhere spectacularly impertinent... on top of Roger's head, perhaps?[/spoiler]

I have to confess I don't take anything connected with the new movie very seriously.  The plans for the restoration and release of the two original feature films on DVD--now, THAT I take seriously.  I'm still waiting to hear more about the studio properly greenlighting that project.

G.

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Current Talk '11 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0017
« on: July 20, 2011, 12:52:49 PM »
It's week four, day... two? of the storyline, and Liz is now wearing that strange hairdo I always think of as the "Neo-Geisha" look.
I think it persists for a couple of weeks or so.

I really wish we had been given a scene where the chatty town beautician shows up with her bags of gear to do Liz's hair in the kitchen.  My great aunt who had been a beautician continued for awhile to do some favored customers' hair in her own kitchen.  I'd be dropped off there as a kid to hang out while my Mom or somebody ran errands and I can still remember the smell of the hair products, the nonstop chatter about soap operas ("stories") and scandals, the little radio blasting out the current top 40--lots of Supremes songs, of course... We are talking around 1965-68.

G.

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Current Talk '11 II / Re: Depp/Burton DARK SHADOWS Spoilers
« on: July 19, 2011, 07:05:48 PM »
These  are very cool!  Sounds juicy!

G.

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Testing. 1, 2, 3... / Re: New Default Theme
« on: July 18, 2011, 10:47:34 PM »
Excellent new theme!  The way it's displaying on my computer really heightens the resemblance between Joan Bennett and Alex Moltke.

I do miss the dramatic shot of Barbara Steele wielding that fan...

G.

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