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Current Talk '11 II / Re: Hilarious: A You Tube Tribute to Nick Blair
« on: December 22, 2011, 06:53:31 AM »
This is hysterical!  Funny to see 1967 Julia in there at the end.  Blair and Julia had so many great face-offs in 1968.

G.

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Current Talk '11 II / Re: 1967 photo--Barnabas and Liz
« on: December 22, 2011, 06:48:48 AM »
MB, I collected some of the gum cards in the late Sixties.  I wish I could supply more details but they were with some other DS memorabilia that my mother tossed in the trash shortly after I left home for college in 1976.  I did own a card with the shot of Barnabas and Liz you scanned, but mine did not have fangs and that crazed expression in Barnabas' eyes "enhanced" on the printed card as yours did.  I think my cards had a green background, rather than pink, but after all these years it's hard to be sure.

Anyhow I am afraid I think the way the card looks doctored up as you scanned it is really cheesy.  This kind of thing really conveyed the wrong idea of what the show was all about.

G.

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Wow.  You mean Quentin isn't played by Engelbert Humperdinck in this version? ?  Guess I will have to look elsewhere for my Tasmanian Devil this Yule *wink*.

Apologies to people under 40 who haven't a clue what I'm nattering on about...

G.

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Current Talk '11 II / Re: 1967 photo--Barnabas and Liz
« on: December 21, 2011, 04:43:22 PM »
One of the Frid/Grayson photos was used in the 1969 paperback, Barnabas Collins: a personal picture album, and underneath Jonathan wrote a caption that read something like "I was almost more scared of her than she was of me," which I always read as JF feeling intimidated by Grayson's Oscar nom and "Queen of Off Broadway" chops.

When I saw the photo, I presumed it wasn't used simply because in the storyline, Liz never knew Barnabas' secret.  A fan once wrote an article very thoughtfully and ingeniously elaborating his theory that Liz had learned "the secret" from Jamison and that she did know the truth about Barnabas, but she never let him--or anyone else--know that.  I found it a really fascinating lens through which to view Liz's scenes with Barnabas--particularly one memorable scene from 1967 where they're both standing at the top of Widow's Hill together, discussing life and death.

G.

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Current Talk '11 II / Re: 1967 photo--Barnabas and Liz
« on: December 21, 2011, 07:25:05 AM »
Yay!  Very happy to share these photos.  Excellent scans, MB!

G.

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I'd really like to know more about these "long lost set and cast photos" they keep mentioning.  Unfortunately Hermes Press books are usually shrink-wrapped so I don't get to browse.

G.

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I stopped by my local shop this afternoon to ask them to hold a copy of issue 2 for me.  The guy said that according to the list they have received, they are getting three copies of that issue.

I may or may not be able to swing by and collect it tomorrow or Thurs.  I leave town for a few days on Friday--flying down to Fla. to visit my elderly parents in their retirement community.

If I do get it I will report here.

G.

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What on earth is the hunger games?  Surprising to see it getting more play than the Avengers and the Dark Knight's erector-set.

I am amazed at how much buzz there is around Depp Shadows as well.  For it to be so much in the air, given how heavily hyped other projects on sched for next year are... that's pretty remarkable.

G.

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Current Talk '11 II / Re: Humbert Allen Astredo
« on: December 18, 2011, 02:01:16 AM »
Hi Willie, so far as I am aware, HAA is still with us.  He lost a daughter a couple of years ago.  I think there is a note about the memorial service on his IMDB page.  It was very very sad.

IMO Nicholas was hands down HAA's finest hour on DS, although he's always fascinating to watch.  He and Lara Parker always play off one another well in later storylines.  I've heard from those who were around at the time that HAA who obviously was a superbly trained theatrical actor gave Parker some coaching.

He continued to work in soaps for awhile in the 1970s, and on stage appeared with Elizabeth Taylor in a celebrated revival of The Little Foxes.

There is a fan who does an uncanny impersonation of HAA in his Nicholas Blair persona who attends the Festivals.  Always a highlight (again IMO).

Best, G.

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My theory about the trailer, such as it is:  I do not know whether the studios still have the habit of releasing mega blockbusters on the actual date of Xmas Day, but if they do, and the WB has one of those in the wings, the trailer may be showcased at that premiere.

I could of course be wrong... Burton is clearly treating this project with kid gloves... as would I, if I had been given a blank check to create my very own version of my all time favorite show!

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '11 II / Re: Marilyn Ross novels
« on: December 14, 2011, 05:50:02 PM »
You remember correctly MB--in the books, Barnabas was never chained in his coffin, but traveled the world and even lived in London, for reals, at one point.  The character was really quite different from how he was portrayed in the series, from what I recall.  I think he also had a different servant for awhile other than Willie but I can't recall the particulars now.

It's too bad Dorothy Daniels didn't get the DS contract--a much better writer than Ross, IMO.  Her Strange Paradise novels hold up much better than do the Ross DS tomes.

But others feel differently, of course...  My favorite Ross story is the time he was sitting in the back of his station wagon with the typewriter on his lap in front of the post office frantically banging out the final few pages of one of his books so he could get the MS in the post in time to meet his deadline.

G.

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Current Talk '11 II / Re: 1967 photo--Barnabas and Liz
« on: December 14, 2011, 05:45:04 PM »
Was that Las Vegas?  I did not attend but one of my friends who did might have sent me the program. 

The same program has a really cute photo of Thayer David taken off-set on the hoDS shoot modeling his fangs.  Another one I haven't seen anywhere else.  I'm glad I always check through these things before consigning them to recycling.

cheers, Gothick

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Current Talk '11 II / 1967 photo--Barnabas and Liz
« on: December 14, 2011, 03:21:07 PM »
Dear Fans, while looking through some old magazines, I found my 1998 DS Festival program and noticed a very rare (and so far as I know, never used) publicity photo from 1967 (or perhaps '68?)--it seems to have been done on the same day as a well known series of Jon and Grayson mugging around Barn's coffin.  In this one, Barn is flattening himself dramatically against the cellar wall, the coffin is center of photo and in front of it is Liz (wearing an outfit I don't recall her ever wearing on the series, but that doesn't mean that it may not have appeared and I simply don't remember).  Liz is clasping hands to face and about to let loose with one of her famous strangled screams.

If I can get a scan done of the photo, I will try to share it here.

Best,  G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '11 II / Re: Marilyn Ross novels
« on: December 14, 2011, 05:24:20 AM »
Hey Willie, I think Dan "Marilyn" Ross who wrote the books had the script for episode 1 plus some notes from Art Wallace's original story bible.  The latter was published as a Pomegranate Press book, Shadows on the Wall, and does include the projected outline for the first year or so of DS as Art Wallace originally envisioned it.  I don't have the book but a friend recently got hold of a copy (it is unfortunately out of print).  The first main storyline ended with Roger being even more explicitly villainous than was the case in the aired episodes from 1966.  Laura was set to come back but she wasn't a Phoenix; she was simply a troubled alcoholic.  I think even in the first five books Ross added a number of characters who were not in the original material he was given.  From what I remember of those first five books, apart from the opening couple chapters of book one, there was very little resemblance to what aired on the series.  Even the first novel about Barnabas was  to all intents and purposes a different story and the character very different from how he appeared in the series.

A man named Jeff Thompson wrote an entire MA thesis on the Ross books.  I don't know if it was ever published.  Some here are huge fans of the books.  I read them back in the day.  I find the covers the most interesting aspect of the novels now.

G.

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Interesting points, bat.

[spoiler]The "floating Angelique" motif actually reminded *me* of Joe Certa and Gold Key comics... this floating, cachinnating apparition of Angelique featured in several of those mags.  When I finally got to see the 1991 episodes in which use was made of this motif, it seemed more like an echo of the Gold Key books even though a hovering, gloating phantasm of Angelique was seen a couple of times in 1795.[/spoiler]

It's odd to think of the Gold Key books having such persistent influence... but then again, until we heard from a fan of those comics earlier on here, I was completely unaware that the Gold Key comics had their own very loyal and dedicated fandom.  Perhaps some of those fans wrote letters to Dan Curtis and he turned to some of the comics when preparing the 1991 series...

G.

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