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Wow.  I wonder whether we can expect each issue to be spaced 7 to 8 weeks apart?

Thanks, Nicky!

G.

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Thanks, Midnite!  You're awesome!

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Current Talk '11 II / Kathleen Cody and Virginia Vestoff Photo On Facebook
« on: December 09, 2011, 01:05:02 AM »
There's a great photo of Kathy with Virginia Vestoff on her Facebook photos page. It is marked "public."  I'm not friended to Kathy, and I was able to see it.  It was from a photo shoot that seems to be from late in 1970.

Best,

G.

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Current Talk '23 I / Re: Depp/Burton DARK SHADOWS Is In Production!!
« on: December 08, 2011, 05:14:41 PM »
 Exactly, Cathy.  I thought that tone and temper had a lot to do with what Helena said, and one always has to take into account the classic British tradition of "taking the piss" (making sarcastic fun even of one's nearest and dearest), of which she is clearly a mistress.

If you listen to both interviews, she is really saying that the new movie is extraordinary, even by Tim Burton's standards.  She said it is very subtle.  I remember in an interview before the filming started she commented on how unusual it was going to be because the focus was overwhelmingly going to be on interactions between actors, as opposed to big box FX sequences.

In her own mind she may have been saying that DS was a "so bad it's good" cult classic.  As MB and others have commented, we're used to hearing this from others, including the stars of the original series.

I remember at a Brooklyn festival a few years ago, there was a moment where Selby and Karlen sat while a clip sequence played of their scenes together on the series (mostly Desmond and Quentin from 1840).  I remember Selby saying something like "that dialogue!  Sam Hall, you have a lot to answer for!"  But then subsequently he stated:  "I'm really amazed at how good this is."  It was his first time seeing the show, apparently, in many years.


G.

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Current Talk '23 I / Re: Depp/Burton DARK SHADOWS Is In Production!!
« on: December 08, 2011, 03:59:01 AM »
Wow.  I keep hoping that DS fans won't behave like complete mental cases in public... and I keep getting disappointed.  This pace certain "real fans" forming an HBC "hate group" over on F-book.  Shouldn't something like that be illegal?

It makes me wonder whether some of the people in that group dress up like Elizabeth Collins Stoddard to go to work every day and board the bus announcing to all and sundry "I am the Mistress of Collinwood" (if you've seen the movie Trekkers, you'll know what I am talking about).

Football widows kvetch about football sometimes.  I'm sure HBC has had years of Johnny and Tim holing up in the living room to run DS marathons from time to time.

It means absolutely nothing about the film, the quality of her performance, her commitment to the project (it actually sounded to me as if she loved working on it), or the price of scones in London today.

And I feel like an idiot for needing to write this.  Sheesh.

G.

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Current Talk '11 II / Re: the parallel-time "tease"
« on: December 07, 2011, 10:01:24 PM »
Huge fan of PT 1970 here.  I agree that it was the last of the really good storylines on the series. (1995 feels more like an idyll than a fullblown storyline.)  Nancy, Grayson and Louis in particular all had some really great material... Parker had great clothes and great opportunities to do what she did best. 

[spoiler] I personally failed to "get" the whole Yeagar-goes-after-Maggie Collins thing, and both Quentin and Maggie seemed wearisomely one-note to me ... others disagree which is a fan's prerogative of course ...[/spoiler]

I also LOVE Hannah and Tim Stokes...  great characters!  I wish Hannah had stayed on for awhile after Hoffman returned.

G.

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Testing. 1, 2, 3... / Re: New Collinwood Christmas Theme
« on: December 07, 2011, 05:08:42 PM »
It's very psychedelic!  I feel as if I'm trapped in Liz's Leviathan nightmare, only it's gone all Yuletide on me!  Ben Cross looks like he's about to start singing "You're a mean one, Mr. Grinch."   Love it!

G.

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Current Talk '23 I / Re: Depp/Burton DARK SHADOWS Is In Production!!
« on: December 06, 2011, 09:30:07 PM »
Well, they were there for perhaps two days.

I realize KLS read the shooting script, but as has been stated several times, the completed film could look very different from that beginning point.

And KLS *always* seems to put the most positive spin possible on any situation... *biting tongue on sarcastic comment*

cheers, G.

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Current Talk '23 I / Re: Depp/Burton DARK SHADOWS Is In Production!!
« on: December 05, 2011, 08:38:32 PM »
For the record, I for one am still excited and intrigued to see what HBC does with the role.  I've only seen a few of Helena's films.  She was wonderful in a film of the Henry James novel, Wings of a Dove, and in a Merchant-Ivory film of the E. M. Forster novel Howard's End.  I think she is very good in material with a classical melodramatic edge to it, and to my mind, that makes her admirably suited for this particular project.

But again, time will tell.  I won't have an opinion until I have seen the film.  Just saying that her participation has become one of the exciting aspects to me (I admit that I was less than enthused initially--and I foresaw her casting in this role long before anyone else I know).

G.

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Current Talk '23 I / Re: Depp/Burton DARK SHADOWS Is In Production!!
« on: December 04, 2011, 09:01:15 PM »
There was discussion of this interview over on the main thread about the movie.  I don't think their marriage is in trouble; I think Helena is just in love with the sound of her own voice.

Great shot of her scarily working the Michael Jackson hair.

These interviews with HBC remind me of when Grayson and Sam were touring around doing interviews to promote NoDS, and some unfortunate journalist tried to ask Sam to talk about the story of the movie, and Grayson barked:  "DON'T give away the ending!"

Clearly, HBC is even in more need of a minder...

G.

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Current Talk '11 II / Re: DS Fashion Envy
« on: December 03, 2011, 04:43:38 PM »
I remember that beautiful dress, Arashi.  It was the first time Magda was mentioned.  Her spirit spoke through Carolyn at a seance.

G.

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Current Talk '11 II / Re: Depp/Burton DARK SHADOWS Spoilers
« on: December 03, 2011, 04:38:45 PM »
Re Helena's tendency to run at the mouth... I suppose being married to the director has its perks... though I imagine Tim is FURIOUS with her at revealing that. 

The Great Expectations thing doesn't really count because anyone who has read the novel or seen one of the 99 other film versions (though to me, the 1947 film with the Divine Martita Hunt as Miss Havisham IS definitive) knows what happens to Miss Havisham.

For those who play the spoiler, bear in mind that what she spoke of could be presented in any number of ways in the completed film.  It could play out as part of a dream or nightmare sequence, for example.  As I wrote, where DS is concerned, you never know!

G.

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Lighting candles in remembrance of Keith Prentice and Chris Bernau as well.  Gone but not forgotten.

G.

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Current Talk '11 II / Re: Depp/Burton DARK SHADOWS Spoilers
« on: December 03, 2011, 04:33:30 AM »
michael c, Helena reveals--

[spoiler]that Barnabas kills Julia during the action of the movie, by draining her of her blood.  Of course, given that it's DS, that doesn't necessarily mean that Julia is dead and gone for good--nor that the only way she could return would be as a vampire![/spoiler]

Sounds as if it's going to be quite a ride.  I did not know that yet ANOTHER remake of Great Expectations has just been done, and Helena plays Miss Havisham--apparently she just finished shooting that.

G.

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Current Talk '11 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0106
« on: November 29, 2011, 10:31:51 PM »
The idea of having the story play out in real time was Art Wallace's concept.  After he stopped actually churning out the scripts, the other writers treated time in a more fast and loose way, but also a way that seemed more natural to the viewer for whom weeks and months HAD passed since the start of it all.

My favorite time-trippy moment is that when Vicki is thrown back into 1795, it is the Fall of 1967.  When she returns, "only a moment has passed" and yet the calendar reads April of 1968.  Of course, it would have seemed very strange to viewers at the time if they had pretended that it was still 1967.

At some point in the 1795 storyline, she's in the gaol with Peter and saying dialogue about getting back to 1968.  Years later the same thing happened with Barnabas and Julia discussing a return to 1971 at the end of the 1840 storyline.  When they had left Collinwood, it had been Sept.-Oct. 1970.

G.

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