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Current Talk '21 I / Re: Yet Another New Slideshow
« on: June 27, 2012, 01:11:05 PM »
Isn't today's capture a scene that was stolen, almost line for line, in the Depp Shadows?  I saw a clip that I"m sure had this line in it, and the set-up was nearly identical although of course, the Tim Burton version looked about 500 times better.

G.

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I am revisiting the mid November conclusion of the "1968" storyline and just watched episode 624 (which aired on Nov. 14, 1968).  I was surprised to find what must surely have been the very last reference to the Foundling Home whence Victoria Winters began her momentous journey.  Vicki has received [spoiler]two wedding gifts, and one of them proves to be a necklace that had been a family heirloom from a favorite nurse at the Home (her name sounds like Norris or Norridge).  Vicki reflects that she always felt so alone when she was at the Home, when in fact there were people all around her who cared about her.  It's a very poignant moment, and Liz is present.[/spoiler]

One or two episodes later, there's an episode where Vicki is studying the old Collins Family History and she tells Liz:  "I want to understand."  "You'll NEVAH understand," declares the Mistress of Collinwood.  Another poignant moment in the saga of Victoria Winters....

I'm really sorry that the writers did not allow [spoiler]Vicki and Jeff to go off to a happy ending in time for Moltke to finish out the storyline. Moltke's departure is so abrupt, I always think that she must have had a bad episode of morning sickness and simply been unable to come to work.  Curtis took her departure as a fait accompli.[/spoiler]

I also always think of Lara Parker at a 1990s Festival informing fans who asked why Moltke left:  "She didn't want to be on the show!  She REFUSED to wear make-up!"

Memories light the corner of my mind....

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '12 I / Re: Saturday Fest is sold out
« on: June 26, 2012, 03:27:48 AM »
Maybe they're planning to hold a seance?

*rolls eyes*

G.

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A friend of mine who has more patience for current pop culture trends than do I saw the movie on Friday.  She praised the performance of the actor who played Lincoln (Ben Walker, I think, was his name? she said he was Meryl Streep's son-in-law) but particularly mentioned the ever-luscious Rufus Sewell, who plays the head vampire.  On a whim, she decided to buy the novel on her way to see the movie.  She started reading it on her way, I think.  Anyhow she thinks that the movie is a bit of fun but the novel is much, much better.  Just letting folks know one fan's opinion.  She is also a diehard DS fan (she gave the Depp movie a lukewarm review--for anyone who's counting heads, I still haven't seen the Deep creature).

G.

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Current Talk '12 I / Re: Joan Bennett: "Hackneyed Dialogue" on DS
« on: June 24, 2012, 04:09:29 AM »
MB, I think I know the wig(let) article--NY Times and was illustrated with a great photo that had Bennett and Edmonds on the basement set.

This seems to be a different one.  I'll be interested to hear whether you recall having seen it or not before.  I hadn't.

G.

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Current Talk '12 I / Joan Bennett: "Hackneyed Dialogue" on DS
« on: June 23, 2012, 02:20:54 PM »
Fans,

looking through the Collinsport Historical Society site, I found this clipping from what is clearly a late Summer or Early Fall 1966 newspaper article interviewing Joan Bennett about her work on DS.  If this clipping was passed around by fans in the early years, it may account for why the story spread for awhile that Joan "hated" being on DS:

http://www.collinsporthistoricalsociety.com/2012/01/joan-bennett-talks-dark-shadows.html

Note that in the interview, she refers to already having a contract to do a play in February 1967--Liz's first "breakdown" as a result of a certain plot incident coincided with this.

G.

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Some wonderful stuff has been posted today, including ultra rare photos of Grayson doing a Cocteau play in the early Sixties--photos so incredibly rare, I had despaired of their existence!  (I even visited the Theatre Archive of the Philadelphia City Library but no luck.)  I suspect that the site's web master was able to retrieve the scans from the microfilm through Google.  A friend of mine has retrieved some really rare Strange Paradise-related material from newspaper clippings availabe through that.

If you like Grayson, you definitely want to check out the front page of the Collinsport Historical Society today!  I imagine the Grayson material will continue to be available for awhile.  I should think at least through this coming week.

Best, G.

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Yay!  congrats, cousin Taeylor!

G.

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How utterly darling!  Happy Twenty-five!  Perhaps somebody baked you a silvery cake in honor of the year.

Best,

G.

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Calling all devotees of the Divine One:

Check out this exciting link!

http://www.collinsporthistoricalsociety.com/2012/06/grayson-hall-blog-thon-set-for-june-22.html

Grayson's son, author Matt Hall, as well as the author of the definitive Grayson Hall biography, R. J. Jamison, are set to participate, along with a bevy of other fan sites, including a podcast.

Best,

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '12 I / Re: Elizabeth Eis 1943-2012
« on: June 20, 2012, 03:41:57 AM »
Sad news indeed. That Elizabeth developed a following among fans in recent years is, as far as I'm concerned, entirely due to herself and the dignity and humanity she projected in roles that weren't all that well scripted or conceived.  I also missed her one Festival appearance.  She will be missed.

G.

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Current Talk '12 I / Re: 1840 ben stokes question
« on: June 18, 2012, 10:55:11 PM »
I realize the repetition is wearisome, but I feel called upon to point out again that while 1968 boasts the dreary Adam storyline, it also features some of the series' best moments, such as the plotline MB mentioned, but also pretty much ALL of the Nicholas Blair scenes (I really think 1968 Blair was head and shoulders above all of HAA's divine characterizations), Cassandra Collins which is one of my personal favorite characters in the series, some great Prof. Stokes stuff (Stokes was one of the characters who first got me watching the show), and the original Chris Jennings werewolf storyline.  Some of Eve's scenes were really quite juicy as well, I thought--Marie played her with such understated venom--and then there was Danielle Roget, "the most evil woman of the 18th century."

The parts of it that frustrate me the most are the endless winding-down of Vicki's trial storyline in the final part of 1795, and every scene involving Peter/Jeff; nearly all of Adam's scenes, although before Adam learned to talk Robert Rodan brought great heart to the role; and the interminable storyline involving Liz's curse to live in fear of death and being buried alive, a terrible betrayal of what was once a great character.  The reduction of Vicki to a simpering idiot who just "doesn't understand" is a very, very disappointing end to another character who was the fascinating centerpoint of the entire story, originally.  And finally, the unimaginative, dull scenario by which Joe Haskell was written out of the show, although Joe's final episode boasts one of the series' most compellingly bizarre and creepy dream sequences.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '12 I / Creepy-bopper
« on: June 13, 2012, 03:06:48 AM »
This was somebody's film school project.  It's a short film that runs about 8 minutes attempting to profile a kid in 1969 who is obsessed with DS.  I realized watching it just how obsessed a fan I am since some of the memorabilia shown was not available until the end of 1969 or later... and that jumped right out at me as being out of period.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lSHzElZ5rA&feature=related

I missed the NY Times calling us "Creepy-boppers."  And honestly, I think you'd have to be really stoned to keep those damned plastic fangs in your mouth for more than a couple of minutes. Those things tasted awful.

cheers, G.

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Current Talk '21 I / Re: Depp/Burton DARK SHADOWS Is In Release!!
« on: June 13, 2012, 12:22:44 AM »
Amen to that, Cousin Barnabas.  ALL of it.

G.

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Thanks for that excerpt, MB. I have to say that that certainly reads as if it would have played much, much better than what I recall of the train-wreck that was the ending I remember seeing,  Like michael, the memories are vague, but I do recall my reaction to the ending as being:  "What th' HELL?"

I still find the scripted ending to be over the top, but it just could have worked with the right handling.

I thought Brown had potential as Liz.  They really, really needed to do a re-take of the scene where she welcomes Vicki to Collinwood, however.  Everything about the scene as it exists is off-key.

Again, Hu didn't make enough of an impression for me to know how she would have played Julia.  To me, Julia by definition has to have an edge.  I've not seen Kelly Hu's other work to know if she can convey that kind of edge.

In the clips I have seen from the Burton/Depp film, HBC did have an edge, but as I wrote to another fan who solicited my opinion, it was more Shelley Winters than Grayson Hall.

salutations, G.

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