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A short note to say I finished reading this amazing, and to my mind historic, round table discussion on DS.  Although there are a couple of brief references to house of DS, the 1991 remake, and the Burton/Depp film, these are in passing; the round table is focused upon the phenomenon of the original 1966-71 television series.  Perhaps the biggest surprise to me (and what a delightful one it was) was how much attention Joel Crothers got in the discussion.  The next biggest surprise was how *little* attention Angelique, and Lara Parker's performance as Our Favorite Witch, received.  Thayer David was not mentioned at all, except for in a special sidebar devoted to hoDS that is only available on the VW website (see link in hoDS/NoDS DVD release thread on the other board).  My nomination for the nuttiest moment, given these omissions, was when somebody spent a paragraph discussing Craig Slocum's work on the series.  It was great to see John Karlen receive very high marks from a number of critics for his work.  I thought Nancy Barrett's work should have been given more attention given just how much range she showed on the series.  I think only one of the participating critics had actually seen ALL the episodes.

I guess the last thing I would have to say is that I would have deleted all of Kim Newman's comments in favor of having the section on hoDS included in the print version of the article.  I ordinarily enjoy Newman's work, but he had only seen 2 or 3 weeks of the series and most of what he did was to express bafflement as to why anyone ever cared.

Despite my caveats, the issue is highly recommended and goes on my permanent DS shelf.

G.

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Current Talk '22 I / Re: hoDS/NoDS DVD Release?
« on: August 08, 2012, 03:38:12 PM »
There's a fascinating critical discussion of house of DS, mainly focusing on the movie's initial impact on its audience, at this site:

http://videowatchdog.com/web/darkshadows/

The material originated as part of the Video Watchdog round table discussion on the DS original series, but there wasn't room to include it in the print version.

Our own Darren is one of the critics involved!

Best, G.

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I was thrilled, absolutely thrilled, to find a copy of this mag at the Harvard Coop a little earlier today on my lunch break.  The feature looks fabulous, and the issue includes some charming drawings by an artist named Belle Dee that have very much a Rankin-Bass flavor to them.  The 3 color cartoons depict Quentin and Angelique in 1897; Julia (really excellent work); and Barnabas, on the back cover of the mag.

My one complaint is there is NO shot of Thayer David anywhere in the article.  There are head shots of a number of the lead players:  Joan, Louis, Frid, Grayson, Nancy, and Joel Crothers are the ones I recall, along with production shots, candid shots outside the studio, etc.  There's an interesting photo of Frid with DC I don't recall having seen before.  It has a real Mad Men character to it--they're both smoking and both in dark suits.

Talking of Mad Men, somebody in the round table, possibly Darren, speculates that Louis' portrayal of Roger was the inspiration for another character named Roger on Mad Men.  I've seen the first season and I agree that the Mad Men Roger definitely seems to owe something to the DS Roger, except the Mad Men Roger isn't so colorfully arch and acid-tongued.

I will write more when I have had the chance to finish reading the entire round table.  Excellent, exciting work! And I am going to email Tim Lucas and request him to run a photo of Thayer David in the next issue of VW with a caption about how essential Thayer's contribution to DS was in making it as great as it was.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '12 II / Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
« on: August 06, 2012, 12:17:07 AM »
Thanks, Darren, for not giving up.

I think at this stage in the scheme of things, you're a better man than I am with all of this... if there were a possibility of an outfit like Criterion having a swing with it, that would be different, but from what I understand the rights to the material remains under the evil thrall of the Deatheaters at WB Home Video.  And do they care?  NO.

hugs, Steve

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Calendar Events / Announcements '12 II / Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
« on: August 05, 2012, 07:23:08 PM »
I personally am much, MUCH more upset over WB's reneging of their promise to restore the NoDS film for the disc release than I am over anything to do with the Burton/Depp ... project. I am nearly as upset over various aspects of the handling of the October release of the films but won't go into that now.

I haven't spewed the vitriol here out of respect for the general tone of civility that MB and Midnite prefer to maintain here, but believe me, my opinions on the matter would sound right at home amongst the Collinsport longshoremen after a long day spent out in the boats.

cheers, G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '12 II / Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
« on: August 05, 2012, 06:21:32 PM »
I think somewhere up there Philippe mentioned that Lara alluded to "our little show" and speculated that it would still be remembered--and watched--long after the Burton/Depp behemoth had been relegated to a footnote.

I'm imagining her saying this with one of her catlike smiles...

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '12 II / Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
« on: August 05, 2012, 04:56:50 PM »
I agree michael.  It looks from the photos that have been shared as if in at least one major space, the decor of the room was provided by these giant standee posters from the Burton/Depp project.  Amanda's notes about Sharon's remarks are the first I've heard of the movie being explicitly mentioned.

It all seems quite strange...

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '12 II / Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
« on: August 04, 2012, 07:17:12 PM »
Thanks, Amanda, for that report--beautifully written as always, and I always find the stories you choose to share of particular interest.

I never knew that Marie had been in the original production of Gypsy.  I've long regretted that Ethel didn't get to do the film.  Intriguing to learn that Marie's interest in fine art goes back that far.

I guess I'm grateful, vicariously, to Sharon for raising the question about how the Burton/Depp movie polarized the fandom.  I have to say that I feel to a growing degree in a separate camp now from mainstream fandom since to date I have not really cared for any of the attempts to do remakes of DS.  (I make an exception from the original 1970-71 feature films; for one thing, they were done with the same cast, writers, and production unit by and large as the original series.)  I find the topic of the Burton/Depp film a profound bore.  And no, I haven't seen it yet.  I think about seeing it and then think of 99 other things on my list of things to do...

It would be interesting to see the Spencer productions fanvid in its entirety.  I have to confess that apart from Daryl's deliciously over-the-top performance as Julia, the trailer just seemed to lack that "spark" I recall from "Save our cemeteries."  I'd still like to see the entire video.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '12 II / Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
« on: August 03, 2012, 01:23:35 PM »
Ah, "the witching influence of the air"!  Beautiful.

G.

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If Quentin had come on the scene as planned in the Fall 1991 season, he might have become Barn's competition for Vicki, at least for a time.  He was to be played by a very attractive Scottish actor whose name I am forgetting... Adrian Paul?  That man could set one of his own kilts on fire...

I think the thing with the remakes is that all of them focus on the original Barnabas storyline; Burke was part of it in 1967, but not a part that has attracted the attention of people who seek to extend the "franchise".  It's a little surprising that Burton/Depp didn't work in a reference to Burke since they apparently wove in a number of other references only diehard fans would get. 

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '12 II / Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
« on: July 31, 2012, 03:14:03 PM »
What a sweet photo!

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '12 II / Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
« on: July 30, 2012, 02:55:12 PM »
Thanks for that link, Jimbo.  michael, you're right:  the lady with the blonde bob is identified on Jimbo's link as Sharon.

I was wondering for a bit if she might have been Kathy Cody, but evidently not.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '12 II / Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
« on: July 30, 2012, 04:45:11 AM »
That's beautiful Teresa! Who is the lady next to Marie--not Jerry, on the other side of Marie?

Glad to hear you had such a lovely time.  I regret not having been there.  It wasn't good timing for me, amongst other factors.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '12 II / Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
« on: July 30, 2012, 02:44:20 AM »
Thanks again for the latest reflective notes on this year's Festival experience.  700 sounds pretty low as an attendance figure to me.  Don't the NY area Festivals typically take in between 2000 and 2500 attendees?

I think a cruise would have potentially a very different clientele from the typical fan who attends the Festivals.  It will be interesting to see whether they pursue that idea.

The short play with Nancy and Jerry sounds beautiful.  I would love to hear Carolyn and Tony exchanging their thoughts after all those years.  I'm sure the two actors portrayed it with sensitivity and depth.

Thanks again,

Steve

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Calendar Events / Announcements '12 II / Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
« on: July 29, 2012, 06:50:39 PM »
Thanks, Ms C.  Those are great photos.  I spotted Jerry Lacy but he wasn't identified--wonder why not.  And I spotted some other familiar faces in the snaps.  Looks as if that tent had a lot of empty seats even though the event was officially sold out.

It was odd to see the giant poster/standee set up for the Burton/Depp film.  I wonder if that was the only element from what one would have thought would have been this year's hot theme on evidence at the event.

And thanks again to Philippe for his very personal, beautifully written report.  Once upon a time, we had several fans on here reporting from the Festival floor.  Now you alone remain to tell the story (I think that's a quote, but can't recall from where).

Thanks, Steve

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