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Current Talk '12 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0318
« on: October 18, 2012, 04:36:39 AM »
Hey dom, I'm pretty sure the DVD has the episode in color, unless I'm hallucinating (I guess it's been a few weeks, and they've been rough weeks--I lost my beloved kitty last Thurs.).  It might have been a case where the color print was recovered after the work on the VHS release.  I remember Grayson looked really fabulous in it.

That's a cool idea that it was Josette's ghost intervening, but the tiresome flute cue leaves little doubt that the writers, at least, intended us to agree with Barn that it was Sarah.

Glad my little witticisms help keep you smiling, Onyx.

G.

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: I chortled in my half-sleep last night.
« on: October 17, 2012, 08:26:35 PM »
Wow. that was long ago and far away.  but I still remember what a hoot Al Lewis was in that one.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '12 II / Re: Happy Birthday, John_in_NC
« on: October 17, 2012, 05:31:43 PM »
Happy Birthday!

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '12 II / Re: Happy Birthday to retzev!
« on: October 15, 2012, 06:12:28 PM »
Happy Birthday Retzev!  Wishing you much joy of your solar return!

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '12 II / Dreams of Darkness
« on: October 15, 2012, 01:21:21 PM »
Fans,

This link to the trailer for a new 35 mm feature film by an independent filmmaker was posted on the "Monster Kids" board and I found the work evocative both of DS and Suspiria in some ways.  Beautiful photograph and locations.  Click on the link and when the page loads, the trailer begins playing automatically.

http://www.dreamsofdarknessmovie.com/

There's even a scene in the trailer that reminds me of a similar scene with Roxanne involving psychometry in PT 1970...

G.

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: Angelique and Laura
« on: October 15, 2012, 05:21:35 AM »
I think of Violet Welles as THE unsung heroine of DS.  There's only that one interview with her (so far as I know) which Dale Clark published in his zine, and really ought to be republished in one of the PomPress books (except we know that KLS never, ever pays a red cent to anyone for anything--oops, did I say that with my outloud voice?)  Apparently Welles came back to write practically the entire final month of the series, so anything that's decent in '41 PT probably comes from her violet quill.

I agree that I, too, never tire of watching Laura and Ange duke it out.  I even love watching Ange order Magda to bring her a mirror!  She's so imperious in that scene.  What fun.

xo G.

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And for those who don't know, the store is located in Beautiful Downtown Burbank, CA (I thought at first it might have been a convention, although I think Dark Delicacies has been referenced here before).

G.

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Current Talk '12 II / Angelique and Laura
« on: October 15, 2012, 03:59:45 AM »
For some reason today, I was recalling Laura and Angelique's big confrontation scene in 1897.  When Laura says to Our Favorite Witch:  "What does it feel like to succeed as a ... whatever you are... but to be a failure AS A WOMAN?"  I think it is one of the bitchiest moments in all DS history.

One of the tragedies that's bugging the hell out of me right now is that NoDS is being released in its unrestored form.  I was really looking forward to seeing the restored piano scene with its exchange between Laura and Angelique, where the spiteful witch informs her rival:  "Oh, he knows what's happening, Laura my darling, and for *the first time in his life* he's really enjoying it!"

In some weird alternate version of the DS multiverse, this second scene (which takes place in the AU world of the movies) could be see as Angelique's payback for what Laura taunted her with in 1897.

G.

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0318
« on: October 12, 2012, 02:41:49 AM »
Jon and Grayson were so hot together in this episode (hot meaning completely on target together dramatically in this case).  Excellent work from both of them.

I still think it's beyond bizarre that "little Sarah" left David inside that tomb for days before finally remembering to go let him out.  The writers leave it to us, the viewers, to try and explain this for ourselves. 

The best answer seems to be that she's not altogether aware of how time passes, or affects humans, on our plane.  Her ability to materialize may also be of limited duration... some sort of astral law of the conservation of ectoplasm.

In the absence of any attempt in the writing to fill in these holes, we are left to speculate.  Of course, some may think she's really a ditzy little harpy who derives some for of amusement from watching David squirm and cry for days on end...

G.

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0317
« on: October 10, 2012, 10:17:48 PM »
Funny, Dark Lady, I watched this episode a few weeks ago and I had the same thought--where's the light coming from in the Secret Room?

Even if there was a grille masked as some sort of ornamental feature of the rear exterior of the mausoleum (which is a likely explanation of the presence of light and air in the Secret Room), the kind of lighting seen on camera suggests an overhead source.  Fluorescent light from beyond the grave?

G.

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0315
« on: October 10, 2012, 02:17:45 AM »
Take good care, Lydia.  I don't read these at all consistently but whenever I do, I always enjoy your astute and wittily phrased insights.

Best, Gothick

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: cursed...or charmed???
« on: October 09, 2012, 02:47:46 AM »
Not much to say beyond the fact that I have had similar thoughts to those you have voiced.

Yet to see Depp Shadows so I won't comment.  I have seen the 1991 series and the 04 pilot and neither was an artistic success, though for what it is worth, I do think the 1991 redaction had some wonderful moments, thanks in large part to Barbara Steele, Julianna McCarthy, and occasionally Ben Cross (miscast and poorly directed in his role, just my opinion).  Some of the others had good moments but these three performances were the main standouts in what rapidly slithered into an unwieldy mess.  Again, network interference in the plotlines and the production seems in part to blame.  I haven't followed the respective histories all that carefully but I have the impression that a "too many cooks" situation may also be to blame for the difficulties of the 04 WB thing and the Burton/Depp fandango.

I personally don't grok the concept of DS as a "franchise."  To me, the original series, a weird, underbudgeted, oddball little adventure, more or less ignored or misunderstood by network suits and much of the ABC publicity arm, busting out to become this huge cultural phenomenon that became part of the late Sixties countercultural scene, is way, way ahead of--and more interesting than--any of the attempts at a reboot.  Maybe part of the reason for that is the extraordinary calibre of the original cast, and the fact that some of the writing was so literate, with that Victorian gothic texture that made it all so memorable.

Just my thoughts.  I do think that fans of the various versions could give more accurate accountings since they are more familiar with the quirks of the situations involved in the production of each successive attempt at a revival.

G.

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: New DS Movie
« on: October 04, 2012, 05:24:25 AM »
Not really.  Maybe on Netflix... sometime next year?

G.

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: the witchcraft nonsense in 1840
« on: October 03, 2012, 04:29:28 PM »
And for later 1840... the Barnabas/Julia scenes are among the elements that stand out, for sure,  I particularly like the scenes [spoiler]in the episode when Angelique has lifted the curse from Barnabas; there are a couple of wonderful scenes where Julia is at her most vulnerable and later, with Gerard, her most world-weary and reflective.  Great stuff.[/spoiler]

You'll notice that after Barn has declared his "one true love" for our Favorite Witch, it's still Julia who takes care of Barn and cleans up the mess.

"Faithful old Aunt Julia..."  glad the show never went on long enough for us to hear THAT line.

G.

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: the witchcraft nonsense in 1840
« on: October 03, 2012, 04:24:39 PM »
I actually enjoy watching the zombies demolish Collinwood.  I don't know why; there's just something about that sequence that rings my chimes (as we used to say in the early Bronze Age when the show originally aired).  It was an impossible scene to stage, particularly given that the sets slated to be "destroyed" were going to be needed, probably for the very next day's taping, so I thought what the productiion crew came up with was actually rather imaginative.

As a bonus, you get the extended mix "zombie freakout bongo jive," or whatever the cue is called that plays during the destruction scene.

I thought it was a cheat that Liz's death took place off camera (and pretty much off script--I think there's half a line that mentions attending the funerals of Liz and the children).  There should have been at least a scene of Liz confronting the zombies, perhaps defying them, and then the fadeout as the walking dead closed in on the mistress of Collinwood...  That certainly would have made for a memorable scene.

G.

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