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2011
Current Talk '13 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0515
« on: August 08, 2013, 10:17:14 PM »
Wow, I thought I knew a lot about DS, but you guys have me beat!

I never even heard of Natalie Norwich/k.  I do vaguely recall having heard of Florence Stanley...

G.

2012
Current Talk '13 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0515
« on: August 08, 2013, 03:07:37 AM »
I've read in at least one source that the sobbing of Josette's ghost was done by Lela Swift (the director).  Always wondered whether that was true.

G.

2013
Current Talk '13 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0514
« on: August 08, 2013, 03:03:02 AM »
dom, I have the same "go to" regarding Dan Curtis that you do when it comes to some of the more senselessly way-out plot swings.

Being a DS writer back at this time was a hard row to hoe.  Violet Welles seems to have been the most adroit when it came to rolling with the punches.  She worked as a ghost writer for Gordon so it's hard to know when she started helping with the scripts.  Thayer did re-write some of the dialogue and Joel Crothers flat out wrote whole scripts--we have testimony about this from back in the day.

G.

2014
Current Talk '13 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0513
« on: August 08, 2013, 02:57:43 AM »
I just love this episode.

I love Parker's expression as Cassandra when she catches sight of Stokes in the Evans cottage. The shocked trembling of her lower lip is really well done.  Maybe she'd been studying Johnny Karlen.

Thayer had so many great lines in this one.  Stokes is my favorite character of his which is sheer sentimentality because I also adore him as Count Petofi and PT 1970 Tim Stokes.  I love all his work in the series but these three are my favorite characterizations because all three are just so... out there.

G.

2015
Current Talk '13 II / Re: Today's Montage 1972
« on: August 07, 2013, 02:08:23 AM »
Thanks, Nicky!  I've wondered if the lore that the vampire can appear at Noon may have actually been a projection of what in some traditions is called the Fetch, an anergetic component of the human soul that supernatural beings in old European folklore are particularly adept at deploying to do their work.  The Fetch often takes the form of an animal.  It's unclear to me whether Dracula is supposed to be able to pop out of his coffin for the hour around the time of Noon and then return there, or manifest himself as an astral appearance (similar, perhaps, to how Julia "appeared" in 1897).

G.

2016
Current Talk '13 II / Re: Today's Montage 1972
« on: August 06, 2013, 05:14:01 AM »
I have this vague but persistent memory of van Helsing saying that a vampire could appear in the sun at noontime.  It is confusing because earlier on, Harker sees Dracula "sleeping" in his coffin in the crypt of the Castle.  There is a clear urgency for the vampire to seek the refuge of his coffin (AND his original burial soil) before daybreak.

There was an episode in the 1897 storyline in DS where Barn went to his coffin at dawn (in the basement of the Old House) and something happened and then he was running around for quite sometime after the sun had presumably risen though we never saw him confronting daylight.  I think this was simply the result of sloppy scripting and production but it always bemuses me when it comes up.

G.

2017
Current Talk '13 II / Re: Movie
« on: August 02, 2013, 02:11:17 AM »
I voted for NoDS. Even in its non-restored form I like it quite a bit better than hoDS (which I view as something of a guilty pleasure).

I think what makes it so exceptional is that it tells its own story.  The Lyndhurst setting, the cast we know and love so much, and the Bob Cobert score are elements that "make it DS" for me.

G.

2018
Calendar Events / Announcements '13 II / Matthew Hall video interview
« on: July 30, 2013, 09:10:09 PM »
I would guess this video was done sometime in the 1990s.  Matthew Hall discusses his personal connection to DS and his experience working on the 1990/91 series.  This is one of the few occurrences of which I am aware in which someone close to the show has actually described Dan Curtis as "the head writer" of the series.  I still think DS (the original series) was so good *in spite of* Dan's input... people who are really close to a project often take a different view from those who are spectators--or have a more objective vantage point:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WKA3CztzUY

G.

2019
Current Talk '13 II / Re: Cross-Over Question
« on: July 30, 2013, 03:47:11 PM »
Thanks, Gerard.  I'll have to look for that Art Carney episode you mention.  It sounds like a gem.

Best,

G.

2020
Current Talk '24 I / Re: And Yet Another New Slideshow
« on: July 30, 2013, 05:10:12 AM »
and it just occurred to me that perhaps Juliana was trying to acquire some BarnaDepp DNA via the most natural means available to her... lol.

G.

2021
Current Talk '24 I / Re: And Yet Another New Slideshow
« on: July 30, 2013, 05:06:15 AM »
Depp's Eddie Munster makeup and Trask wannabe line delivery ruins every scene he's in for me in this movie.  Sorry.

G.

2022
Current Talk '13 II / Re: Cross-Over Question
« on: July 30, 2013, 05:03:32 AM »
Hi Patti, the DS sets were designed and built by Sy Tomashoff for DS in the Spring of 1966 (presumably May-June).  Nobody has bothered to quote a year for this Twlight Zone episode but from what Midnite wrote it sounds as if it was done in the 1950s.

I often see old house sets on ALFRED HITCHCOCK and BORIS KARLOFF'S THRILLER that seem reminiscent of the look Sy drew upon for Collinwood, but I think it's just a general concept of what a creepy old house would look like as established in the horror and suspense genres of the mid 20th century.

According to MB, set elements from DS were re-used on other ABC soaps after DS ended, notably ONE LIFE TO LIVE.

G.

2023
I have to confess, apart from Cornelia Otis Skinner (playing a character very reminiscent of the original concept for Julia Hoffman) and the music which is lovely, I found this film distinctly lame upon my last viewing.  The ending in particular felt very anticlimactic to say the least.

If you've never seen it, I strongly advise trying to get it through Netflix or your local library.  Watch before you buy. 

I really need to get the new DVD of the cheapo 1957 Roger Corman shocker THE UNDEAD, definitely an inspiration for the whole Vicki-flashback-to-1795 thing.

cheers, H.

2024
Current Talk '13 II / Re: 1990 Ep 7 Montage Question
« on: July 24, 2013, 02:39:41 AM »
Hi Patti, I think the clothing for the 1990 DS actually got closer to what was worn in 1790 New England.  I seem to recall having read that the costumes for the 18th century sequences in the original Sixties shows came from work that had commissioned for a production set in the mid 18th century.  I'm not an authority and it would be interesting to know for sure.

I always think the Countess's clothing in the 1967-68 shows was way out of date, more 1760s than 1790s, although I love how Grayson looks in the clothing.

The main 18th century costume that just does not work for me is what they gave Barnabas to wear.  I'm sure it was researched and was accurate but it just looks awful on camera, particularly in combination with the wig and the makeup.

Of course tastes differ--just giving my opinion.


2025
Current Talk '24 I / Re: And Yet Another New Slideshow
« on: July 24, 2013, 01:51:24 AM »
I would love to have more of Bette in "real life"--or Joan Bennett, or Grayson Hall.  "But the acting is so terrible!" OK, watch something else, mate.  It's a free country (well, sort of).

Thanks, dom,  Great quote!

G.

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