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1966
Calendar Events / Announcements '13 II / Re: Happy Birthday Midnite!!!!
« on: August 10, 2013, 04:30:13 PM »
Happy Birthday darling!  Wishing you many splendid happy returns!

xo Gothick

1967
Calendar Events / Announcements '13 II / Re: Karen Black
« on: August 09, 2013, 03:10:40 AM »
I heard this sad news a few hours ago on the international Social Networking Site.  I was shocked as I considered Ms. Black "too young to die."  She was about a year and a half younger than my own mother (and Lara Parker) as it happens.

I was thinking about Ms. Black a few weeks ago when a fan started a thread here about what role Ms. Black would have played had she been cast in the original series of Dark Shadows.  I had to smile because I recalled that many years ago now, when a gala was held at the Museum of Television and Radio in Dan Curtis's honor, many DS luminaries showed up, and Ms. Black made a late entrance to the room.  At the time it was reported that she was overheard to look around her, narrow her eyes, and demand of a flunky:  "Wait a minute, this isn't a Dark Shadows thing, is it?"  She was assured that it was indeed an evening in honor of DC and she proceded to her place onstage.

I also think of a performance art band, maybe based in NYC, about 23 years ago called "The Voluptuous Horror of Karen Black"--it was written up in Michael Musto's column and I believe Ms. Black may have eventually attended, or even participated in, a performance.

May she know true peace.  We'll miss her.

G.

1968
Current Talk '13 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0515
« on: August 09, 2013, 03:03:55 AM »
DarkLady, I'm sure that extras with less than 2 lines got paid really cheaply.  I'm amazed that we are able to recover the information about such personnel this far away from the events, but Jim Pierson may have been able to find the information in DCP's production files from the series (wonder what ever happened to those--I know some odds and ends were sold at a Festival auction several years ago).

I've always wondered just how often KLS played the ghost of Josette.  In one of the Laura episodes from early 1967 where the ghost visits Laura in the cottage while David is sleeping, it really doesn't look like KLS.  That is one of the clearest looks we get at the ghost.

G.

1969
Current Talk '13 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0515
« on: August 08, 2013, 10:17:14 PM »
Wow, I thought I knew a lot about DS, but you guys have me beat!

I never even heard of Natalie Norwich/k.  I do vaguely recall having heard of Florence Stanley...

G.

1970
Current Talk '13 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0515
« on: August 08, 2013, 03:07:37 AM »
I've read in at least one source that the sobbing of Josette's ghost was done by Lela Swift (the director).  Always wondered whether that was true.

G.

1971
Current Talk '13 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0514
« on: August 08, 2013, 03:03:02 AM »
dom, I have the same "go to" regarding Dan Curtis that you do when it comes to some of the more senselessly way-out plot swings.

Being a DS writer back at this time was a hard row to hoe.  Violet Welles seems to have been the most adroit when it came to rolling with the punches.  She worked as a ghost writer for Gordon so it's hard to know when she started helping with the scripts.  Thayer did re-write some of the dialogue and Joel Crothers flat out wrote whole scripts--we have testimony about this from back in the day.

G.

1972
Current Talk '13 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0513
« on: August 08, 2013, 02:57:43 AM »
I just love this episode.

I love Parker's expression as Cassandra when she catches sight of Stokes in the Evans cottage. The shocked trembling of her lower lip is really well done.  Maybe she'd been studying Johnny Karlen.

Thayer had so many great lines in this one.  Stokes is my favorite character of his which is sheer sentimentality because I also adore him as Count Petofi and PT 1970 Tim Stokes.  I love all his work in the series but these three are my favorite characterizations because all three are just so... out there.

G.

1973
Current Talk '13 II / Re: Today's Montage 1972
« on: August 07, 2013, 02:08:23 AM »
Thanks, Nicky!  I've wondered if the lore that the vampire can appear at Noon may have actually been a projection of what in some traditions is called the Fetch, an anergetic component of the human soul that supernatural beings in old European folklore are particularly adept at deploying to do their work.  The Fetch often takes the form of an animal.  It's unclear to me whether Dracula is supposed to be able to pop out of his coffin for the hour around the time of Noon and then return there, or manifest himself as an astral appearance (similar, perhaps, to how Julia "appeared" in 1897).

G.

1974
Current Talk '13 II / Re: Today's Montage 1972
« on: August 06, 2013, 05:14:01 AM »
I have this vague but persistent memory of van Helsing saying that a vampire could appear in the sun at noontime.  It is confusing because earlier on, Harker sees Dracula "sleeping" in his coffin in the crypt of the Castle.  There is a clear urgency for the vampire to seek the refuge of his coffin (AND his original burial soil) before daybreak.

There was an episode in the 1897 storyline in DS where Barn went to his coffin at dawn (in the basement of the Old House) and something happened and then he was running around for quite sometime after the sun had presumably risen though we never saw him confronting daylight.  I think this was simply the result of sloppy scripting and production but it always bemuses me when it comes up.

G.

1975
Current Talk '13 II / Re: Movie
« on: August 02, 2013, 02:11:17 AM »
I voted for NoDS. Even in its non-restored form I like it quite a bit better than hoDS (which I view as something of a guilty pleasure).

I think what makes it so exceptional is that it tells its own story.  The Lyndhurst setting, the cast we know and love so much, and the Bob Cobert score are elements that "make it DS" for me.

G.

1976
Calendar Events / Announcements '13 II / Matthew Hall video interview
« on: July 30, 2013, 09:10:09 PM »
I would guess this video was done sometime in the 1990s.  Matthew Hall discusses his personal connection to DS and his experience working on the 1990/91 series.  This is one of the few occurrences of which I am aware in which someone close to the show has actually described Dan Curtis as "the head writer" of the series.  I still think DS (the original series) was so good *in spite of* Dan's input... people who are really close to a project often take a different view from those who are spectators--or have a more objective vantage point:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WKA3CztzUY

G.

1977
Current Talk '13 II / Re: Cross-Over Question
« on: July 30, 2013, 03:47:11 PM »
Thanks, Gerard.  I'll have to look for that Art Carney episode you mention.  It sounds like a gem.

Best,

G.

1978
Current Talk '21 I / Re: And Yet Another New Slideshow
« on: July 30, 2013, 05:10:12 AM »
and it just occurred to me that perhaps Juliana was trying to acquire some BarnaDepp DNA via the most natural means available to her... lol.

G.

1979
Current Talk '21 I / Re: And Yet Another New Slideshow
« on: July 30, 2013, 05:06:15 AM »
Depp's Eddie Munster makeup and Trask wannabe line delivery ruins every scene he's in for me in this movie.  Sorry.

G.

1980
Current Talk '13 II / Re: Cross-Over Question
« on: July 30, 2013, 05:03:32 AM »
Hi Patti, the DS sets were designed and built by Sy Tomashoff for DS in the Spring of 1966 (presumably May-June).  Nobody has bothered to quote a year for this Twlight Zone episode but from what Midnite wrote it sounds as if it was done in the 1950s.

I often see old house sets on ALFRED HITCHCOCK and BORIS KARLOFF'S THRILLER that seem reminiscent of the look Sy drew upon for Collinwood, but I think it's just a general concept of what a creepy old house would look like as established in the horror and suspense genres of the mid 20th century.

According to MB, set elements from DS were re-used on other ABC soaps after DS ended, notably ONE LIFE TO LIVE.

G.

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