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Current Talk '14 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0686
« on: June 09, 2014, 09:50:14 PM »
MB, I would love to see that Julia capture, but it's not showing up for me.  Perhaps it is a browser issue...

I'm glad this episode got bumped because Julia's "repressed hysteric" line is a favorite moment.  And I so want to nudge her and say, "Pot... kettle?"

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '14 I / Re: Status on the Frid Book?
« on: June 09, 2014, 09:14:47 PM »
Rightly or wrongly, my impression of the book is to think of it as a group of fans sitting around the fire swapping stories and passing around photo albums that relate to their personal friendship and/or encounters with JF.

Just my impression...

G.

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Current Talk '14 II / Re: Lots o NoDS Q
« on: June 09, 2014, 08:55:59 PM »
The first mention of Collinwood comes from Tracy (Kate Jackson) as she and Quentin are driving up to the house... her line is something like, "I can't believe it's really Collinwood!" It's during the title credits sequence I believe.  I still need to see the new DVD...

Angelique was supposedly WRONGLY condemned as a Witch through the connivance of Charles Collins' wife, Laura, and Angelique's own husband, Gabriel.  Both were furious because Angelique was having a blatantly near-public affair with Charles.  The sequence that really establishes the affair is among the material deleted from the release print but recovered by Darren Gross, but (expletive deleted) suits at whoever owns the rights now (I think it's Universal, but don't quote me) refuses to shell out the paltry sum to have the restoration done.

I personally think that the events shown in the film strongly hint that Angelique Collins WAS a Witch, but it is left ambivalent at the close of the story.

In the screenplay, there were hints that Angelique's spirit was being psychically kept active through Carlotta's past life memories.  Towards the end the big reveal is [spoiler]that Quentin, as the reincarnation of Charles, also helps her to establish a foothold in the earth plane.[/spoiler]

It's interesting to note that the names Carlotta and Charles are forms of one another, and Carlotta's surname, Drake, refers to a kind of dragon which can commune through multiple elemental realms. (Carlotta is played by Grayson in the movie--you called her "Julia," lol.)

G.

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Victor is really starved for love and affection.  At least Caliban has the theatre and his work there.  Victor is truly alone.

G.

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« on: June 07, 2014, 06:54:18 PM »
Well, I personally thought David's entrance in the original 1966 episode was pretty shocking by the standards of the period.

We've become numbed out from the horrors of recent decades, so the stakes have had to be escalated when writers want to shock us with the spectacle of a child psychopath in fullblown mode.

It just occurred to me that the original David storyline might have been at least in part suggested by Patty McCormick's character in the brilliant film, THE BAD SEED.

G.

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« on: June 07, 2014, 03:09:42 AM »
Well... given this Vicki's awareness of Roger's Forbes status (which makes one wonder what the HELL the guy is doing in a backwater like Collinsport), she may have been more of a gold-digger than any of the previous Vickis... or at least been angling for a cushy job as house therapist to the troubled scion.  I don't recall any text about Vicki's coming to Collinwood as a personal quest for identity... I think if this was present at all in the 1991 Vicki, it was pretty understated...

I can't wait to see what MB and friends pull out of the hat when we get to the Angelique bits!  Angelique as I recall her from my one viewing really did not work for me in the pilot but it's not really fair to judge on something as brief as a 40 minute piece of unfinished film.  This thread is giving me much more of a picture of what was intended.

G.

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« on: June 06, 2014, 08:46:41 PM »
Wonderful work.

dom's comment makes me want to hunt through the early discs to try and find the scene he references involving tea, Liz, Roger and Miss Winters...

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '14 I / Re: Sleepy Hollow
« on: June 05, 2014, 05:17:23 AM »
Wow, it implies they've done a remake of the old Ron Perlman Beauty and the Beast series.  Who knew.

G.

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My friend just messaged me that this series has been renewed for a second, 10 episode season.

I haven't seen a link to confirm... apparently they are planning a big presence at the San Diego Comics Convention.

I guess Showtime actually gets the concept of niche marketing unlike the brass at the "regular" networks.

G.

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« on: June 04, 2014, 02:55:16 AM »
I love it that I asked about Maggie and Sam scenes in the 1991 show, and today's image from that rotation is a scene where the two are talking.

Of course, I still don't really remember the scene.  Very cool to learn more about the breakfast scene!  It was definitely one of the more interesting moments (to me, at least) from the 2004 pilot.

G.

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I actually thought the violence against animals, especially the scene in the underground club, was quite disturbing.  Presumably the people you mention didn't bat an eyelash. For some reason, it's OK to bludgeon another human being (or animal) in close-up slo-mo, but have one man kiss another onscreen and we're scolded for "damaging my kids with your sick garbage."  Puh-leaze, mary.

One of the subtexts that's building in this story is that the "normal" humans behave in ways more monstrous than the actual supernatural "monsters." 

Only four more episodes of this brilliant show left to air. 

G.


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michael darling, I have just the thing to calm you down... it's this enchanting new drink called absinthe... otherwise known as the Green Faery (I am so, so disappointed the writers did not invoke "the Green Faery" phrase--I mean, you're writing for Dorian Gray... do your research!)

Needless to say, I loved every moment of the ULTIMATE scene.

Apparently Oscar Wilde fascinated some really butch men back in the day... I almost thought this was a tribute to all of that...

And can I just say how much I LOVE how character-focused this show is?  THIS is how a new DS should be done...

OK, done ranting for now...

G.

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LOL.  Well Angie practically shoves her bosom right into Barnabas's face at one point...

G.

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« on: June 01, 2014, 06:37:50 AM »
Ooh, if I remember correctly, in this current scene [spoiler]there's a mention of Laura Collins.  I remember being intrigued by that.[/spoiler]

Can't wait to see this scene unfold! 

G.

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It could well have been, David-Elijah.  Hippies stumbling into/over vampires and Satanism feature in a number of early 1970s films... DRACULA A. D. 1972 and TOWER OF EVIL both come to mind (no hippies or Satanists in the latter, but a bizarre phenomenon somehow related to an ancient Pagan cult). 

I thought Burton was attempting an homage to a number of his favorite Sixties and Seventies genre obsessions in DEPP SHADOWS.  I will leave it to you whether the "homage" wound up being a delightful salute, or a ghastly train-wreck...

I can't believe I omitted to mention Quarry in my original post!  His scenes are definitely the most memorable elements of DEATHMASTER.  I really want to see RETURN OF COUNT YORGA.  The original Yorga film had at least one scene that seemed clearly to be inspired by the original Barnabas storyline of 1967.

G.

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