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Messages - Gothick

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A friend of mine has a theory that Ethan may be an avatar of Anubis, the jackal-god of ancient Egypt, who was a Psychopomp--a guide of the Dead from this realm to the Fields of the Just--the Opener of the Way, and the God who magically reunited the dismembered limbs of the dead Osiris and returned Him to life.  But Ethan may not be aware that he is an avatar...

Another friend thinks that Ethan received some form of Initiation rite from one of the tribes in his travels in America and that initiation is the source of his ability to commune with the wolves.

I like this second view the best... but it's really all pure speculation at this point.

G.

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Bat, those are excellent points.  I thought the same about the Ethan/Dorian scene but I did appreciate the subtlety and beauty of the seduction involved.

I see what you mean about the character of Sir Malcolm, but I doubt whether he's going anywhere.

I think Ethan is in some ways the biggest mystery of all.  There are a lot of theories, which some fans are practically treating as canon now, but in reality, we know very little about him.

The behavior of the Caliban character reminds me a lot of Adam, but the dialogue and the way Caliban's stuff is mounted and presented is soooo much better.  And the scenes are well paced.  The Adam scenes tended to drag on and on.  I actually think Robert Rodan did some fabulous work in the role but, sadly, few fans seem willing to acknowledge that.

G.

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Current Talk '14 II / Re: History Slideshow
« on: June 21, 2014, 12:20:56 AM »
No, JF did sometimes go over to the Halls' apartment for dinner and they would sometimes work on lines.  I don't know if she was chopping veg and spouting DS dialogue while JF was reading and sometimes prompting her at the table, or if the read-throughs happened after dinner.

It's been reported in a couple of places, but I think Matt Hall wrote about it in one of his blog entries:

http://msbhall.wordpress.com/

A number of the Shadows players used to have dinner at Grayson and Sam's. When Nancy Barrett was asked for memories about Grayson on one occasion, I think the first words out of her mouth were:  "She was a fabulous cook."

G.

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I enjoyed the trailer.  Sounds almost like a Miss Marple story but with Tony and Cassandra and a pack of malevolent Witches.

G.

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« on: June 20, 2014, 02:55:26 AM »
Well not to slight the 2004 actress (I keep forgetting her name--Kelly Hu?), Barbara Steele made an immediate, VIVID impression upon me in the shot of her just standing on the train platform in her very first shot, holding an umbrella.  And when I saw that, I had only ever seen maybe one old film with Steele.  Her PRESENCE was extraordinary.  Again, I'm not saying there was anything positive or negative about the 2004 actress; she simply failed to make an impression.

If a Barnabas/Julia scene of the content you describe was used in the 2004 casting, it definitely argues that further sketches and potentially script outlines beyond the pilot had been worked on in '04...

G.

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« on: June 20, 2014, 01:10:31 AM »
MB, are you referring to the pilot screenplay (which to be fair, is what an actress interested in the role would have been sent to read), or the final cut as shown at the Festival?  Because in all honesty, I was quite intrigued to see what Julia would do, and I remember her being onscreen all of twice, with maybe four lines at most.  Then again it was ten years ago and my short term memory is ghastly these days--and I don't even recall the Alec Newman scene that's on Youtube from that original screening; just that I thought Newman was really quite exceptional in the role (I preferred him to Ben Cross).

Miss Hu as the good Doctor left no impression upon me at all, favorable or otherwise.

G.

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Current Talk '14 II / Re: History Slideshow
« on: June 19, 2014, 03:45:06 PM »
And then he went to her apartment and sat at the kitchen table and they ran lines together while she cooked him dinner...

G.

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« on: June 19, 2014, 03:20:59 AM »
Julia was such a nothing role in the version of the pilot I saw; it's hard to imagine any actress being tempted by a copy of that script. If an actress had seen some episodes of the OS or of, say, hoDS, though, she might have been tempted by those versions of the role.  It's too bad that so far as I can determine, we have no idea at all what TPTB planned for Julia in this iteration.

G.

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« on: June 17, 2014, 02:10:27 AM »
I apologize for repeating myself, but I totally love this.  Interesting that the very late casting of Julia meant some of her scenes were scrapped.  It makes one wonder whether the role was originally offered to another actress who kept them on the hook a little too long.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '14 I / Joan and Grayson
« on: June 15, 2014, 11:54:17 PM »
A fan just posted this charming video tribute featuring stills and screen shots of Joan Bennett and Grayson Hall interspersed with text screens about the lives and careers of each:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOFMaMCxCyE

I thought the "Arabian nights" musical track was a nice touch.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '14 I / Re: Happy birthday, Nancy!
« on: June 13, 2014, 04:47:23 PM »
Happy Birthday!

Best, Gothick

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« on: June 13, 2014, 03:11:05 AM »
I'm just now finding myself thinking how strange it is that Collinsport had a hospital.  I never thought about this before.  I grew up on a waterfront town (on the Chespeake Bay) and the one hospital in the county was located in our town, so all the births happened there. 

In the original series and in the first episode, from what the old woman tells Vicki on the train, the last thing you would expect to find in Collinsport is a hospital... or medical center of any kind.  Since the college was in Rockport, that is where I would have expected the hospital to have been as well.

Thank you again MB for all the work you're putting in on this.  Just enjoying this so much.

The first sight I recall of Julia in this was [spoiler]a scene involving the discovery of a body; I'm guessing the body of Willie's girlfriend, but I really don't remember just whose body it was.  I don't remember a hospital scene at all.  Maybe towards the very end?  It's all so vague now. [/spoiler]

G.

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Current Talk '14 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0686
« on: June 11, 2014, 10:31:39 PM »
Oh my, that IS choice. Thanks, MB.  I wonder if that was the expression on Grayson's face when she reportedly informed the producers of OLTL over the telephone one memorable afternoon in 1982, "No more high heels, and NO MORE GOD DAMN TWEED."

I would have crawled over broken glass to see her laying down the law that day...

G.

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To fans of the 1991 DS,

I had never heard of this early 1970s film featuring Jean Simmons (Elizabeth Collins Stoddard) as a middle aged woman aggressively courted by a delectably enthusiastic Leonard Whiting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm2DMCPUlkU

I'm wondering if the film was ever distributed in the US...

G.

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« on: June 10, 2014, 02:54:46 PM »
It's really too bad Roger was cut from that scene.

I think we asked back at the time if there were script outlines or treatments for 13 episodes and if there were, those notes have never surfaced.  I'm sure something must have been prepared though when they were working on this project.

I still remember Jim Pierson saying when introducing a screening of the pilot (which I think was in the year 2004... or was it '05?), "it should have been a slam dunk.  It's hard to know what happened."

or words to that effect.

G.

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