Well... given this Vicki's awareness of Roger's Forbes status (which makes one wonder what the HELL the guy is doing in a backwater like Collinsport), she may have been more of a gold-digger than any of the previous Vickis... or at least been angling for a cushy job as house therapist to the troubled scion.  I don't recall any text about Vicki's coming to Collinwood as a personal quest for identity... I think if this was present at all in the 1991 Vicki, it was pretty understated...

I can't wait to see what MB and friends pull out of the hat when we get to the Angelique bits!  Angelique as I recall her from my one viewing really did not work for me in the pilot but it's not really fair to judge on something as brief as a 40 minute piece of unfinished film.  This thread is giving me much more of a picture of what was intended.

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Wow, it implies they've done a remake of the old Ron Perlman Beauty and the Beast series.  Who knew.

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I love it that I asked about Maggie and Sam scenes in the 1991 show, and today's image from that rotation is a scene where the two are talking.

Of course, I still don't really remember the scene.  Very cool to learn more about the breakfast scene!  It was definitely one of the more interesting moments (to me, at least) from the 2004 pilot.

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michael darling, I have just the thing to calm you down... it's this enchanting new drink called absinthe... otherwise known as the Green Faery (I am so, so disappointed the writers did not invoke "the Green Faery" phrase--I mean, you're writing for Dorian Gray... do your research!)

Needless to say, I loved every moment of the ULTIMATE scene.

Apparently Oscar Wilde fascinated some really butch men back in the day... I almost thought this was a tribute to all of that...

And can I just say how much I LOVE how character-focused this show is?  THIS is how a new DS should be done...

OK, done ranting for now...

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Ooh, if I remember correctly, in this current scene [spoiler]there's a mention of Laura Collins.  I remember being intrigued by that.[/spoiler]

Can't wait to see this scene unfold! 

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Well, even today "the occult" is a pretty common catch-phrase that's used among people who move in certain circles.  It's kind of a stand-in for a more precise word that English doesn't have to denote a very broad spectrum of paranormal phenomena and the cultural expressions and traditions that have crystallized around said phenomena.  In recent years the word "occulture" has become popular for the social and cultural dynamics of communities that people form in the pursuit of certain inquiries.

Getting back to Penny Dreadful I thought Rory Kinnear's performance as "Caliban" was really amazing... even though the events represent a new departure for how we've seen this story played out in other narratives, the interaction and dialogue for the good Doctor and his progeny comes closest to Mary Shelley than I've ever seen on film...

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Fans, A friend loaned me the DVD of this film and I just finished watching it.  I was very surprised to see John Lasell (who played Dr. Guthrie, nemesis of Laura Collins) show up in a minor role as a copy.  I did a short review of the film for a friend's site:

DEATHMASTER (1972). How do you sum up an early Seventies B-movie horror hash that includes vampires, hippies, biker boys, Satanism, communes, surfer boys, nubile chicks out for a good time and a worldly-wise cougar who knows how to swing, incense, peppermints, "organic" food... oh and LEECHES? Sublime in its awfulness, this one really has it all. It's really, truly, insanely bad, but just try to look away. Bobby "Boris" Pickett sings a hippie ballad about finding yourself, TV regular John Fiedler appears as a sort of gay hippie granny named Pop (Fiedler actually goes through the film wearing a macrame vest--hey, it was the Seventies!) and Dark Shadows alumnus John Lasell plays a cop. As if that weren't enough, infamous soap diva Brenda Dickson debuts as a confused hippie chick who becomes prime vampire bait. Directed by cult actor Ray Danton. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-rcsNNmlXY

The movie was a fun watch.

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