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Calendar Events / Announcements '14 I / Re: Happy birthday, Nancy!
« on: June 13, 2014, 05:47:23 PM »
Happy Birthday!

Best, Gothick

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Current Talk '21 I / Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« on: June 13, 2014, 04:11:05 AM »
I'm just now finding myself thinking how strange it is that Collinsport had a hospital.  I never thought about this before.  I grew up on a waterfront town (on the Chespeake Bay) and the one hospital in the county was located in our town, so all the births happened there. 

In the original series and in the first episode, from what the old woman tells Vicki on the train, the last thing you would expect to find in Collinsport is a hospital... or medical center of any kind.  Since the college was in Rockport, that is where I would have expected the hospital to have been as well.

Thank you again MB for all the work you're putting in on this.  Just enjoying this so much.

The first sight I recall of Julia in this was [spoiler]a scene involving the discovery of a body; I'm guessing the body of Willie's girlfriend, but I really don't remember just whose body it was.  I don't remember a hospital scene at all.  Maybe towards the very end?  It's all so vague now. [/spoiler]

G.

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Current Talk '14 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0686
« on: June 11, 2014, 11:31:39 PM »
Oh my, that IS choice. Thanks, MB.  I wonder if that was the expression on Grayson's face when she reportedly informed the producers of OLTL over the telephone one memorable afternoon in 1982, "No more high heels, and NO MORE GOD DAMN TWEED."

I would have crawled over broken glass to see her laying down the law that day...

G.

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To fans of the 1991 DS,

I had never heard of this early 1970s film featuring Jean Simmons (Elizabeth Collins Stoddard) as a middle aged woman aggressively courted by a delectably enthusiastic Leonard Whiting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm2DMCPUlkU

I'm wondering if the film was ever distributed in the US...

G.

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Current Talk '21 I / Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« on: June 10, 2014, 03:54:46 PM »
It's really too bad Roger was cut from that scene.

I think we asked back at the time if there were script outlines or treatments for 13 episodes and if there were, those notes have never surfaced.  I'm sure something must have been prepared though when they were working on this project.

I still remember Jim Pierson saying when introducing a screening of the pilot (which I think was in the year 2004... or was it '05?), "it should have been a slam dunk.  It's hard to know what happened."

or words to that effect.

G.

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Current Talk '14 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0686
« on: June 09, 2014, 09:50:14 PM »
MB, I would love to see that Julia capture, but it's not showing up for me.  Perhaps it is a browser issue...

I'm glad this episode got bumped because Julia's "repressed hysteric" line is a favorite moment.  And I so want to nudge her and say, "Pot... kettle?"

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '14 I / Re: Status on the Frid Book?
« on: June 09, 2014, 09:14:47 PM »
Rightly or wrongly, my impression of the book is to think of it as a group of fans sitting around the fire swapping stories and passing around photo albums that relate to their personal friendship and/or encounters with JF.

Just my impression...

G.

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Current Talk '14 II / Re: Lots o NoDS Q
« on: June 09, 2014, 08:55:59 PM »
The first mention of Collinwood comes from Tracy (Kate Jackson) as she and Quentin are driving up to the house... her line is something like, "I can't believe it's really Collinwood!" It's during the title credits sequence I believe.  I still need to see the new DVD...

Angelique was supposedly WRONGLY condemned as a Witch through the connivance of Charles Collins' wife, Laura, and Angelique's own husband, Gabriel.  Both were furious because Angelique was having a blatantly near-public affair with Charles.  The sequence that really establishes the affair is among the material deleted from the release print but recovered by Darren Gross, but (expletive deleted) suits at whoever owns the rights now (I think it's Universal, but don't quote me) refuses to shell out the paltry sum to have the restoration done.

I personally think that the events shown in the film strongly hint that Angelique Collins WAS a Witch, but it is left ambivalent at the close of the story.

In the screenplay, there were hints that Angelique's spirit was being psychically kept active through Carlotta's past life memories.  Towards the end the big reveal is [spoiler]that Quentin, as the reincarnation of Charles, also helps her to establish a foothold in the earth plane.[/spoiler]

It's interesting to note that the names Carlotta and Charles are forms of one another, and Carlotta's surname, Drake, refers to a kind of dragon which can commune through multiple elemental realms. (Carlotta is played by Grayson in the movie--you called her "Julia," lol.)

G.

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Victor is really starved for love and affection.  At least Caliban has the theatre and his work there.  Victor is truly alone.

G.

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Current Talk '21 I / Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« on: June 07, 2014, 06:54:18 PM »
Well, I personally thought David's entrance in the original 1966 episode was pretty shocking by the standards of the period.

We've become numbed out from the horrors of recent decades, so the stakes have had to be escalated when writers want to shock us with the spectacle of a child psychopath in fullblown mode.

It just occurred to me that the original David storyline might have been at least in part suggested by Patty McCormick's character in the brilliant film, THE BAD SEED.

G.

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Current Talk '21 I / Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« on: June 07, 2014, 03:09:42 AM »
Well... given this Vicki's awareness of Roger's Forbes status (which makes one wonder what the HELL the guy is doing in a backwater like Collinsport), she may have been more of a gold-digger than any of the previous Vickis... or at least been angling for a cushy job as house therapist to the troubled scion.  I don't recall any text about Vicki's coming to Collinwood as a personal quest for identity... I think if this was present at all in the 1991 Vicki, it was pretty understated...

I can't wait to see what MB and friends pull out of the hat when we get to the Angelique bits!  Angelique as I recall her from my one viewing really did not work for me in the pilot but it's not really fair to judge on something as brief as a 40 minute piece of unfinished film.  This thread is giving me much more of a picture of what was intended.

G.

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Current Talk '21 I / Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« on: June 06, 2014, 08:46:41 PM »
Wonderful work.

dom's comment makes me want to hunt through the early discs to try and find the scene he references involving tea, Liz, Roger and Miss Winters...

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '14 I / Re: Sleepy Hollow
« on: June 05, 2014, 05:17:23 AM »
Wow, it implies they've done a remake of the old Ron Perlman Beauty and the Beast series.  Who knew.

G.

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My friend just messaged me that this series has been renewed for a second, 10 episode season.

I haven't seen a link to confirm... apparently they are planning a big presence at the San Diego Comics Convention.

I guess Showtime actually gets the concept of niche marketing unlike the brass at the "regular" networks.

G.

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Current Talk '21 I / Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« on: June 04, 2014, 02:55:16 AM »
I love it that I asked about Maggie and Sam scenes in the 1991 show, and today's image from that rotation is a scene where the two are talking.

Of course, I still don't really remember the scene.  Very cool to learn more about the breakfast scene!  It was definitely one of the more interesting moments (to me, at least) from the 2004 pilot.

G.

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