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I was thinking about bathrooms at Collinwood for some reason today and I realized that in hoDS, there is a scene where Carolyn has just come out of a bathroom, presumably one equipped with a shower, if I recall correctly.

Granted, the bathroom wasn't actually SHOWN.

G.

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I wonder if the original film mentioned was early 1930s.  I think Joan went brunette fairly early on in her career. 

A friend loaned me his DVD of SUSPIRIA which I have never seen all the way through.  It was Joan's last feature film.  Her final appearance before the cameras, so far as I am aware, was "This House Possessed," a 1983 TV film with Parker Stevenson.  It was a real shock to see Joan playing a half-mad bag lady wheeling a shopping cart around town in that one.

Best, G.

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Current Talk '23 I / Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« on: January 03, 2015, 01:54:08 PM »
Glad to see the '04 slideshow is starting up again!  I'll enjoy reading at least some of it once again.

If you do have time to write about the changes in how the final scene wound up being shot and edited, I would be interested to read that.

Happy 2015!

G.

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Current Talk '23 I / Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« on: December 31, 2014, 11:35:48 PM »
As scripted, that scene could have been quite powerful.

I really can't think of what to say about how I remember it actually playing onscreen.  It just did not work for me.

Again, many thanks MB for this labor of love!  Happy New Year!

As for Gerard's request, we all know what the WB home video department thinks of DS... what more need be added...

G.

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Current Talk '23 I / Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« on: December 31, 2014, 03:52:36 AM »
Thanks again, MB.  I look forward to your summary of the pilot finale sequence, which really did not work for me, though all I can recall is one image.

This has been a fantastic ride!  Thanks to yourself and all others involved in making this happen.

Best,

G.

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Current Talk '23 I / Re: Depp/Burton DARK SHADOWS Is In Release!!
« on: December 18, 2014, 11:03:21 PM »
Despite my views on the Depp Shadows confection, I am aware that how it is presented in the mass media (including the interwebs) is very much distorted by the fact that, if it were the 1930s, Burton would have been declared Box Office Poison by now--regardless of the fact that the DS movie MADE MONEY.  In H'wood, spin is all.

I wonder if Depp is getting to the same point in his career. I was surprised at the ferocity of the attacks made on him just because he was mildly drunk delivering a short speech at somebody's gala recently.  I played the video and the reaction seemed really extreme.  Media prudery in full dudgeon--to paraphrase Lord Macaulay (if I'm remembering correctly), the unspeakable in pursuit of the inedible.

G.

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Current Talk '23 I / Re: Depp/Burton DARK SHADOWS Is In Release!!
« on: December 18, 2014, 08:54:49 PM »
Burton mentions Depp Shadows and his personal explanation for why it was perceived as a failure here.  (I haven't played the interview, but there's a post about it today on the Collinsport Historical Society site that summarizes Burton's comments.) 

It's interesting to me because he seems to acknowledge here that the film failed--artistically, at least:

http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/interview-tim-burton-talks-making-big-eyes-going-digital-the-disturbing-process-of-alice-in-wonderland-more-20141218?page=2

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '14 II / OT: 1795
« on: December 12, 2014, 04:24:27 PM »
Interesting news item.  I wonder whether they will find a piece of paper bearing the immortal line, "Everyone has the right to be found innocent until proven innocent" (did I misquote that correctly)?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/11/boston-another-time-capsule-unearthed/20272595/

G.

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Current Talk '14 II / Re: Vicki's parentage
« on: December 12, 2014, 02:48:30 PM »
Gerard, I love your story.  Beautiful concept.

Thinking about the character of Vicki I sort of feel that the character never really existed in the DS Universe after 1968. In both the 1991 and 2004 Shadows iterations, she's the actual reincarnation of Josette (this is certainly heavily implied in the scene MB is showing us now from 2004).  In the Burton/Depp film, Vicki truly doesn't exist; the name is only an alias.

There was something very special about the character of Vicki during the first year of the series.  I'm very grateful that we now have the episodes from that period to enjoy and contemplate the true beginnings of our beloved story.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '14 II / Re: The Vampire Diaries
« on: December 12, 2014, 04:01:18 AM »
A friend who occasionally watches DS told me today that there is a character on this show named Josette.  He said she is a Witch and there were a couple of other details he shared that I can't recall.

Sounds like a definite nod to our show...

G.

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Current Talk '14 II / Re: Vicki's parentage
« on: December 11, 2014, 07:44:47 PM »
There's a DS wiki that might have a topic about the Innovation Comics for the 1991 series.  They might offer synopses there.  I didn't read every issue but I vaguely recall a panel where Liz was reflecting that Vicki was really her own daughter.

Despite all that's been said, I feel the need to repeat that in the original 1960s series, the idea that Liz was Vicki's daughter was most likely a red herring (as we used to say).  I personally prefer thinking of Vicki as being the child of Liz because of the chemistry onscreen between the two and some of the dialogue that the scripts gave them. Also, Vicki was much more solicitous of Liz during the first two years than Liz's own acknowledged daughter, Carolyn.

There are various theories of who Vicki's parents were but the most likely are that she was Paul's child by another woman (I personally suspect Betty Hanscombe, but another fan firmly ruled that out; can't recall why).  There's no doubt that Alex posed for the portrait of Betty displayed in some 1966 episodes.  Amusingly, the portrait shows up later on in a 1967 or '68 episode in Sam's studio.

G.

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She only has one scene in it.  It's a pretty decent scene for her, but it lasts maybe four minutes.

G.

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There's a link on YT for this episode (Grayson's Route 66 show), but it's on a channel called Shout Factory TV and an adult check request comes up (for reasons that baffle me):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16NRNgrlAZY

I guess if you're set up for Adult Check, you can log in and watch it.

Don't know if it might be on Hulu or other venues.  The title is, "Follow the white dove with the broken wing."

G.

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Current Talk '23 I / Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« on: December 10, 2014, 07:33:41 PM »
Again, I wish I had some memory, ANY memory of the tune for Josette's music box from this version.

Many thanks for the script excerpts.

Best,

G.

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Current Talk '23 I / Re: And Yet Another New Slideshow
« on: December 09, 2014, 03:27:42 PM »
In today's shot from the movie, is that Naomi's portrait weeping tears of blood behind BarnaDepp?  That's actually pretty cool.

G.

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