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Current Talk '15 II / Re: Laura 1785/1897
« on: September 29, 2015, 03:59:08 PM »
Doesn't 1897 Laura recall Barnabas as a rather sad, thoughtful child in one line?  I thought it implied that she was an adult woman when they had met in the 1780s.  The 18th century concept of adult was different from our own so she might have been a teenager... it's all quite vague.

The reality, of course, is that they kept changing the backstory to accommodate whatever they were writing at the time. Remember when Barnabas and Josette's love suddenly turned out to have happened in 1797, and that date was written in ugly red paint on her portrait?

G.

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Current Talk '15 II / Re: "Blue Whale" reference from 1968
« on: September 26, 2015, 02:40:42 AM »
It would seem that gay men are divided into two groups:  those who adore every arched eyebrow, camp innuendo and tongue-lashing torture-marathon of BITB, and those who just find it all "so very ugly."  Three guesses which "camp" I belong to.

Maybe I'll spot more DS references.  I have the distinct feeling that the playwright was a fan.

G.

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Current Talk '15 II / "Blue Whale" reference from 1968
« on: September 25, 2015, 10:22:51 PM »
Fans,

I was re-visiting the 1970 film BOYS IN THE BAND, which already has two DS connections that are known to me--via actor Keith Prentice and cinematographer Arthur Ornitz.

I was quite surprised in a short kitchen scene in which flaming queen Emory (Cliff Gorman) mixes a vodka tonic drink in a blender for the butch Keith Prentice character.  The vodka is a lurid blue (looks more like gin to me, but I don't drink) and Keith asks, "What the hell is that--Windex?" Without missing a beat, Emory camps, "It's a blue whale! Oh Mary, don't ask!"

The play is set in 1968 which I believe was the year it debuted Off-Broadway. DS actors Don Briscoe and Chris Bernau were cast members at one point.

G.

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Current Talk '15 II / House of Dark Shadows to air again on TCM
« on: September 22, 2015, 04:12:33 PM »
Dear fans,

This notice was posted on the Collinsport Historical Society site today:

Turner Classic Movies will be airing HOUSE OF DARK SHADOWS at 3:30 a.m. EST, Saturday, Oct. 3. The film is part of a late-night horror movie package, and will air immediately 1974's HOUSE OF THE SEVEN CORPSES and the 1963 classic, THE HAUNTING.

Note: TCM's schedule can be a little confusing. HOUSE OF DARK SHADOWS falls onto the channels "primetime" schedule, which begins at 8 p.m. and extends to 6 a.m. the following day. While it's slated to be broadcast "Oct. 2," the film technically airs on the morning of Oct. 3.

Best,  G.

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I remember a skit that I think was set in a classroom and Carol was the teacher.  Suddenly everything started shaking--it was an earth tremor.  Without missing a beat (I think she was actually walking across the room), Carol said, "Stay calm, children, I just felt the earth move."  You could hear the audience going wild. 

I could imagine something similar happening on DS though of course, they did not tape with an audience.

G.

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Sounds wonderful.  Carol used to make me laugh so hard I would literally roll around on the floor.  I'll never forget my first viewing of "Sunnyset boulevard."  grand stuff!

G.

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Current Talk '15 II / Re: Laura 1785/1897
« on: September 21, 2015, 09:50:05 PM »
They are just little hints--a line here, an anxious grimace there.  Effective, and quite understated.

I enjoy the finale, but the whole storyline pretty much goes right off the cliff.  Thayer David gets one of my favorite roles, however, and some wonderful moments.

G.

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Current Talk '15 II / Re: Laura 1785/1897
« on: September 21, 2015, 03:31:58 PM »
In PT 1970, it's hinted a few times that the house itself was cursed.  But that got dropped in favor of other developments in the final phases of the storyline.

G.

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Current Talk '15 II / Re: Grant Douglas/Quentin Collins
« on: September 21, 2015, 03:28:04 PM »
I thought 1970 PT Quentin had some interesting moments, as did 1840 Quentin.  In both cases, there was an attempt to re-boot the character, but then in the insanity of churning through the episodes, they quickly went back to a kind of loveable rogue default for the character.  The same thing happened with Joan Bennett's roles, apart from Judith who did get to pull out quite a few stops.  I love Judith's final series of conversations with "dear Gregory."

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '15 II / Happy Birthday Grayson Hall!
« on: September 18, 2015, 10:39:54 PM »
Sept. 18 was the late Grayson Hall's birthday.  She would have been 93 or 94, most likely (she practically made a separate career out of keeping her age a secret).

Besides her fab work on our show, Grayson is remembered for her Academy Award (tm) nominated role in NIGHT OF THE IGUANA.  Fans also fondly cherish her work in SATAN IN HIGH HEELS, the TV movie GARGOYLES, a recurring role as Euphemia Ralston on ONE LIFE TO LIVE, and roles in the two DS feature films.

Quiet please, there's a lady onstage.

G.

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Current Talk '15 II / Re: Laura 1785/1897
« on: September 18, 2015, 10:30:42 PM »
The real reason for the curse on the family had nothing to do with the house.  It was Angelique.

I really don't care for the revised history of the core narrative unveiled in the 1840 storyline.  But I guess, Lela, who was running the show at that point, felt they had to go somewhere different.

G.

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Current Talk '15 II / Re: 1970PT Watching Project Addendum Revisited
« on: September 17, 2015, 10:09:48 PM »
A complaint I have about PT 1970 (a storyline I really love, btw), is that PT Liz was originally given outdated sweaters and off the rack skirts to wear.  Very mousy and dowdy. When she "came back" from her "rest," she was back to the standard issue "Elizabeth Collins Stoddard, Lady of the Manor" wardrobe.  And the dialogue about her anxieties when Quentin was late with her monthly check also disappeared.

G.

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Current Talk '15 II / Re: 1970PT Watching Project Addendum Revisited
« on: September 16, 2015, 02:33:41 AM »
According to the episode guide compiled by Ann Wilson in the 35th Anniversary Edition of DS Memories, the PT 1970 Costume Ball sequence was taped over 5/21 and 5/22.  I think the film shoot had already wrapped some weeks previous to that.

G.

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Current Talk '15 II / Re: Murky/Inaccurate Memories...?
« on: September 15, 2015, 04:33:41 PM »
1966 Roger in the original series was intended by Art Wallace to be the villain in the story, but his sinister nature was supposed to unfold gradually.  One thing 1966 Roger wasn't, was a womanizer.    I thought the 2012 Roger was like a caricature of the 1966 character, but I think there were a number of Roger scenes and moments that went into the cutting room bin due to the studio directives about the re-cutting of the picture.

Sarah wasn't a character in the 2012 redaction.  Barnabas had been born in England in that version.  Maybe Burton's attempt at a sly nod at the whole "cousin from England" business.

Are you thinking of Judah Zachary from the 1840/1692 storyline in your mention of Judah Macabee?  Judah was part of the revised Angelique origin story and her original name having been Miranda. (Even though the Countess told Vicki in 1795 that she had known Angelique as a child.)

 I'm really surprised Eva Green (whose PENNY DREADFUL series you really should check out) has reportedly signed to work with Burton again on a new project.  I thought she was given dreadful makeup and horribly mis-directed in Depp Shadows.  But, evidently, she was sincerely in saying in interviews that she loved working with Burton.  I hope this doesn't tank her career, which has had some speed bumps already.

G.

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Current Talk '15 II / Re: 1970PT Watching Project Addendum Revisited
« on: September 14, 2015, 10:34:24 PM »
They did often tape shows out of order.  In Thayer David's Spring 1969 radio interview, he refers to taping of shows having been re-scheduled from what had initially been posted.

A lot of the people on the show reportedly worked without contract, which may have had to do with juggling schedules if they chose to go off and do a play, as did happen with several of them from time to time.

G.

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