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Calendar Events / Announcements '16 II / Re: Daughters of Darkness
« on: June 29, 2016, 07:57:50 PM »
It's an interesting remark because I recall Frid saying in interviews (this is going back to when the show was still on) that he would often think of Shakespeare, particularly Richard III, when he was playing Barnabas.

I don't know if Karlen referred to that because JF used to discuss this with him.  They must have spent a lot of time running lines together given all the scenes they had one on one.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '16 II / Re: Daughters of Darkness
« on: June 29, 2016, 07:00:57 PM »
Great interview. But I can see why fans thought he was basically equating DS with "garbage."

G.

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A roughly 8 minute "in remembrance" slideshow that was shown, with some very rare photos of some of the cast, crew, writers etc.--several I had never seen before:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6j3t9nUd_U

The only one I didn't know as John Devoe, if I'm even recalling his name properly.

Fans applaud for each photo.  The applause and shouts, cheers, etc. for some are really rather.... I got verklaempt!

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '16 II / Re: My Tarrytown experience
« on: June 28, 2016, 02:28:33 AM »
To meet the Mysterious One is a privilege vouchsafed to few (paraphrasing a line from one of my all time favorite films, HORROR HOTEL from 1960).

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '16 I / Re: Penny Dreadful
« on: June 28, 2016, 01:40:08 AM »
A major plot strand in Season 1 was dropped abruptly and apparently never resumed.  It was kind of reminiscent of all the stuff about Gerard's pirate ship, the Java Queen, and her matey zombie crew--a major plot point in Summer 1970 that was practically nonexistent once they started with 1840.

Of the regulars, I don't think they ever bothered to integrate Dorian Gray at all into the plotline.  Too bad because Reeve Carney is really very good and was a screen presence who grew on me (initially, I just couldn't accept him as Oscar Wilde's Dorian, but this version of the character had his own groove going on).

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '16 II / Re: My Tarrytown experience
« on: June 28, 2016, 01:35:36 AM »
It sounds really wonderful.  That's awesome that Nancy had such a great time and that John Karlen was able to participate so much.

Thanks for the write-up, Uncle Roger.  I've met Midnite several times and she's a lovely, gracious lady.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '16 I / Re: Penny Dreadful
« on: June 27, 2016, 02:28:54 AM »
My perception, for what it's worth, is that a number of people, starting with John Logan, the writer/creator of PD, had other projects to move onto.  Logan had mentioned in interviews during the first year that he had planned a 3 year arc.  In a couple of interviews that I have read since the finale was broadcast, he said that during the course of working on season 3, it had become clear to him that the end of the arc was also going to be the end of the series.  Apparently the principal players involved, including Eva, agreed.

Pretty much the same thing with the "cancellation" of DS although it's never been directly stated that Dan Curtis was the one who ultimately made the decision to pull the plug so he could direct NoDS and then move onto other things.  That is the only explanation that fits the chronology and the other pieces of info that have become available over the years. He certainly had a full plate as soon as the series ended and he pretty much kept gone right on for decades afterwards.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '16 II / Re: Daughters of Darkness
« on: June 27, 2016, 02:16:12 AM »
That's a cool ad, MB.  I of course have no memory of Karlen's interview, though I almost certainly read it all those years ago.  Would be interesting to read that again.

Sorry you found the ending a downer, Patti.  I think it's kind of cool, but to each his own.

For anyone interested, I have long suspected that this movie was meant to be a kind of homage to Roger Vadim's film BLOOD AND ROSES (1960).  In the 1795 storyline, specifically around the time of Angelique's wedding to Barnabas, they actually restaged a certain sequence from that film (BLOOD AND ROSES).  I saw the French film long before I ever got to see the 1795 episodes (I started watching DS a few months after the conclusion of 1795, in 1968) and when I did finally get to see those shows, it instantly struck me that once again, DS was "borrowing" from the best.

Anyhow the finale of DAUGHTERS OF DARKNESS mirrors the finale of BLOOD AND ROSES in a few ways.

G.

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Interesting.  Either she was deliberately making a statement, or she just didn't think--or didn't care.

I am "friended" to Lara Parker's personal page on the FaceBeast ("you BEAST! you BEAST!"), which is how I've been seeing a lot of photos from the Festival since they tag her on them.  I'm not really interested in being friended to various peripheral actors at this point.  My postings here are one of the very few involvements in DS fandom I have maintained.  I have too many other demands on my time for anything beyond this.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '16 II / Re: Daughters of Darkness
« on: June 26, 2016, 02:32:47 PM »
John's commentary on that film is priceless.  I think he mentions having an altercation with the director when the latter behaved badly with the ingenue actress.  As usual, I can't recall the details.

I actually remember reading about the movie when it finally got its US release.  I don't think that was until sometime in '71 though I think it was filmed in 1970, soon after John participated in hoDS. Rex Reed gave the movie a very strong good review in a New York paper that my grandfather used to buy.  I was so surprised because Rex usually did not have much time for horror films. 

Most of the scenes were done in one take.  I think John talks about how his stage training and, of course, his experience doing DS made it something he could do. Delphine also had a lot of stage experience.   She has this really long monologue in this one incredible scene where she's describing how Countess Bathory tortured her victims and in part of it, Karlen is nestled up against her and she's stroking his nipple.  They don't make em like that anymore.

G.

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Thanks for the review of "The House" screening, Michael.  Maybe it will be included on MPI's next DS quidnunc.  It would be NEW material...

As for McKechnie, par for the course.  But there could have been something occurring behind the scenes that led her not to want to be there.

G.

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A fan who must be attending confirmed that John Karlen is indeed at the Festival.  I looked again and I noticed he was holding Marie Wallace's hand.  It was sweet.

G.

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That's very cool.  I don't remembering whispering to the person I was sitting next to.  I had forgotten the thing about some stupid exec's vendetta against Grayson.  Expletive deleted!

Oddly I read the same thing a few months ago about Majel Barrett.  I was watching the first season of Original Series Star Trek and I was reading some stuff fans had compiled online.  A couple of the suits really took a personal dislike to Majel and loathed the fact that she played the first mate character in the original pilot.  When she returned in the role of Nurse Chapel in the reboot, the same execs loudly complained that they didn't want to see her in there at all.  Somehow or other, these imbeciles were overruled.

It's way off topic at this point, but an energetic young man at a gathering I attend in Ontario a couple of times each year always calls me "Majel Barrett" whenever he sees me.  He is an art historian and an authority on Egyptology and 19th-20th century British art.  I take this as a high compliment.

G.

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Clearly, someone who works for TV Guide understands that the true signature personage of DARK SHADOWS is The Pen.   This is why the show is usually described in web blurbs as "DARK SHADOWS, the Gothic soap opera featuring the exploits of that legendary villain, The Pen, who terrorized the residents of an isolated mansion in Maine."

In many middle and high schools, there was a telephone tree where kids would phone one another around 4:02 p.m. to inform everyone "make sure to turn it on, gang!  The Pen showed up in the opening monologue!!!!!!!!"

G.

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