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I think there's already a thread for this, but I'm not sure just where it is.

Online version of the KLS David Henesy interview. This version supposedly includes material not published in the mag (which I have not seen).

https://www.fangoria.com/original/david-henesy-interview/

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '21 I / Re: Terror at Collinwood
« on: June 25, 2021, 07:32:56 PM »
Interesting info about both the NoDS restoration and the continuing saga of the "Reincarnation" reboot. Good stuff!

I haven't seen any of Ansel Faraj's films, but I added the one about the Haunted House of Venice Beach to my Watch Later list on you tube. As Ansel mentions in the interview, this was the final work Chris Pennock ever performed in, and it's mentioned that he recites a piece of poetry that is VERY familiar to veteran DS fans. May his spirit know peace.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '21 I / Terror at Collinwood
« on: May 02, 2021, 02:11:24 PM »
Our very own and much beloved Penny Dreadful has begun a new DS podcast: TERROR AT COLLINWOOD!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irvY8PAuueQ&list=PLkKN4d4hugdPuC5Fqbsr_xyehJzIwkZSF&index=94

There's a website for the podcast, too:

https://www.terroratcollinwood.com/

Themes from the first episode include Penny's memories of how she got into DS thanks to her extremely cool Uncle Vlad (!), her discovery of DS fandom in the 1980s, general thoughts about the series and its relationship to the genres of the Gothic tradition and supernatural terror in literature and film, and her conviction, which she argues brilliantly, that DS was NOT CAMP.

cheers, G.

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Current Talk '21 I / Episode 197
« on: April 25, 2021, 04:02:07 PM »
A few days ago I viewed DS episode 197 and was startled to see on the production slate that this was marked, and announced as, take TWO of this show. I can't recall having seen that in my current viewing which began with episode 123.

I wondered if this was a rare instance where the tape broke while they were taping. I noticed what seemed like an edit towards the end of the episode--I think it was a scene between Roger and Jason in the basement.

It's been funny watching these shows to recall that a lot of the stuff I've read about the series described the weeks immediately prior to the arrival of Barnabas as so abysmally slow and boring that the ratings were plummeting. Notwithstanding those repeated statements, my experience has been that the episodes of February and March of 1967 have proved to be among the most exciting I can ever recall seeing in any storyline of the show. Now I'm wondering whether it was true that the ABC network suits had issued an ultimatum to Curtis regarding the fate of the show. They were making some changes to their schedule around this period, so I suppose it is possible. But if it happened, it certainly wasn't because the show was somehow "boring."

G.

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Current Talk '21 I / The Secret of Laura Collins
« on: April 15, 2021, 05:51:53 PM »
Dear fans,

A few weeks ago, I started re-watching the original 1966-67 Laura Collins storyline, beginning with the episode in which Laura first arrives at the Maggie Evans Coffee Shop (as I have come to think of it). I've really been enjoying this, in part because this is the first time in decades that I've been watching DS on a regular daily basis. My delighted discovery is that I love the show more than ever.

A few observations: First, despite what you may have read or been told, Malcolm Marmorstein was a REALLY good writer. Based on his Laura scripts, I'd rate him up there with Violet Welles and Joe Caldwell. Maybe Marmorstein's early Barnabas scripts--his final period of writing for the show--weren't up to the gold standard of his work on the Laura storyline; it's so long since I viewed those early Barnabas shows that I can't comment (but I might be able to do so eventually, if I keep watching). In an interview on one of the MPI DVDs, Marmorstein revealed that during his final month or so of writing for the series, he had gone out to LA for an extended stay. In the interview, he said that he did this because his wife told him she needed a vacation from living in NYC. Evidently, Bob Costello and others interpreted Marmorstein's month-long sojourn out on "the Coast" as his looking for another job--and that may have in fact been in the case, but Marmorstein claimed it wasn't. All that notwithstanding, nevertheless he revealed that when he was told that his association with Dark Shadows was at an end, Marmorstein immediately began working on Peyton Place. He claimed in the interview that this was a fluke which occurred thanks to a chance conversation, but it's certainly an interesting development. He actually said he didn't miss a single day of work between composing his last script for Shadows and his first one for Peyton.

In my previous viewing of the Laura saga (which I recall as having been patchy and intermittent), I'd definitely picked up that elements of Laura's storyline were re-used for the Cassandra storyline. Now that I've been watching it all properly, in a regular, orderly manner, I'm struck by how much of what was done with early Barnabas and subsequent supernatural storylines during the 1967-1969 period was established by specific plot features and structures of the Laura storyline.

We have a mysterious blonde relative who unexpectedly shows up in town with a problematic backstory. We have multiple incarnations, or are they incarnations, of the same person over a period of 200 years. We have a major character being proclaimed as "one of the Undead." We have a seance, which leads to yet another seance. We have the ghost of Josette Collins, heralded by the smell of jasmine perfume. We have the Undead character's obsession with an important family member. We have a threat to David. We have dreams of occult significance, though so far the dreams are only described, not staged. We have mysterious portraits with an evil influence. In one scene, Laura even gives David a music box, though it has not been referred to in subsequent follow-up shows.

There's more, too. But since so much of this was written by Malcolm Marmorstein, I definitely get why he felt he should receive credit for inventing the Barnabas character. So many of the elements seem to have been re-used, in a shifted or modulated form, from how he wrote Laura.

G.

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Testing. 1, 2, 3... / Re: https
« on: April 06, 2021, 08:34:09 PM »
It's pretty strange. Hope you don't have any further problems.

Gothick

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Current Talk '21 I / Fifty years ago
« on: April 02, 2021, 03:21:07 PM »
Greetings, fans,

I still remember this day 50 years ago today... this year, April 2 is again a Friday.

Back then, each day I kept waiting for the story to go back to 1971 so we could see what Barnabas and Julia were doing. But when Thayer's fateful voiceover came on at the end of the episode, I knew it really was the end.

Five years later, the series started running in syndication in my local market (on a Philly based station, in point of fact) and it was a new beginning, particularly since I had never seen any of 1967. I'd started watching in late June of '68.

And this morning, I watched Dark Shadows again--currently viewing the 1966/67 Laura storyline.

Remembering,

Gothick

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A love letter to Geoffrey Scott:

http://www.collinsporthistoricalsociety.com/2021/03/in-memoriam-geoffrey-scott-1942-2021.html

Scott himself said in his interviews (which you can watch on you tube) that he wasn't very good in DS. Like so many, he had a lot of problems with getting the lines and blocking down on such a tight schedule.

 [Easter 6 Egg]

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Hi MB,

Great shots in response #669! That's our Julia.

The "football helmet wig" (I don't recall ever hearing it described that way before) did come out of the mothballs for a Maggie flashback sequence in 1968. I remember being very surprised that they went to the trouble of trying to get the hair and clothes right for that, and for some of the other scenes of Maggie's flashbacks during that period.

Excelsior!

G.
[Fast Delivery]

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Calendar Events / Announcements '21 I / Violet Welles Interview
« on: February 26, 2021, 06:39:02 PM »
For those who haven't seen it, here is the only interview I have ever been able to find with DS writer Violet Welles. I consider her and Joe Caldwell the most talented and distinguished of all the people who wrote for the show.

https://darkshadowseveryday.com/2015/08/30/interview-violet-welles/

G.

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Current Talk '21 I / Re: Everyone In Collinsport's Favorite Word Slideshow
« on: February 25, 2021, 08:17:08 PM »
That scene with Sam and Joe encountering Julia at the Old House really is priceless. Nice capture of her in the Robs.

Today's scene reminds me of that old chart-buster with the refrain, "Go ask Julia ... feed your head."

G.

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Current Talk '21 I / Re: Everyone In Collinsport's Favorite Word Slideshow
« on: February 23, 2021, 09:02:09 PM »
Great shot (and line quote) of Magda today!

I watched an episode a few nights ago where Quentin wanted to summon Angelique, and Magda warned him: "She could be anywhere on Earth ... OR (dramatic pause) IN ... HELLLLL!" It was such a great moment.

G.

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Or maybe not. Another quote from the Hollywood Reporter article:

Readers of Catton's 800+-page epic may barely recognize the book from that description, but rest assured that the murder mystery that becomes an obsession for 12 male residents of a mining town, each aligned with a sign of the zodiac, hasn't been lost entirely. It's just been pushed deep into the series the fifth episode in particular by which time very few of the men in that council have been clearly identified beyond perhaps their jobs and their facial hair. The zodiac connection, meanwhile, is unconvincingly laid out only in voiceover. If I'm giving the opening scene credit as a meta-commentary on a certain kind of contemporary television tendency, I'd point to this as a commentary on adapting prestige literary works for a different medium an awareness that what works on the page can sometimes play as fundamentally silly or hollow on-screen, yet you have to keep it for fans of the original.

There are further discussions of the typical meta-narrative crap ticks and tricks the people who worked on this play that made me increasingly disinterested in current TV, having walked away from all of it after the sabotaging of Penny Dreadful's narrative--the last "current" series I watched (but abandoned after season 2)--a young friend told me similar things recently about her own experience with the Game of Thrones debacle, having invested years and lots of emotions in characters and situations that squashed against the big flat wall of the final 2 seasons like an overripe tomato.

Still, nice photo in the article. And I'm glad Eva is getting away from the malign influence of Tim Burton.

G.

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That sounds good.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '21 I / Re: Christopher Pennock 1944 - 2021
« on: February 14, 2021, 04:33:51 PM »
Very sad news. May his spirit know peace.

"And in the double lotus keep
My hidden heart asleep."

--Old Chinese prayer to Kuan-yin

G.

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