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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #1695 on: April 18, 2024, 12:26:12 AM »
And yet two more stills to revisit:

When it comes to the stills I sort of associated with Scene 146 because they were taken in and around the cemetery set, after I came across the stills posted to AOL back in the '90s, I discovered a much better version of the one of Grayson Hall. Today I updated that post with the better version:

...

For a change it's not Nancy Barrett posing around a set/location that Claire didn't appear in, it's Grayson Hall posing at the cemetery set, where Carlotta never appeared, -


- and wearing one of two dresses she appears in stills wearing but she never wore as Carlotta in the film (but more on that at a later time). A somewhat cropped version of this still appears on page 172 of DS Memories.

...

And I also came across this one -


- which I'm sharing for the first time. And when it comes to it, I'm not aware of it having been officially published anywhere...

...

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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #1696 on: April 18, 2024, 04:04:20 PM »
And even more stills worth revisiting:

And even though these have nothing to do with the cemetery set and were taken outside Lyndhurst, I've often wonder if these three stills were taken on the same day as the Lobby Card:


(Click here for a 800X1053 version)


(Click here for a 800X1235 version)


(Click here for a 800X1189 version)

A somewhat longer version of the top still was shared on page 190 of the Return To Collinwood book. I'm pretty sure I've never seen the other two officially published anywhere...

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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #1697 on: April 18, 2024, 06:02:14 PM »
Revisiting yet another still:

...

And a candid of Thayer David in nearly full (he's missing the gloves and hat) Strack regalia that -


(Click here for a 678X700 version)

- may have been taken on the day Strack's trampling was shot or Angelique's hanging. I'm not sure which, so I held off sharing it until now. As far as I know, it's never been officially published anywhere...

And finally, at least for this go around, another still directly related to Scene 146 - one that I've never shared before -


(Click here for a 867X576 version)

- and one that so far as I'm aware has never been officially published anywhere.

And a bit of trivia: eagle-eyed fans will notice the name Amos Ross on the tombstone, a tombstone that was apparently recycled from the daytime series. Does anyone besides me remember how it was used and in which storyline?

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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #1698 on: April 18, 2024, 08:12:02 PM »
...

We do see the opening of Scene 143, up to and including that long moment while Quentin -


- stares up - however, everything beyond that point in Scene 143 is missing from the film, and is indeed on the list of unrecovered footage - and one thing that's interesting is how abruptly the background music ends before the film switches to the next scene that is in the film - but more on that in a later post.

---

Here'a a video of how things play with the VHS/Laser:


The background music slowly fades and a footstep is heard.

And here's how things play with the Blu-ray/DVD:


No footstep is heard and an abrupt cut off with the music would make it seem as if things should have continued:

143    QUENTIN - HIGH ANGLE                                143

       SEEN from third floor as he looks TOWARD CAMERA.  HOLD
       FOR A LONG MOMENT until it seems he is about to start
       up the stairs.  Instead, he turns and practically runs
       down the stairs to the first floor and EXITS THE SHOT.
       HOLD ON EMPTY CORRIDOR until the SOUND OF THE FRONT
       DOOR can be heard OPENING AND CLOSING O.S


But Darren indicated on his Restoration Web site:

Quote
The following is a list of scenes that are still lost and which are not present in the 129 min version recovered in 1999.

...

HIGH ANGLE. Quentin runs from the house. EXT.COUNTRYSIDE. Quentin struggles, stops has flashback.

1971.COUNTRYSIDE.NIGHT. Quentin in trance returns to house.

And the missing material in indeed not on the recovered list. And all that makes it something of a mystery as to why the music abruptly cuts off if the missing footage wasn't a part of the 129 minute version, particularly with other examples of music being different on the Blu-ray/DVD versus the VHS/Laser it's because footage was cut during the marathon editing but it was recovered when the 129 minute version was found. But who knows...

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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #1699 on: April 19, 2024, 02:08:10 PM »
Revisiting how Scene 148 and the start of Scene 149 are scripted:

And picking things up with the next scene in the script:

148    INT - MASTER BEDROOM - NIGHT                        148

       CLOSE ON TRACY as she lies in bed sound asleep.  HOLD
       until she stirs, then WIDEN to reveal she is alone.
       Through the window in the B.G. the tower can be seen.
       A light glows there.  Tracy opens her eyes and,
       noticing the light, she gets out of bed and crosses
       to the window.  TRUCK IN ON HER as she tries to decide
       what to do.

149    INT - STAIRWAY TO THIRD FLOOR - NIGHT              149

       as Tracy comes TOWARD CAMERA PAN WITH HER as she
       crosses to the tower stairs.  HOLD ON HER BACK as
       she climbs to the door.  Hesitant, timid, she knocks.
       THE SOUNDS OF MOVEMENT can be heard inside.

                             TRACY
                 Quentin!

       There is no answer.  She raps harder.


And that's when Tuesday's first quote -


Page 70/Scene 149 - Tracy: 'Quentin!'

- comes up, followed in the script by:

The door suddenly opens, revealing a seemingly
drunken Quentin staring down at her.  Past him she
can see the rumpled cot.


And that's when Tuesday's second quote -


Page 70/Scene 149 - Tracy: 'I...I thought you weren't
coming back here...'

- comes up.

And when it comes to what's different with the dialogue, Tracy actually says "I...I thought you said you weren't gonna come here anymore..."

And when it comes to what's different with the descriptions and directions, in DC's script he's added to the setting on Scene 148:

INT - MASTER BEDROOM - NIGHT - FROM WINDOW SIDE

And right below that he's also added:

148A   P.O.V - TOWER

However, he doesn't make any changes to the descriptions, so it's interesting that his Scene 148A doesn't begin close on Tracy as she lies in bed sound asleep - nor does it hold until she stirs, then widen to reveal she's alone - and neither is it the case that through the window in the background the tower can be seen - and all that is because the scene actually begins with a shot through the window with the tower being seen with a light coming from it - and after that we do not see Tracy opening her eyes because when we see her her eyes are already wide open. And considering that so much of how the scene is scripted to open is not actually in the film, it begs the question of whether or not the background music in what is seen of Scene 143 is cut so short because at one time Scene 148 did open as scripted but, as a part of the enforced editing, what is missing was cut for time? But whatever the reason for the abrupt ending of the music is, from the point we see Tracy with her eyes open, Scene 148 plays as Tracy gets out of bed and crosses a few steps to the window - however, the camera doesn't truck in on her as she tries to decide what to do because Scene 149 begins immediately after that - however DC made changes to that setting, too:

              3RD FLOOR LANDING
INT - STAIRWAY TO THIRD FLOOR - NIGHT

And right below that he's also added:

149A   INT - LOWER TOWER

So, it will probably come as no surprise that things here don't exactly begin the way it's scripted. How things actually play is that in Scene 149 and shot from the 3rd floor landing we see Tracy coming up each section of the stairs -



and then she hesitates a few moments as she looks at the third floor ahead of her -



- and then after having moved closer to them, Tracy hesitates for just a fraction of a second -


- before making her way to the tower stairs. And then when it comes to DC's Scene 149A, Tracy isn't seen ascending the stairs from behind but rather -


- from her front - and after Tracy knocks on the tower door for the first time, we don't actually hear the sounds of movement from inside - in fact, when there's no respons from her second knock, she actually turns away from the door -


- and is about to start down the stairs before Quentin opens the door -


- and stares down at her - however, Quentin doesn't seem as if he's drunk - and after she brings up that Quentin had said he wasn't going to come to the tower anymore (and I do love the nervous little smile Tracy shows before -


- she mentions that), it doesn't appear that Tracy somehow sees a rumpled cot. We certainly don't see it.

[pointing-up]  And so far as "Tuesday's" quotes go, they also appeared on a Tuesday this time around, but on April 16th.

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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #1700 on: April 20, 2024, 12:00:10 AM »
Beginning to revisit the subtitles and closed captioning (with new screen captures) for Scene 149:

When it comes to the subtitles and closed captioning for the opening moments of Scene 149, it's interesting that each interprets Tracy's calling to Quentin differently - the subtitles have -


- with a "?" - whereas the closed captioning has -


- with a "!" - and that way is actually how the script intended it to be.

Also, after Quentin does finally open the door, what Tracy says to him is, "I...I thought you said you weren't gonna come here anymore..." - however, the subtitles and the closed captioning present her line in slightly different ways - the subtitles have -


- with the "I...I" hesitation ignored in favor of a single "I" - and the closed captioning has -


- with the hesitation intact but with "gonna" changed to the grammatically correct "going to," even though Tracy actually says "gonna."

...

(ADMIN: Edited to replace TV video screen captures)

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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #1701 on: April 20, 2024, 03:16:00 AM »
More of how Scene 149 is scripted:

Continuing with Scene 149:

He does not answer.

And that's when Wednesday's quote -


Page 70/Scene 149 - Tracy: 'Quentin, what's happened to you? What's wrong? There's...there's someone in that room with you, isn't there?'
(Along with the graphic for anyone who might have missed it.)

- comes up, followed by today's quote -

Page 70/Scene 149 - Quentin: 'Tracy, why don't you go back to bed.'

- coming up.

And when it comes to what's different with the dialogue, Tracy actually says "Quentin, what's happened to you? ... What's wrong? ... There's someone else in that room, isn't there?" - and Quentin drops the "Tracy" in his quote, and it's chilling how emotionlessly he delivers it.

And when it comes to what's different with the descriptions and directions, what's scripted is exactly how that plays out, but there are some things that aren't scripted. For instance, the camera slowly trucks in on Tracy as she delivers her lines - and she reaches out to Quentin before -


- she asks him what's wrong - and she looks up into the tower room before she states that someone else-


- is in there. (Though we still have mo idea if Tracy can see a rumpled cot. To me things play as if she can tell intuitively that someone is in the tower besides Quentin.)

 [pointing-up]  And as far as "Wednesday's quote" goes, it also appeared on a Wednesday this time around, but on April 17th, and as for "today's quote," it was April 18th's this time around.

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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #1702 on: April 20, 2024, 03:58:28 PM »
A still definitely worth revisiting:

And today I have a behind the scenes candid still to share that's associated with Scene 149:


(Click here for a 1400X1067 version)

David Selby and Kate Jackson are in a decidedly different mood than their characters are in the scene...

And you will no doubt recall, especially considering its number is written on its bottom right corner, that still is #17 in the NoDS Editor's Portfolio. The interesting thing about it, though, is that, unlike most of the other stills that are a part of that portfolio, I don't recall it ever having been published anywhere back in the day, or even today...

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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #1703 on: April 21, 2024, 12:10:00 AM »
Continuing to revisit how Scene 149 is scripted:

Moving on with Scene 149:



149    CONTD                                      CONTD   149

And that's when today's first quote -

Page 71/Scene 149 - Tracy: 'I know someone's in there!'

- comes up, followed in the script by:

Finally he blows.

And that's when today's second quote -

Page 71/Scene 149 - Quentin (mimicking her): '"I know someone's in there"...You make me sick! I can't even stand the sight of you anymore.'

- comes up, followed in the script by:

       TRACY - QUENTIN'S P.O.V.

       She can hardly talk as the tears well from her eyes.


And that's when today's third quote -

Page 71/Scene 149 - Quentin (O.S.): 'Now get out of here!'

- comes up.

And when it comes to what's different with the dialogue, Tracy actually says "Is there's someone else in that room" - and to that Quentin actually replies"'Is there someone else in that room'...You make me sick! I can't stand the sight of you anymore! Now get out!", with the second and third quotes combined.

And when it comes to what's different with the descriptions and directions, the editing is a bit different than indicated - but before we get into that I have to say that I love the smile Quentin displays before he mimics Tracy's question -


- and before he "blows" - and when it comes to his angry outburst, as can be seen in today's second capture, the shot actually features Tracy at first -


- and that lasts as long as Quentin is angrily declaring "You make me sick!" - and then the shot shifts to Quentin -


- as he declares "I can't stand the sight of you anymore!" - and contrary to what the third quote indicates, Quentin is still on screen -


- as he orders "Now, get out!" - and it's after that that the shot returns again -


- to one of Tracy.

 [pointing-up]  And as far as "today's" quotes go, they were on April 19th this time around.

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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #1704 on: April 21, 2024, 03:30:40 AM »
Finishing a revisit of the subtitles and closed captioning (with new screen captures) for Scene 149:

And wrapping up the differences in the subtitles and closed captioning when it comes to Scene 149, after Tracy says she thought Quentin said he wasn't going to come to the tower amymore, she notices something about him has changed and she asks, "Quentin, what's happened to you?" - and the closed captioning reflects that - however, the subtitles have -


- and then before Tracy asks if there's someone else in the tower room, the closed captioning indicates the sound of -


- and makes it seem as if that's what prompts Tracy to look toward the room and then to ask her question - but in all the previous times I've seen the film, I've never heard footsteps - and while if you turn the volume up all the way, there is indeed the slightest of sounds heard, I find it hard to believe it was meant to be that the sound of a footstep prompted Tracy when the sound is so barely perceptible - but who knows? - though what is fascinating is that the closed captioning acknowledge the supposed sound of footsteps yet there's no acknowledgement of the huge sound the door makes when Quentin finally swings it open (or when he closes it later in the scene)...

Also, before Quentin taunts Tracy by mimicking the repeat of her question, the closed captioning indicates that he prefaces it with a -


- (though to me it's always sounded like "Hmm") but only the closed captioning reflects that - and after Quentin says that Tracy makes him sick, he says "I can't stand the sight of you anymore! Now, get out!" - and the subtitles reflect that - but the closed captioning has -


- with both "anymore" and "Now" dropped...

...

(ADMIN: Edited to replace TV video screen captures)

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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #1705 on: April 21, 2024, 03:34:00 PM »
Finishing off revisiting how Scene 140 is scripted:

Wrapping up Scene 149:

       QUENTIN - TRACY

       As she turns and runs down the stairs TOWARD CAMERA.
       He calls after her.


And that's when today's quote -

Page 71/Scene 149 - Quentin: 'And don't ever let me catch you up here again!'

- comes up, followed in the script by:

       As she runs by CAMERA, he SLAMS AND BOLTS the door.

End of scene - but not the end of the sequence as scripted. But that will wait until next time...

And when it comes to what's different with the dialogue, in a bit of unscripted dialogue Quentin once again orders "I said get out" - and then what he actually warns is "Don't you ever let me catch you up here again!"

And when it comes to what's different with the descriptions and directions,  things do not switch to a 2 shot of Quentin and Tracy as the script indicates - instead, the close-up of Tracy continues as she looks back up at Quentin -


- in hurt and shock - and then becoming quite calm again, Quentin orders Tracy -


- to get out a second time -  and it isn't until after that that in a 2 shot we see -


- Tracy turn and start down the stairs, but she doesn't run down them - and when Quentin warns Tracy not to ever let him catch her there again, as can be seen in today's capture, the shot simply features Quentin -


- so we do not see Tracy run by camera - and afterward, while he does slam the door shut, we don't hear him bolt it.

And tomorrow we'll feature more material that is not in the 94 or 97 minute versions of the film but some of which may be in the 129 minute version. But more on that next time...

 [pointing-up]  And as far as "today's quote" goes, it was on April 20th this time around.

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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #1706 on: April 22, 2024, 03:10:42 PM »
...

And when it comes to what's different with the dialogue, in a bit of unscripted dialogue Quentin once again orders "I said get out" - ...

...

And the subtitles and closed captioning handle that unnscrip[ted line this way:


It's interesting how the light on Quentin'e face appears blue on the VHS/Laser yet white on the Blu-ray/DVD...

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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #1707 on: April 22, 2024, 03:36:08 PM »
...

It's interesting how the light on Quentin'e face appears blue on the VHS/Laser yet white on the Blu-ray/DVD...


Actually, the light isn't quite as blue on the Laser Disc, but it's still not white. But the lighter tone of the blue could be because the skin tones are a lot better on the Laser Disc than they are on the VHS.

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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #1708 on: April 22, 2024, 05:40:10 PM »
Revisiting how Scene 150 is scripted:

...

150    INT - TOWER ROOM - NIGHT                           150

       Quentin stands leaning with his back against the
       door.  PAN WITH HIM as he crosses to Charles' un-
       finished painting which is now on his easel.  It is
       obvious that he has progressed the painting himself
       in the original style.  He picks up his brush, does
       something, then looks O.S.; he smiles.  SLOWLY PAN
       in the direction of his gaze to reveal the strangely
       opalescent Angelique, who lies on the cot, holding
       out her arms to him.

       QUENTIN - MEDIUM ANGLE

       PAN WITH HIM as he crosses to her.


And that's when today's quote -

Page 71/Scene 150 - Quentin: 'How could I have ever thought you were a dream?'

- comes up, ...

...

And so far as differences with the dialogue, the descriptions, and the directions go, (this) scene (isn't) in the film as it currently stands, so there's no way of telling what might be different. ... Scene 150 is not on the (unrecovered) list, so there's a chance that it may be in the 129 minute version.

And speaking of Scene 150, in Grayson's script there's quite the interesting note that reads: "Intercut Q in sexual ecstasy caressing A. Allow stroking kissing" Sounds like it could be quite the scene, reminiscent of what was cut out of Scene 85 (the tower makeout scene) in the 94 minute version.  [9341]

 [pointing-up]  And as far as "today's quote" goes, it was on April 21st this time around.

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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #1709 on: April 22, 2024, 09:16:52 PM »
A post worth revisiting regarding the graphic for Scene 150's quote:

You may wonder, if I said I've never come across a still from Scene 150, then why did I make a graphic for that scene -


- using this still:


Well, that's because Scene 150 says Angelique "lies on the cot," which indeed she is doing in the still, so even if it's not specifically associated with Scene 150, it comes damn close. And she may not be "holding out her arms" to Quentin, but as we've seen numerous times already, even when it comes to stills definitely known to be associated with specific scenes, they often depict characters in ways other than how the script describes them. Plus, I love that still.

And as a bonus, here's a very rarely seen alternate shot:


 [nods]