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Offline retzev

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Drunken Shadows
« on: February 15, 2006, 07:38:14 AM »
Just watched DRUNKEN MASTER ('78) with Jackie Chan -

About 1hr 15 min into the film, when Wong Fei Hung's teacher is finally demonstrating his Eight Drunken Gods style of Kung Fu, some of Robert Cobert's DS music is used, and the same piece is heard again later during a fight scene!

Anyone know any other films that swiped a little DS music?
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Re: Drunken Shadows
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2006, 10:32:13 PM »
There is another film that Dan produced that has Dark Shadows music in it.  The invasion of Carol Enders,  It has Meredith Baxter and John Karlen and a glimpse of James Storm in it.  I can't remember much about the movie, except the music was quite familiar.
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Re: Drunken Shadows
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2006, 01:38:51 AM »
The music from Curtis' classic made-for-TV film, The Night Stalker, has some very Dark Shadowish music to it, a few bits and pieces lifted directly from DS.

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Re: Drunken Shadows
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2006, 01:52:43 AM »
Curtis also used Cobert's DS music on his tv pilot Dead of Night, and his Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde with Jack Palance also included the future Quentin's theme.  I believed DS pieces were also used in his version of Dorian Grey. There were probably others!

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Re: Drunken Shadows
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2006, 02:18:05 AM »
The DS playroom theme is played by the music box in Dan Curtis's Burnt Offerings.

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Re: Drunken Shadows
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2006, 04:07:23 PM »
Several years ago, I remember seeing a Spanish-language television program that looked like a soap opera of sorts.  It was shot on videotape and took place in what I assume was a mansion.  There was a storm raging outside, and odd little "stings" of DS music were interjected at what seemed to be odd moments.  Someone would be in the middle of a long speech, and a one- or two-second burst of music would suddenly appear on the soundtrack.  I don't speak Spanish, so they might have been used to underscore especially important and dramatic bits of dialogue.  However, it seemed as if they were just thrown in randomly because they came in the middle of speeches, rather than at the end of them.
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Re: Drunken Shadows
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2006, 01:23:04 AM »
Quote from: petofi on February 18, 2006, 01:52:43 AM
Curtis also used Cobert's DS music on his tv pilot Dead of Night, and his Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde with Jack Palance also included the future Quentin's theme.  I believed DS pieces were also used in his version of Dorian Grey. There were probably others!

It sounds as if DC did an actual movie of every plot he stole for a storyline of DS!
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Re: Drunken Shadows
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2006, 10:50:13 PM »
Quote from: MagnusTrask on February 22, 2006, 01:23:04 AM
Quote from: petofi on February 18, 2006, 01:52:43 AM
Curtis also used Cobert's DS music on his tv pilot Dead of Night, and his Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde with Jack Palance also included the future Quentin's theme.  I believed DS pieces were also used in his version of Dorian Grey. There were probably others!
It sounds as if DC did an actual movie of every plot he stole for a storyline of DS!

And recycled Cobert's music in all of them!
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Re: Drunken Shadows
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2006, 07:02:29 AM »
Your resident musicologist here with a note about "recycling".  EVERY and I mean EVERY composer recycles compositions or themes at one time or another with maybe the exemption of Mozart.  Just about the entire Handel "Messiah" came from various organ concertos, operas, church music or other smaller compositions.  Because why not?  You got a good tune, why not re-use it?  When you have to churn out a big output in short time frame why not rework what you've already done?

From what I understand, Cobert made the decision to "recycle" his themes, not Dan Curtis.  He was working on Dark Shadows and Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde at the same time.  Cobert is a really good film/TV composer.  Thus, why wouldn't different movies want to use his great themes?  And, why shouldn't he be able to use the themes he wrote for different projects?

It always makes me happy to recognize them in different productions.
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Re: Drunken Shadows
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2006, 09:07:05 AM »
Quote from: victoriawinters on February 23, 2006, 07:02:29 AM
You got a good tune, why not re-use it?  When you have to churn out a big output in short time frame why not rework what you've already done?

The Ramones made a career of it! Brilliantly, I might add -  8)

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Re: Drunken Shadows
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2006, 05:41:00 PM »
Quote from: victoriawinters on February 23, 2006, 07:02:29 AM
Your resident musicologist here with a note about "recycling".  EVERY and I mean EVERY composer recycles compositions or themes at one time or another

Boy, is that ever the TRUTH!  Case in point, went and saw 'The New World' over the weekend (HORRIBLE flick btw) and it was scored by James Horner, one of my all-time favorite movie composers.  Horner also scored 'Braveheart' back in the 90's and there was one piece of music in NW that was DEFINATELY a re-tool of a piece from BH.  Noticed it right off!   :D

Quote from: victoriawinters on February 23, 2006, 07:02:29 AM
Cobert is a really good film/TV composer.

Indeed he is, too bad he's an arrogant SOB though!!  Met him at the Hollywood Fest and was NOT impressed at all w/him.  Come to think of it, I shouldn't have been surprised really as he comes off as quite arrogant in the DS Behind The Scenes tape.   :-
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