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« Reply #120 on: January 26, 2024, 10:34:49 PM »
Terror at Collinwood Episode 75: The Dreamers - The Novel that Inspired the Dream Curse with Amanda Desiree and Steve Shutt (aka the DS Forums' own ProfStokes and Gothick)
 
The Dream Curse storyline in Dark Shadows was inspired by an obscure 1957 horror novel called The Dreamers, written by Roger Manvell. Although this was revealed by writer Ron Sproat at the first DS Festival, many remain unaware of the book and its influence on the Dream Curse plot. Returning to the podcast are Amanda Desiree and Stephen R. Shutt, who are both writers and longtime fans of Dark Shadows and all things spooky. We spend the first half of this episode examining The Dreamers, comparing and contrasting the novel to the plot line in the show. In the second half of the episode, we have some fun interpreting the symbolism of the DS Dream Curse as we try to determine the greatest fear of each dreamer.
 
AUDIO VERSION:
www.terroratcollinwood.com/episodes/terror-at-collinwood-episode-75-the-dreamers-the-novel-that-inspired-the-dream-curse-with-amanda-desiree-and-steve-shutt
 
VIDEO VERSION:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23D0JO1ZW7o
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« Reply #121 on: February 06, 2024, 04:32:46 PM »
I can't tell you how excited I was to see this post answering my question from 2009, here:

http://dsboards.com/SMF/index.php?topic=17198.msg141663#msg141663

Title: Dream Curse Story Origin
Post by: Philippe Cordier on March 20, 2009, 07:11:26 PM

At any rate, in "The Dark Shadows Almanac: 30th Anniversary Tribute," there is a page titled "Dark Shadows Sources," and it lists a story by an unknown author, "The Dream Deceivers," as the inspiration for the 1968 Dream curse instigated by Cassandra Blair.

Does anyone know anything about this story? I've done a google search and didn't come up with anything.

- Philippe Cordier


If "The Dream Deceivers" was a published book or short story, Bette and Luciaphil were not able to find any trace of it back in 2002 using their library resources.
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Thanks, Midnite.

The Dream Curse storyline is the first extended sequence of DS that I remember from childhood, so it has special significance to me. It was so terrifying at that time. Surprisingly, I don't remember too much about it from my viewing of the series in the 1990s on SciFi.

It's interesting to think of the mileage that some unknown author's story got, and he or she has never been properly credited!

- Philippe


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In which post Midnite referred back to the question as previously posed in 2002:

http://dsboards.com/SMF/index.php?topic=1424.msg9971#msg9971

Title: Dream curse question
Post by: kuanyin on June 04, 2002, 04:53:09 PM

22 years is a long time to wait, but I'm glad there's finally an answer!

- Philippe

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« Reply #122 on: February 09, 2024, 07:51:29 PM »
Terror at Collinwood Ep 76: John Logan, Celebrated Playwright & Screenwriter, Talks Dark Shadows, Monsters, Showtime’s Penny Dreadful, and more!

Award-winning playwright and screenwriter John Logan created the Showtime series Penny Dreadful, and has written numerous plays, including Red, Never the Sinner, and Peter and Alice. In addition, the prolific Mr. Logan has written screenplays for major motion pictures such as The Aviator, Hugo, Gladiator, Sweeney Todd, and many others. John also happens to be a passionate Dark Shadows fan! He visits the podcast to talk Dark Shadows, Showtime’s Penny Dreadful, Universal Monsters, classic horror, and much more! In the process, John discusses the impact DS has made on the terror and speculative fiction genre, and how it inspires his own work as a creator. This is one episode you will not want to miss! Bonus question for you at the end: So, you want to live in Collinwood?
 
 
AUDIO version: www.terroratcollinwood.com/episodes/terror-at-collinwood-episode-76-john-logan-celebrated-playwright-amp-screenwriter-talks-dark-shadows-monsters-showtimes-penny-dreadful-and-more
 
VIDEO version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cGdfrNxOwo

And available at Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Audible, and all major podcast apps.

I can't tell you how excited I was to see this post answering my question from 2009, here:

http://dsboards.com/SMF/index.php?topic=17198.msg141663#msg141663

Title: Dream Curse Story Origin
Post by: Philippe Cordier on March 20, 2009, 07:11:26 PM

At any rate, in "The Dark Shadows Almanac: 30th Anniversary Tribute," there is a page titled "Dark Shadows Sources," and it lists a story by an unknown author, "The Dream Deceivers," as the inspiration for the 1968 Dream curse instigated by Cassandra Blair.

Does anyone know anything about this story? I've done a google search and didn't come up with anything.

- Philippe Cordier


If "The Dream Deceivers" was a published book or short story, Bette and Luciaphil were not able to find any trace of it back in 2002 using their library resources.
Midnite


Thanks, Midnite.

The Dream Curse storyline is the first extended sequence of DS that I remember from childhood, so it has special significance to me. It was so terrifying at that time. Surprisingly, I don't remember too much about it from my viewing of the series in the 1990s on SciFi.

It's interesting to think of the mileage that some unknown author's story got, and he or she has never been properly credited!

- Philippe


..........................

In which post Midnite referred back to the question as previously posed in 2002:

http://dsboards.com/SMF/index.php?topic=1424.msg9971#msg9971

Title: Dream curse question
Post by: kuanyin on June 04, 2002, 04:53:09 PM

22 years is a long time to wait, but I'm glad there's finally an answer!

- Philippe

Philippe, I am THRILLED and delighted to hear this. Thank you for posting to let me know. I was really hoping the episode would reach those who've been asking this question for years. As mentioned in the episode, the waters were muddied by the odd inclusion in the Almanac and I put forward a couple of theories about why they did that. One I didn't mention was that it might've been an ill-conceived prank ("deceivers" - hmm), but I hope that itsn't the case. My guess is that it was kind of a fudge as a way of including it without drawing attention to the fact that the novel wasn't/isn't in the public domain! That said, neither is 'The Lottery', so who knows why that was done? Weirdly, the info has been out there for a long time as Ron Sproat told the fans at the first Festival that the Dream Curse storyline was inspired by the novel, 'The Dreamers'. It just flew past a lot of our radars. Hopefully, this episode will shed more light on it.
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« Reply #123 on: February 23, 2024, 03:21:51 PM »
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. . . My guess is that it was kind of a fudge as a way of including it without drawing attention to the fact that the novel wasn't/isn't in the public domain! That said, neither is 'The Lottery', so who knows why that was done? Weirdly, the info has been out there for a long time as Ron Sproat told the fans at the first Festival that the Dream Curse storyline was inspired by the novel, 'The Dreamers'. It just flew past a lot of our radars. Hopefully, this episode will shed more light on it.

I think that would be the most reasonable assumption - if something is "inspired by" another work, with enough changes made from the source material, perhaps there wouldn't be any legal liability? TV shows seem to have done this all the time, yet I don't recall ever hearing of any lawsuits for plaigiarism with respect to this.

I'm glad I checked back to this thread because it reminded me that I didn't finish listening to the podcast - I only got to the point where you were discussing this issue, so I haven't heard the discussion of the book itself yet. I was able to find an out of print copy of the hardcover edition of the novel that is in very good condition (though without the dust jacket), and it appears to be very well written. I was surprised to see that the publisher was Simon & Schuster I think it was . . . not a publisher of "schlock" by any means!

Your upcoming interview with the Mr. Logan the screenwriter sounds really good, too!


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« Reply #124 on: February 29, 2024, 07:38:06 PM »
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« Reply #125 on: March 01, 2024, 01:15:05 AM »
Terror at Collinwood Episode 77: Kathryn Leigh Scott Returns!

Actress and writer Kathryn Leigh Scott, admired by Dark Shadows fans for her portrayals of Maggie Evans, Josette DuPres Collins, Rachel Drummond, Kitty Soames, Parallel Time Maggie Collins, and Maggie Evans from MGM’s House of Dark Shadows, returns to the podcast to chat about a variety of fascinating topics! Along the way, Kathryn shares stories about her childhood in Minnesota, her Norwegian heritage, her teen years, and being New York in the 60’s. She also offers touching memories of several DS cast-mates including Mitchell Ryan, Joel Crothers, Joan Bennett, Jonathan Frid, and Lara Parker. Other highlights include: Kathryn’s opportunity to interview Carl Sandburg, NYC and The Bunny Years, training at the American Academy of Dramatic Arts, and reuniting with Dan Curtis in England for the 1974 production of The Turn of the Screw TV movie. We also talk about some exciting things coming up in the future, such as this summer’s Dark Shadows Remembrance event and Ansel Faraj’s upcoming film, The Great Nick D!

AUDIO VERSION:
www.terroratcollinwood.com/episodes/terror-at-collinwood-episode-77-kathryn-leigh-scott-returns

VIDEO VERSION:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5sfYX1W1p0

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« Reply #126 on: March 01, 2024, 08:16:05 AM »
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« Reply #127 on: March 20, 2024, 01:55:07 AM »
Terror at Collinwood Episode 78: Sam Irvin Was a Teenage Monster Hunter!

Award-winning filmmaker, writer, and television director Sam Irvin visits the podcast to talk about some of his monstrous adventures and his childhood love of Dark Shadows. Topics include: discussion about his books The Epic Saga Behind Frankenstein the True Story, and the 1973 film it covers, and the Rondo-winning I Was a Teenage Monster Hunter, Sam’s origins as a Monster Kid, his decades-long friendship with Vincent Price, his first meeting with Cassandra Peterson (Elvira) and how he got the job directing Elvira’s Haunted Hills, how Dark Shadows influenced his TV show Dante’s Cove, co-executive producing Gods and Monsters and being on the set during the filming of the Bride of Frankensteinscene, Famous Monsters of Filmland, collecting the Dark Shadows Paperback Library novels, and much more!

AUDIO VERSION:
www.terroratcollinwood.com/episodes/terror-at-collinwood-episode-78-sam-irvin-was-a-teenage-monster-hunter
 
VIDEO VERSION:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjhcpdrIwDI


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« Reply #128 on: March 20, 2024, 03:27:14 PM »
First of all, congratulations to you, Penny. It's richly deserved!!

I know Sam fairly well through Facebook, though we have yet to meet in person. Our paths first crossed many years ago when I attended the premiere of Elvira's Haunted Hills in California. You would think that a movie premiere would be this glamorous, red carpet event. Obviously not, since they let me in. But the movie was a lot of fun and Elvira and Dam were both in attendance
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« Reply #129 on: March 27, 2024, 01:26:52 AM »
Terror at Collinwood Episode 79: London Bridge & A Country Road with Sharon Smyth Lentz and Barry Dodd

Beloved by Dark Shadows fans for her portrayal of the tragic child ghost Sarah Collins, sister of Barnabas Collins, Sharon Smyth Lentz played a very different the character in the 2014 short film On a Country Road, which was directed and produced by husband-and-wife filmmaking team, and longtime Dark Shadows fans, Barry and Karen Dodd. Sharon and Barry reunite in this episode for a fun discussion! The first half of the show is devoted to the making of On a Country Road and the second half of the episode focuses on Dark Shadows. Discussion topics also include: the Ragged Isle web series, the Night is Falling comic book, Village Con, Sharon’s memories of DS castmates, London Bridge Is Falling Down, DS fandom, and much more!

Audio version:
www.terroratcollinwood.com/episodes/terror-at-collinwood-episode-79-london-bridge-amp-a-country-road-with-sharon-smyth-lentz-and-barry-dodd
 
Video version:
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First of all, congratulations to you, Penny. It's richly deserved!!

I know Sam fairly well through Facebook, though we have yet to meet in person. Our paths first crossed many years ago when I attended the premiere of Elvira's Haunted Hills in California. You would think that a movie premiere would be this glamorous, red carpet event. Obviously not, since they let me in. But the movie was a lot of fun and Elvira and Dam were both in attendance

Thanks Uncle Roger! Sam is so much fun! It's great that you were able to attend the premiere of Elvira's Haunted Hills!
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« Reply #130 on: April 05, 2024, 03:41:57 AM »
Terror at Collinwood Episode 80: The Monsters of Dark Shadows with Jeff Owens and Steven Turek

Over the course of its five-year run, Dark Shadows featured several classic monster archetypes which were drawn from the pantheon of supernatural horror and folklore. Visiting Terror at Collinwood for an overview of these dark and shadowy creatures are writer and podcaster Jeff Owens, co-host of the Classic Horrors Club Podcast, and podcaster Steven Turek, host of the DieCast Movie Podcast! Longtime Monster Kids and fans of DS, Jeff and Steven join Penny to share their thoughts about the various monsters of DS!
 
AUDIO VERSION:
www.terroratcollinwood.com/episodes/terror-at-collinwood-episode-80-the-monsters-of-dark-shadows-with-jeff-owens-and-steven-turek
 
VIDEO VERSION:
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« Reply #131 on: April 13, 2024, 02:57:35 AM »
Terror at Collinwood Episode 81: Cross-Cultural and Cross-Generational Appeal of DS with Vikrum Mathur

Writer, film critic, and actor Vikrum Mathur visits the podcast to talk about his experiences as a fan of Dark Shadows and how the series connects with many people across cultures and generations. Vikrum recounts stories about his great grandmother’s love of DS and also talks about some of the creatures and folklore of India that would have worked well in the Dark Shadows setting. In addition, Vikrum reminisces about playing Dark Shadows with his friends, shares thoughts about some of his favorite characters from the original series, and discusses the various iterations of DS over the years. Join us for this fun discussion!
 
AUDIO VERSION:
www.terroratcollinwood.com/episodes/terror-at-collinwood-episode-81-cross-cultural-and-cross-generational-appeal-of-ds-with-vikrum-mathur
 
VIDEO VERSION:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdGTrh_CDCY
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« Reply #132 on: Yesterday at 09:04:57 PM »
Terror at Collinwood Episode 82: The DS Characters of Clarice Blackburn with Tweetie Jackie Blackburn

The very skilled (and sometimes underrated) actress Clarice Blackburn played Mrs. Sarah Johnson, Abigail Collins, and Minerva Trask on Dark Shadows and appeared as Mrs. Castle in Night of Dark Shadows. After DS, Clarice also went on to become a successful television writer. Visiting the podcast to discuss Clarice’s DS characters is Tweetie Jackie Blackburn, an administrator of several prominent DS Facebook groups, including the Dark Shadows Appreciation Society, Angelique’s Lair (Fans of Lara Parker), and Barnabas Collins and the Old House! Other topics of discussion include: Tweetie’s experiences meeting DS stars such as Lara Parker, Christopher Pennock, and Jerry Lacy, visiting Seaview Terrace aka “Collinwood”, the upcoming Dark Shadows Remembrance weekend, future hopes for DS, and more! Join us for a fun and spirited chat!
 
AUDIO VERSION:
 www.terroratcollinwood.com/episodes/terror-at-collinwood-episode-82-the-ds-characters-of-clarice-blackburn-with-tweetie-jackie-blackburn
 
VIDEO VERSION:
https://youtu.be/uf4R-aUceLM
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