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ProfStokes mentioned this in her writeup:
DS Weekend 2004

American Cinematheque at the Egyptian Theatre will be screening Daughters of Darkness (LES LEVRES ROUGES) [1971, in English] on Friday, August 27 at 7 p.m. during its 5th Annual Festival of Fantasy, Horror, Science Fiction & Anime.*  A discussion will follow with director Harry Kƒ¼mel.  The Egyptian Theatre is located at 6712 Hollywood Boulevard in Hollywood.  Admission is $9 and tickets are still available but predicted to sell out at the door.  There are several options for parking near the theatre.  John Karlen is NOT listed as a guest but I'd recommend ProfStokes' writeup to see what he had to say about the event.  Thanks, PS!

http://americancinematheque.com or http://egyptiantheatre.com and select the Film/Tour schedule.


*programs are subject to change without notice.  24-hour info: 323-466-FILM

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Re: "Daughters of Darkness" screening at the Egyptian Theatre
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2004, 09:01:35 PM »
If I lived in LA, I would be SO there.  DoD is a gorgeous film.  Karlen never looked better, and Delphine Seyrig turns in a glamorous, iconic performance as the Bloody Countess, dripping with sequins.

I hope they were able to get hold of the print from which the DVD release was prepared.  It's really quite stunning.  Forget Dario Argento--THIS is how to use color in a terror film!

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Re: "Daughters of Darkness" screening at the Egyptian Theatre
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2004, 09:25:09 PM »
I hope they were able to get hold of the print from which the DVD release was prepared.

Hopefully. The R rated US release was only 87 minutes and is far less interesting than the full 100 minute unrated European version that was used for the DVD. I wouldn't think US theaters are in any way limited to only being able to show the US version. That would be a crime! I would think it's only a matter of getting ahold of the longer print.

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It's really quite stunning.  Forget Dario Argento--THIS is how to use color in a terror film!

I totally agree. The look of DoD is wonderful.

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Re: "Daughters of Darkness" screening at the Egyptian Theatre
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2004, 09:33:40 PM »
The R rated US release was only 87 minutes and is far less interesting than the full 100 minute unrated European version that was used for the DVD. I wouldn't think US theaters are in any way limited to only being able to show the US version. That would be a crime! I would think it's only a matter of getting ahold of the longer print.

According to:americancinematheque it's 100 min. and from the [Belgian] Royal Film Archive.

Hmm, Karlen's name was not there a few days ago, but the page now says, "Discussion following with director Harry Kƒ¼mel and actor John Karlen."

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Re: "Daughters of Darkness" screening at the Egyptian Theatre
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2004, 09:44:58 PM »
Hmm, Karlen's name was not there a few days ago, but the page now says, "Discussion following with director Harry Kƒ¼mel and actor John Karlen."

Why am I not surprised?  I can't imagine the John Karlen who did the DVD voice-over allowing Harry Kumel to have the only say about the making of that film.

I hope they have a referee on hand to keep the fisticuffs in check.... ;)
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Re: "Daughters of Darkness" screening at the Egyptian Theatre
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2004, 07:45:22 AM »
According to: american cinematheque it's 100 min. and from the [Belgian] Royal Film Archive.

Major bummer-- it didn't arrive in time so there was an announcement right before the movie that that they'd be screening a somewhat faded print obtained from UCLA.  I can only describe it as cut, crappy, and washed out.   :-

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Discussion following with director Harry Kƒ¼mel and actor John Karlen.

They got that right.  :D



More tomorrow.  :)

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Re: "Daughters of Darkness" screening at the Egyptian Theatre
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2004, 07:56:53 AM »
I can only describe it as cut, crappy, and washed out.   :-

Definitely a major bummer.  :(  But an excellent reason to buy the DVD and to see the film the way it should be seen.  ;)

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We'll be looking forward.  :)

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Re: "Daughters of Darkness" screening at the Egyptian Theatre
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2004, 08:04:29 AM »
But an excellent reason to buy the DVD and to see the film the way it should be seen.  ;)

Exactly! ...

Daughters of Darkness
(Or go through the Amazon link on your favorite DS site and search for the above title in the DVD section.  ;))

I'm anxious to order it.   ;D

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Re: "Daughters of Darkness" screening at the Egyptian Theatre / Photo
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2004, 04:03:40 AM »
The good news is that nobody got punched!  ;D

I attended the Daughters of Darkness screening last night with my friend Tina.  After buying our tickets and soda, we spotted John Karlen in the lobby, but he was walking out.  I lingered for a moment to see if he would return, but then we went to find seats.  I was delighted to see Bette and Midnite, and we sat with them.

Tina and I saw Harry Kumel right away, shortly after we sat down. In fact, he sat right in front of Tina in the seat marked ¢â‚¬ËœSimone Simon'.  (The chair in front of me was labeled ¢â‚¬ËœMarlene Dietrich'.)  Remembering what John Karlen had said about him, we gave the director the evil eye at first.  But when he spoke, he actually seemed like a very personable guy.  He was able to laugh at himself and at the movie.  When he was called forward just before the film started in order to say a few words, he mentioned that the movie was rather funny and chuckled to himself about it.  In spite of my earlier prejudice, I found myself liking him.  The moderator of the evening's discussion announced that, unfortunately, the full-length restored print of the film had not arrived from Belgium in time, so we would be watching the edited, American print from the UCLA archives.  I was disappointed after reading all the hype on the message board, and I know Midnite was also very frustrated.

I had never seen Daughters of Darkness before.  I enjoyed it.  The print that we watched in the theater was, unfortunately, very scratched and faded. :(  However, the story itself was interesting.  It begins with a honeymooning couple, Stefan (John Karlen) and Valerie, (Daniele Ouimet) traveling by train, ostensibly to meet Stefan's mother.  The train breaks down and the couple ends up staying at a deserted Belgian hotel.  They plan to stay for just one night, but when the Countess Elizabeth Bathory (Delphine Seyrig) and her companion, Ilona, (Andrea Rau) arrive, plans change.  The countess is fascinated by Valerie, much to Ilona's annoyance, and she sets out to get to know the couple better.  Meanwhile, a series of murders are occurring in nearby Bruges; young girls are being found with their throats torn open, and not a drop of blood in sight.  Gradually, as Stefan's true, beastly nature is revealed, Elizabeth uses the opportunity to begin her seduction of Valerie¢â‚¬¦

Kumel was right; the film is rather humorous.  There's a lot of ironic dialogue.  Delphine Seyrig is probably the best thing about Daughters of Darkness; she relishes her part completely.  I wasn't prepared for John Karlen's character to be such a creep.  It was quite a shift to see Willie dealing out the beatings for a change.  I felt that the isolation of the hotel added to the suspense and the apprehension about what the vampires would do next.  Overall, it was a better movie than I expected.

After the film ended, Harry Kumel and John Karlen took their seats onstage with the moderator.  Kumel said a few words about how his movie had been cut to satisfy "puritanical America" and advised us to see the DVD.  He was asked where he had gotten the idea for Daughters of Darkness.  Kumel explained that an earlier film of his had done well but that he'd been advised to make something "more commercial."  (eg--with more sex, violence, blood and gore.)  "By chance, I had picked up a book about Countess Elizabeth Bathory.  I was fascinated by the story and wanted to make a film based on it, but there was no money for something so elaborate.  Then I suggested, ¢â‚¬ËœWhat if this woman was still alive and out in the world?'  Then we could set it in modern times."  Hence, the premise for Daughters of Darkness was born.  Next, Kumel needed to find a star.  "Delphine Seyrig was the most chic actress in France.  I showed her the script.  She liked it.  She wanted to get started right away."

The moderator addressed Karlen.  "You've had a long career in television, most notably on the vampire soap Dark Shadows--there are a few fans of that in the audience.  Were you chosen for this movie because of your work on that show?"  John said that the movie casting was not related to his part on DS, and then went on to share some of his memories of making the movie.  "I remember getting off the plane and meeting Harry at the airport," Karlen reminisced.  "We went out for drinks and then I fell asleep. Harry had to wake me up so that we could go and meet Delphine.  We had dinner together.  I can still remember her ordering the food: scallops, white wine¢â‚¬¦" he listed various dishes.  "The next morning, we had a wonderful breakfast at the hotel.  Then, on the way to Paris, we stopped and had a picnic lunch by the side of the road.  We finally arrived at Paris and Delphine went to Alexandre's to get her hair done. I jumped out of the car right away and stared at everything.  I'd never been to Paris before."

The mention of the hairdresser inspired Kumel to tell a story.  "Delphine had red hair, but I had envisioned Countess Bathory as a blonde.  I wanted a 1930's style for her, to give her a modern but timeless look.  So we took her to Alexandre, who was the Michelangelo of hair styling.  He had to agree to see you, and he agreed to work on Delphine.  I told him I wanted her blonde, platinum blonde, and he set to work dying her hair.  She started out as a redhead so to go to platinum blonde, she had to pass through green¢â‚¬¦Alexandre told me, ¢â‚¬ËœGo to the Tuileries and look at the paintings until I'm done.'  When I came back, Delphine was a blonde and he had styled her hair, but it wasn't exactly what I had in mind.  Something must have shown on my face because Alexandre looked at me and said, ¢â‚¬ËœNo good, eh?  Let me try again.'  So he put Delphine under the sink again to fix her hair.  And this wasn't just mise en place, he had to use the hot iron.  The things these actors have to endure for their art!  It took about three tries, but finally her hair was perfect.  I saw a lot of Monets that day."   

As a contrast, Kumel talked about Paul Esser, the actor who played Pierre, the concierge who recognizes Countess Bathory from her stay at the hotel 40 years earlier.  "I wanted him to put some gray in his hair to make him look older, but he didn't want to do it.  ¢â‚¬ËœNo, no,' he said.  ¢â‚¬ËœI'll act gray.'  And he did!  He did a magnificent job in this film, and he didn't speak a word of English at the time."     

Next Kumel talked about the locations.  "We actually used two locations for this.  The exteriors were a hotel in Brussels and the interior was a hotel in Osten (the actual setting of the movie)."  They actually had gone to film during the hotel's off-season, so the deserted look to the hotel and streets was accurate.  "There were just a few people on the streets when we filmed outside the hotel.  But it worked.  The audience doesn't care about what goes on the background; they focus on the main actors.  Some directors try to make their films seem realistic. They try to get every detail down perfectly, but that doesn't really work.  The famous director David Lee said that ¢â‚¬ËœFilm is like a fairy tale.  Anyone who tries to incorporate too much reality sooner or later falls flat on his face.'  So I tried to make a film that was like a fantasy."

The moderator turned to John Karlen and asked him about a particular scene in the movie in which his character is almost buried alive, but Karlen remained fixated on food.  "All I can remember are the ham sandwiches and all the delicious breads and rolls we got to eat," he claimed.

The moderator turned to the audience for questions, for which there was only time for one.  A man in the audience asked Kumel to give us an idea of what the deleted footage showed.  "You really should get the DVD to find out," the director encouraged.  Some of the more overt lesbian-themed scenes were cut down.  "When Ilona tries to leave the Countess and Elizabeth says to her, ¢â‚¬ËœYou would never leave me.  Without me, you'd have no life.'  Ilona replies, ¢â‚¬ËœYou call this a life?'  But that last line was cut in this version.  There's still enough left in the movie that you can get an idea of what's going on but it's very subtle¢â‚¬¦Subtle¢â‚¬¦" he laughed.  "That's like saying Michael Moore is subtle.  No, no, I'm not comparing myself to him." The scene where the medics are carrying a corpse out of the hotel was also longer and more violent.  "Stefan sees the corpse and goes berserk. His wife tries to restrain him, but he hits her and throws her back against the side of the building.  But in America, the rules are so strict.  You can't even have a man wearing Speedos in a movie. They all have to wear those awful trunks."

Kumel also complained that the vivid and contrasting colors in his original print had been washed out in the American version.  "Americans like to equalize their colors.  You can't see how some colors are more subtle than others.  It's a little thing but the little things are important.  Look at the famous paintings of the world.  What are the subjects?  People writing letters.  People pouring milk.  There's nothing remarkable about that.  But it's the little things that are so important!  The unimportant things make all the difference.  So beware of ¢â‚¬Ëœreally important documentaries' that claim to have a lot to say." (zing!)  He chuckled.

Kumel also made a reference to some of the comedy included in the movie.  "The scene where the countess is in the car saying, Go faster.  Faster!' was almost a joke because the film is paced so slowly.  But we didn't want it to go any faster.  We had to stretch it out as it was because it was such an awful script."  Both he and Karlen snickered about that.

Karlen went on to say a few words about Kumel.  "Harry was a great director. He always told us exactly what to do, where to go, and let us know what he expected from us.  He was always on top of things."

The discussion had lasted longer than it should have, so the moderator rushed to clear the theater.  Karlen had posed for just a couple of pictures before leaving.  I had hoped to see him in the lobby, but by the time we got there, he had already gone.  Leaving the building, I saw a couple of my fellow Shadows in the Sun club members and talked with them for a bit before going next door to the Pig & Whistle.  It was a very nice evening, all in all.  :)

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Re: "Daughters of Darkness" screening at the Egyptian Theatre / Photo
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2004, 04:50:06 AM »
A man in the audience asked Kumel to give us an idea of what the deleted footage showed.  "You really should get the DVD to find out," the director encouraged.  Some of the more overt lesbian-themed scenes were cut down.  "When Ilona tries to leave the Countess and Elizabeth says to her, ¢â‚¬ËœYou would never leave me.  Without me, you'd have no life.'  Ilona replies, ¢â‚¬ËœYou call this a life?'  But that last line was cut in this version.  There's still enough left in the movie that you can get an idea of what's going on but it's very subtle¢â‚¬¦Subtle¢â‚¬¦" he laughed.  "That's like saying Michael Moore is subtle.  No, no, I'm not comparing myself to him." The scene where the medics are carrying a corpse out of the hotel was also longer and more violent.  "Stefan sees the corpse and goes berserk. His wife tries to restrain him, but he hits her and throws her back against the side of the building.  But in America, the rules are so strict.  You can't even have a man wearing Speedos in a movie. They all have to wear those awful trunks."

Um, Karlen certainly "wears" a lot less than Speedos in the complete version of the film.  :D  In fact, all the nudity is far more explicit - if you're into that sort of thing. 

To get a better idea about the film, people might want to check out this topic from 2002, starting with this post:

I had no idea it was hard to come by.
I have a nephew-in-law who used to work for a store that specialised in laser-discs and then DVDs.

I e-mailed him in Manhattan at 9am with my 'unusual' request   ("Aunt Rainey, did you say a LESBIAN/VAMPIRE flick   :o  ??!!) and the courier was at my house by noon with the...object....in his hand.  [lghy]

I'll have to remember to thank him again!!

Rainey

Since posting that the DVD (originally released by Anchor Bay back in 1998) was hard to find, I've noticed that DoD was reissued in 2003 by Blue Underground with all new packaging. I don't know if it's a part of the new version, but the Italian poster was included in the original release:


(Also, in case anyone is interested, a friend who belongs has told me that the Columbia House DVD Club offers a lot better deals now than they did two years ago.)

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« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2004, 06:36:32 AM »
Once again, Prof, your memory astounds me!  Aside from the opportunity to see the film (bad print or not), we certainly don't miss out on any of the information with you around!  :)
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« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2004, 07:33:21 AM »
The good news is that nobody got punched!  ;D

LOL  Fabulous writeup, as always.  It was great seeing you!

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Remembering what John Karlen had said about him, we gave the director the evil eye at first.

All that was apparent last night was a mutual respect.  Go figure.

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But when he spoke, he actually seemed like a very personable guy.  He was able to laugh at himself and at the movie.  When he was called forward just before the film started in order to say a few words, he mentioned that the movie was rather funny and chuckled to himself about it.  In spite of my earlier prejudice, I found myself liking him.

I was very fascinated and could've listened to him talk about directorial technique for hours.  Like his movie, he was occasionally amusing and always entertaining.

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The moderator of the evening's discussion announced that, unfortunately, the full-length restored print of the film had not arrived from Belgium in time, so we would be watching the edited, American print from the UCLA archives.

The print damage was very apparent.  >:(

At least the sound was crisp and clear, including the wonderful musical score, all of which I assume was due to the extendable (!) wall panels running from floor to ceiling.  This was my first visit to the Egyptian since it had been remodeled/restored and I immediately missed its former ostentatiousness.  Thankfully, the painted ceiling with the huge sunburst over a blue background was still there, as was the large gilded scarab above our heads.  I'm hoping (fingers crossed) that the original interior walls are still present behind those acoustic panels.

The seats were just a little more than half full.  How disappointing, especially since the rep encouraged everyone to get tickets for the "Ren and Stimpy" event as soon as possible, even though it was more than a week away, because they were selling fast.  <sigh>

Before the screening, they showed the trailer for "Singing in the Rain" (due to an upcoming Debbie Reynolds tribute).  I would've much preferred seeing the DOD trailer, but that's me.

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He was asked where he had gotten the idea for Daughters of Darkness.  Kumel explained that an earlier film of his had done well but that he'd been advised to make something "more commercial."  (eg--with more sex, violence, blood and gore.)  "By chance, I had picked up a book about Countess Elizabeth Bathory.  I was fascinated by the story and wanted to make a film based on it, but there was no money for something so elaborate.  Then I suggested, ¢â‚¬ËœWhat if this woman was still alive and out in the world?'  Then we could set it in modern times."  Hence, the premise for Daughters of Darkness was born.  Next, Kumel needed to find a star.  "Delphine Seyrig was the most chic actress in France.  I showed her the script.  She liked it.  She wanted to get started right away."

Before the movie started, he asked the audience to not think too much, which I thought was a delightful request. He also promised horror with sex, gore, blood and violence included, to which the horror movie enthusiasts in the audience applauded.  (Eat your heart out, Hammer Studios.)  Afterwards, however, he called his movie "very absurd," and it was fascinating to hear that he apparently didn't think much of his treatment.  When he sent it to have the dialogue written he expected to be despised for it ("the greatest scandal ever seen!") yet the writers were more than willing to do it.  As if asking for more trouble, he next requested to have one of the greatest and most intelligent French actresses of all time star in it.  [She was in France at the time, having just finished filming a French musical (Peau d'ƒ¢ne) with director Jacques Demy.  Kumel said it was "not good, not good, because Deneuve was in it.  She's a very annoying actress."  Meow!]  Anyway, he was sure Seyrig would turn him down, perhaps even throw things.  But instead, her reply was (imitating her accent), "Dees is wonderful.  I want to play it."  Kumel told us, "So I was stuck with the film."

It was filmed in 3 to 4 weeks under what he called catastrophic conditions with "no day for night."  He said, "Poor John."  Karlen had looked in the mirror, he said, and told him, "Every night I look more like Dracula" to which Kumel replied, "This is not your part in the movie."

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The moderator addressed Karlen.  "You've had a long career in television, most notably on the vampire soap Dark Shadows--there are a few fans of that in the audience.  Were you chosen for this movie because of your work on that show?"  John said that the movie casting was not related to his part on DS, and then went on to share some of his memories of making the movie.  "I remember getting off the plane and meeting Harry at the airport," Karlen reminisced.  "We went out for drinks and then I fell asleep. Harry had to wake me up so that we could go and meet Delphine.  We had dinner together.  I can still remember her ordering the food: scallops, white wine¢â‚¬¦" he listed various dishes.  "The next morning, we had a wonderful breakfast at the hotel.  Then, on the way to Paris, we stopped and had a picnic lunch by the side of the road.  We finally arrived at Paris and Delphine went to Alexandre's to get her hair done. I jumped out of the car right away and stared at everything.  I'd never been to Paris before."

Food.  And the locations.  It was no wonder that John wasn't speaking nearly as often as Kumel--he seemed to only remember the food and the beautiful sights.  And despite the conditions under which the movie was made, Karlen said the experience was very enjoyable.  He also mentioned that his wife was present during filming.  :-X

Kumel had only good things to say about his DOD cast.  About Seyrig, he said she had an extraordinary apartment and was a very generous woman and great actress.  However, I don't recall hearing any praise for Ouimet.  Did I miss it?

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"Delphine had red hair, but I had envisioned Countess Bathory as a blonde.  I wanted a 1930's style for her, to give her a modern but timeless look.  So we took her to Alexandre, who was the Michelangelo of hair styling.  He had to agree to see you, and he agreed to work on Delphine.  I told him I wanted her blonde, platinum blonde, and he set to work dying her hair.  She started out as a redhead so to go to platinum blonde, she had to pass through green¢â‚¬¦Alexandre told me, ¢â‚¬ËœGo to the Tuileries and look at the paintings until I'm done.'  When I came back, Delphine was a blonde and he had styled her hair, but it wasn't exactly what I had in mind.  Something must have shown on my face because Alexandre looked at me and said, ¢â‚¬ËœNo good, eh?  Let me try again.'  So he put Delphine under the sink again to fix her hair.  And this wasn't just mise en place, he had to use the hot iron.  The things these actors have to endure for their art!  It took about three tries, but finally her hair was perfect.  I saw a lot of Monets that day."

Kumel said she wanted to do that.  I can't help but wonder why her hair didn't fall out.  I guess the guy really was the Michelangelo of hairdressers.

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Next Kumel talked about the locations.  "We actually used two locations for this.  The exteriors were a hotel in Brussels and the interior was a hotel in Osten (the actual setting of the movie)."  They actually had gone to film during the hotel's off-season, so the deserted look to the hotel and streets was accurate.  "There were just a few people on the streets when we filmed outside the hotel.  But it worked.  The audience doesn't care about what goes on the background; they focus on the main actors.

The exterior of the hotel was a composite.  He said he wanted it to look like a beautiful painting, and what we see is actually a background.  I believe he said the location that provided the lavish interiors, and in which the cast slept, was the Hotel Astoria in Brussels.  "It was deserted on purpose," he explained, "because I had no money.  I was very young," he added apologetically.  "I thought I could do anything.  I was arrogant."  Actually, I thought he did extremely well despite the limitations of the solitary location and the minimal cast.

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Some directors try to make their films seem realistic. They try to get every detail down perfectly, but that doesn't really work.  The famous director David Lee said that ¢â‚¬ËœFilm is like a fairy tale.  Anyone who tries to incorporate too much reality sooner or later falls flat on his face.'  So I tried to make a film that was like a fantasy."

The few references he made to paintings struck me because his work does seem like a painting sprung to life--okay, a disturbing painting, but a painting nonetheless.  One of these references was that he wanted the movie to resemble a series of paintings, and later, he explained that a painting is a useless thing.  "But it is not as serious as I'm telling you," he added.  He said he actually liked hearing the audience laugh, that he doesn't like to be serious.  He also said it's important to not make too much of the sexuality in the film.

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The moderator turned to John Karlen and asked him about a particular scene in the movie in which his character is almost buried alive, but Karlen remained fixated on food.  "All I can remember are the ham sandwiches and all the delicious breads and rolls we got to eat," he claimed.

He should hook up with Diana "I'd Rather Eat Than Act" Millay.  ;)

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The scene where the medics are carrying a corpse out of the hotel was also longer and more violent.  "Stefan sees the corpse and goes berserk. His wife tries to restrain him, but he hits her and throws her back against the side of the building.

He seemed to feel that scene was too important to be cut, calling it the beginning of the end for Stefan.  Another scene cut out completely has the Countess saying to the girl, "Oh certainly you're afraid, my little edelweiss."  He felt that was cut because it was seen as unimportant, but he said, "It's these very useless moments that are interesting."  He also mentioned that the orgasm druing the train ride, too, was cut for American audiences.

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But in America, the rules are so strict.  You can't even have a man wearing Speedos in a movie. They all have to wear those awful trunks."

LOL.  He asked, "Then why are they allowed in the Olympics?"

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Karlen went on to say a few words about Kumel.  "Harry was a great director. He always told us exactly what to do, where to go, and let us know what he expected from us.  He was always on top of things."

Also, Karlen:  "It wasn't so much that he told you what to do.  The sense of what things you needed to do was there."

Kumel had also said that the version we had seen, because of the cuts, was "not very good."

What followed was a screening of Kumel's "Malpertuis," which he also was going to introduce.  I would've loved to have seen it, but perhaps it will be shown at a future film festival.

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Re: "Daughters of Darkness" screening at the Egyptian Theatre / Photo
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2004, 08:16:48 AM »
Wow, Midnite, what a detailed report!  Thank you for filling in the gaps.  Your memory is better than mine. :D

Thankfully, the painted ceiling with the huge sunburst over a blue background was still there, as was the large gilded scarab above our heads.  I'm hoping (fingers crossed) that the original interior walls are still present behind those acoustic panels.

I spoke with Kathy Resch after the screening and she said that she was seated before all the sound panels were brought in.  The decorations are still there; they were just obscured.  :)

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Kumel said it was "not good, not good, because Deneuve was in it.  She's a very annoying actress."  Meow!] 

Though he did follow that statement by saying, "She's gotten better over the years."


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He also mentioned that his wife was present during filming.  :-X

Gee, I wonder what she thought of those shower scenes.


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He should hook up with Diana "I'd Rather Eat Than Act" Millay.  ;)

LOL!

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Another scene cut out completely has the Countess saying to the girl, "Oh certainly you're afraid, my little edelweiss."  He felt that was cut because it was seen as unimportant, but he said, "It's these very useless moments that are interesting." 

Yes, that was a significant comment because the girl, Valerie, was supposed to be from Switzerland, where edelweiss is the national flower.

Great to see you too!  :)

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Re: "Daughters of Darkness" screening at the Egyptian Theatre / Photo
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2004, 08:33:14 AM »
Thank you for filling in the gaps.  Your memory is better than mine. :D

Ha!  And you're very welcome.  :)

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I spoke with Kathy Resch after the screening and she said that she was seated before all the sound panels were brought in.  The decorations are still there; they were just obscured.  :)

Thank you for that!  You don't KNOW what a relief it is to me.

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Though he did follow that statement by saying, "She's gotten better over the years."

Heh, thanks!  :D

I love the poster, MB!

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Re: "Daughters of Darkness" screening at the Egyptian Theatre / Photo
« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2004, 09:22:14 AM »
-Do you mean DAVID LEAN, instead of DAVID LEE?..Hmmm

Did anyone stay for MALPERTUIS?

I was dying to check that out but couldn't make it...