At the Blue Whale - Naughty Boys

[Afan]

Loved the conversation between Quentin and Aristede at the Blue Whale.  When Quentin said to A something about being unbelievable and A said , "The two of us sitting here discussing what we are discussing --don't you think that is unbelievable?  Just the dry irony of A's reply made me laugh aloud.  That two intelligent men could discuss werewolves and magic hands in a tavern and be completely serious struck me as very amusing. Also A asked Q if that was a gun he was hiding beneath his coat!  HaHa
Afan

[jennifer]

Where were the two intelligent men? LOL

jennifer

[Carol]

[hello]Also A asked Q if that was a gun he was hiding beneath his coat!  HaHa
Afan

Didn't Mae West use the line~

"Is that a gun you're hiding or are you just happy to see me?"  Maybe the writers used innuendo again to explain the orientation of Aristede. Since women and children were watching the show back then, it went over everyone's head.

[Bob_the_Bartender]

Hey gang,

Your analysis of the conversation between Aristede and Quentin in the Blue Whale almost brings new meaning to the Steely Dan song, "With A Gun":

"I could be wrong but I have seen your face before.
You were the man that I saw running from his door.
You owed him money, but you gave him something
more.
With a gun!  With a gun!
You will be what you are just the same.

You were the founders of the clinic in the hill.
Until he caught you with your fingers in the till.
He slapped your hand, so you settled up your bill.
With a gun!  With a gun!"
Did you pay the other man with the piece in your
hand, and leave him lying in the rain?"  

Bob the Bartender, who reminds everyone: If you stay out of bars, you stay out of trouble (What am I saying!?)
 
       
 

[jennifer]

Hey gang,



Bob the Bartender, who reminds everyone: If you stay out of bars, you stay out of trouble (What am I saying!?)
 
       
 

tell that to David Wells heehee!

jennifer

[dom]

I don't think Aristede is gay, considering the way he was turned-on by Angelique. I do think that Petofi is an abusive father figure for Aristede, who obviously grew up being abused and is comfortable (for lack of a better word) being in that subserviant role. I know at some point we learn that Aristede can hardly bare to think of a life without Petofi, telling him how to live it.

dom

[Raineypark]

I don't think Aristede is gay, considering the way he was turned-on by Angelique. I do think that Petofi is an abusive father figure for Aristede, who obviously grew up being abused and is comfortable (for lack of a better word) being in that subserviant role. I know at some point we learn that Aristede can hardly bare to think of a life without Petofi, telling him how to live it.dom

What a very astute observation, Dom.

I was thinking that SOMEONE on that show finds that particular kind of relationship intriguing.....it's the exact same relationship Willie has with Barnabas....and (from their point of view) it was missing in this plot line and needed to be re-introduced.

rainey....who very much misses Willie.....but could do without that relationship

[onyx_treasure]

    I agree that Aristede is not gay but Petofi probably is.  Aristede is a kept boy and to keep his nice clothes and elegant lifestyle he will do whatever it takes.  

[Gothick]

I see Count Petofi as sexually omnivorous:  women, young men, unicorns ...

It would seem that Violet Welles, who created the good Count, was very well read in the more obscure byways of 1890s literature.  The Count always struck me as a cross between Oscar Wilde and Aleister Crowley.  I do love the stories about Lord Kitchener, the deliciously rolled-out epigrams, the homburg and cigars.  His fondness for Mozart always struck me as a tip of the hat to Christopher Isherwood's Mr. Norris.

Yes, DS could be surprisingly literate for a soap opera that was widely regarded as just the latest teeny-bopper craze...

Steve

[onyx_treasure]

I see Count Petofi as sexually omnivorous:  women, young men, unicorns ...
Steve

    I just loved the way you phrased that.  

[Carol]

I see Count Petofi as sexually omnivorous:  women, young men, unicorns ...

Hey, whatever floats your boat. And, Aristede went along for the ride.

[Afan]

In answer to Jennifer's question, "where were the intelligent men?", while neither A or Q were the sharpest knives (pun intended) in the drawer, they were not idiots.  It just struck me as funny as A said that they could have a conversation about such obviously way out subjects as werewolves and magic hands with straight faces!
Afan

[jennifer]

In answer to Jennifer's question, "where were the intelligent men?", while neither A or Q were the sharpest knives (pun intended) in the drawer, they were not idiots.  It just struck me as funny as A said that they could have a conversation about such obviously way out subjects as werewolves and magic hands with straight faces!
Afan

maybe not quentin but i think of aristede as one of
those low level idiot criminals who could be featured in an Ann Rule book! LOL
and the fact they were talking like that in a public place
Well ....but hey i don't hold it against men if they are dim( just if they are hoods like are friend aristede!)good observation though!

jennifer

[Connie]

Well ....but hey i don't hold it against men if they are dim...

LOL.  And why is that?  Because you pretty much expect it?  (I know I do).

Hiding out,
-CLC

[Philippe Cordier]

I see Count Petofi as sexually omnivorous:  women, young men, unicorns ...

In my view, both may be "sexually omnivorous" ... but Aristede is the one who displays stereotypical "gay" mannerisms.

I thought Stroika was doing a sendup of Gloria Swanson when his hands flew to his face when Petofi threatened to spoil that "beautiful face you love so much" (or words to that effect). His subservience to Petofi seems to have sexual undertones to me, if we want to apply real-life psychology to the characters.