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Discuss - Ep #0955
« on: August 01, 2015, 05:52:55 PM »
Robservations #955

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Re: Discuss - Ep #0955

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Re: Discuss - Ep #0955
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2015, 02:05:13 PM »
VO, who?  So, Barnabas summons Maggie on the basis of a previous biting from 1967?  Not the music box, please not the... and it's not.  A ring.  Probably another antique he found in the Old House, that doesn't really belong to him.

Ang and Q reunite at the Old House.  No mention of their delayed nuptials pact, but then Quentin never agreed to that in 1897, Ang just let him off the hook.  At this point, Ang still seems reasonable and mature, and unobsessed.  Perfunctory kiss.  Sky happens by, wanting to put the human torch days behind him (it was still the same day though).  No success.

Angelique is already getting jealous of Maggie over Barnabas, when she was deliriously happy with Sky hours earlier.  She adjusts well, or easily anyway, to new situations...   We learn that Q-and-Ang in 1897 was just a "device" to make Barnabas jealous, of all things.  Man, did she read that situation wrong...  She gets right back into the swing of things, casting an impetuously pointless Q-Maggie love spell.  Once again, she thinks all she has to do is a little nudging behind the scenes, and Ang-with-Barnabas will occur.  End.

I guess this isn't at all for the supernaturally-interested viewers, since it's so unsurprising (except for its gall, and how soon it happens) it's laughable.  It was for the soap romance fans, seeing those two paired up, and how they got there might be fairly irrelevant.
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Re: Discuss - Ep #0955
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2015, 07:43:11 PM »
KLS does the voiceover.

Angelique wraps one of Sky's neckties around the statuette. Once he's unconscious, she tells him that she really did love him after all.

Maybe Barn did send a bat signal to Maggie. If so, he seems to have done it in the gentlest way possible. But yeah, that ring. Oh boy. They hug, but finally his bloodlust gets the better of him. He is about to sink his fangs into her throat when Quentin shouts, Excuse me! (Quentin is wearing his gray suit, an appropriately old-fashioned number with high-cut lapels.) Maggie steps away as Barnabas recovers himself. Quentin says, I have to talk to you right. Maggie, please excuse us. Barnabas suggests Maggie go inside and promises to talk to her tomorrow. After she leaves, Quentin says, I don’t need to ask what would have happened if I hadn’t arrived when I did. Ashamed, Barnabas examines his feet as he agrees. Quentin reminds Barnabas, You must stay away from Maggie. You know you can only hurt her in your present state. Angry with himself, Barnabas says, I know that! I can’t help myself! Quentin points, The sun will be up any minute. Julia is having trouble locating Willie Loomis, so I will guard you during the day until she comes back with Willie. So saying, he practically frog-marches Barnabas to the Old House.

Maggie admires the ring, which she wears on her left hand.

Quentin keeps his word and is trying to get comfortable in a chair at the Old House when Angelique arrives. He gives her a peck on the cheek. They size each other up and note that neither has aged. Quentin reminds her that she said they would see each other again. I was hoping to see Barnabas, Angelique replies, but I am obviously too late. What do you mean? Quentin asks, ready to protect Barnabas. Angelique quickly says, I saw him earlier. I know what happened to him. Barnabas came to the island and told me that my husband had betrayed him to Jeb. Quentin is shocked, but Angelique--her voice still laced with disgust--continues, Sky was one of the Leviathans before I met him. I left him tonight, and I am never going back to him. Quentin is genuinely sorry and offers to help. There’s nothing you can do, she says sadly and actually admits, My past interest in you was just a device to upset Barnabas. I was very good at devices. I always have been. Perhaps, in spite of my feelings for Sky, Barnabas has always been my one true love. I will wait until the evening to see him. Quentin notes how tired she looks, and tells her to go upstairs and rest. She agrees: I am glad to be back in this house, which I once knew so well. For a while, I was very happy here. This is where it all started. She decides to sleep in Josette’s room. I suppose the fact that she was Josette's maid still stings.

Sky arrives. Angelique comes downstairs. Sky asks to see his wife alone, and Quentin goes to the basement to warn Barnabas that he has guests.

Sky offers Angelique a deal: Nick is okay with her going back to Sky IF and ONLY IF she becomes a Leviathan. She refuses. I refuse to have any part of your side or of Nicholas Blair, Angelique replies flatly. I will come back to you only if you become your own man again. It’s too late for that, Sky says without any apparent regret. That proves you don’t really love me, Angelique replies, so we have nothing more to say to each other: Go and tell _your master_ that my answer is no. Sky grabs her shoulders and turns her to face him, but she shouts at him to leave. He agrees but promises, I’ll be waiting for you. He leaves the house, and Angelique watches through the window with great sadness as he walks away. Barnabas enters the room silently, waiting till she notices him. When she does, she runs into his arms, and he returns her embrace.

Though the again unhuman Barnabas can take neither food nor drink, Angelique can, and he brings her a small, restorative cordial. Quentin has been very kind and understanding, she says, then admits, You were right about everything. I have been a complete fool. Graciously Barnabas says, You don’t have to talk about it. She admits to telling Sky about everything. Very kindly Barnabas says, You had no way of knowing. I realize you didn’t do it to hurt me deliberately. I did the first time, Angelique says quietly. That was a long time ago, Barnabas says magnanimously. It is best forgotten. It’s all so ironic, Angelique comments, how it has happened again in just the same way. I think it must mean something for us. Barnabas ventures, I hope we can become closer friends than before. But Angelique has higher hopes. I want to start again from the beginning, she says. This upsets Barnabas, but Angelique pursues her topic: We have so much in common, both being outcasts. Neither of us has a chance for a normal life. When Nicholas Blair came back into the picture-- Barnabas is horrified to hear  that Nicholas has returned. Angelique says, When I saw him with Sky, I knew you had told me the truth. But she feels the first twinges of jealousy when Barnabas immediately decides, I must warn Maggie. She was involved with Nicholas once--it was almost the end of her. Please wait for me--we have much to talk about. But even in her servant days, Angelique was never good at obeying orders; she follows the oblivious Barnabas a moment after he leaves.

The camera pans up Maggie’s legs as once again Barnabas meets her on the terrace. She is shocked that Nicholas has returned. Barnabas warns her, Jeb will tell Nicholas that you are a Leviathan, and Nicholas will want to see you. Don’t worry, Maggie says, I think I know what to do. Be very, very careful with Nicholas, Barnabas warns her. He is dangerous, and if he finds out you aren’t on his side, your life will be in jeopardy. He pulls her into his arms, adding, I wouldn’t want that to happen--you mean far too much to me. As they embrace, Angelique watches from behind the gate, then turns away.

At 11:20, Quentin is in the drawing room with Maggie. Stay away from Barnabas, he warns her. The Leviathans are out to kill him, and they may do it through you. I would never hurt Barnabas! Maggie insists. The Leviathans may use you to trap him, Quentin explains.

Wrapped up in her leopard-skin coat, Angelique is just outside the drawing-room windows. You asked me if there was any way that you could help me, Quentin, she says to herself. Well, there is--only you’ll never be aware of it. A green light suddenly washes over her face as she goes into spell-casting mode. I am what I was and what I shall always be, she says. I summon a flame to transmit the power of love!

Meanwhile, Maggie and Quentin’s discussion has somewhat degenerated and is not far short of an argument. Maggie declares emphatically, I will continue to see Barnabas--and there’s nothing you can do to stop me. Suddenly Maggie notices that spontaneous combustion has occurred in the fireplace. Quentin doesn’t know how it happened either, and they suddenly gaze at each other with new eyes.

Meanwhile, Angelique tells them, You will look into the flame as though it were a mirror to the future--your future of love. There is no turning back now. You are prisoners of your love for each other. After gazing into her eyes a moment longer, Quentin takes Maggie in his arms and kisses her passionately. Maggie uses her last bit of free will to ask, What is happening? I don’t know, Quentin replies. She takes off Josette’s ring and without a second thought throws it into the fireplace. As she and Quentin kiss again, we see a black pitchfork on the back of Angelique’s hand. She tells the oblivious Quentin and Maggie, This is the sign that binds you, the sign of your love for each other. Whenever it appears, no power on earth can keep you apart.

Maggie and Quentin slowly move apart and stare into each other’s eyes some more. This is crazy! Maggie exclaims. I have the feeling it is right, Quentin says. A moment later Maggie says, Yes, but it can’t be! Then Quentin notices the black pitchfork on the back of his hand, and Maggie notices the identical mark on her hand a moment later.....

SOOOOO.... Why should Maggie be horrified that Nicholas has returned? When he was dragged back to hell in 1968, all she remembered was that they had been close, but then he left--but not that he was actually you-know-who.

And the pitchforks--really, writers? Has Angelique really learned nothing new during her time in hell?

Well, MT, I guess I'm not a soap romance fan, not then or now.


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Re: Discuss - Ep #0955
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2015, 08:57:38 PM »
If anything, Maggie would remember that Nicholas led her on, promised to marry her and abruptly left Collinsport without the courtesy of saying goodbye. Part of Nicholas' plan may have been to reconnect with Maggie. The story really needs a scene between the two of them but we never get it. I don't think that Maggie ever refers to Nicholas again and he never mentions her.

Angelique's scenes at the old house with Barnabas and, to a lesser extent, Quentin are some of my favorite moments from the series. We seldom see Angelique so reflective and honest about her feelings and her use of devices.

Barnabas is very gentle with her, resisting the desire to say I told you so. She is genuinely saddened to see that he has become a vampire again, indirectly but not intentionally because of her. And he seems to genuinely care for her feelings and she does for him. To me, this shows that Barnabas and Angelique have evolved as characters, capable of feelings that neither one had the depth to express before. I'm sorry that we didn't get to see more scenes like this because it showed that both characters were capable of a deeper understanding of each other. I find these scene much more plausible than their similar scene in 1840.
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Re: Discuss - Ep #0955
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2015, 02:17:49 PM »
Right on, Uncle Roger. It is odd, isn't it, that Nicholas doesn't show the slightest interest in Maggie this time around. Maybe his, um, superiors warned him against making that particular mistake again.

I am enjoying how loyal Quentin is to Barnabas and Angelique's honesty too.